QT for mandarine?

Lynnmw1208 · 03/28/2011, 11:27 AM

I know mandarins tend to be more disease resistant than other fish but my question is, how can you properly QT them when they require loads of pods? Would it be better to just add them to the display tank right away?

Sk8r · 03/28/2011, 11:31 AM

Most frankly do that. But be VERY careful about source: see my thread about False Sense of Security, where we talk about dealers. The alternative is a cycled qt with cheato moss.

Lynnmw1208 · 03/28/2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sk8r

Most frankly do that. But be VERY careful about source: see my thread about False Sense of Security, where we talk about dealers. The alternative is a cycled qt with cheato moss.

heh actually it was your thread that made me think about this. The mandarin I am looking at has been in the fish store for 2 weeks. I'm not sure where they get their fish from, but it is on the system that is completely coral and live rock and not connected to the other fish systems. I'm assuming they did this so they would have pods going into this tank.

AmberL · 03/28/2011, 11:55 AM

My LFS said that you can't QT mandarines.

DoubleM 10 · 03/28/2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AmberL

My LFS said that you can't QT mandarines.

you can qt anything.

its just what you use to treat for preventing flukes and paracites.

i would say yes. just based off "what if"

that alone should have everyone QT thier fish in my opinion.

i dont think manderines do well with copper. other treat ments would be ok IMO. i could be wrong

jeff@zina.com · 03/28/2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynnmw1208

how can you properly QT them when they require loads of pods?

You buy one that's been weaned onto frozen food.

Seriously. Unless you can provide pods in the quarantine tank. And if you have a captive-bred variety available that takes commercial food, get it instead of a wild one that needs pods.

Jeff

Palting · 03/28/2011, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8r

Most frankly do that. But be VERY careful about source: see my thread about False Sense of Security, where we talk about dealers. The alternative is a cycled qt with cheato moss.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynnmw1208

heh actually it was your thread that made me think about this. The mandarin I am looking at has been in the fish store for 2 weeks. I'm not sure where they get their fish from, but it is on the system that is completely coral and live rock and not connected to the other fish systems. I'm assuming they did this so they would have pods going into this tank.

I QT everything, and I QT AND treat all fish. With only one exception: my last mandarin, Synchiropus splendiferous. After much debating annd researching, despite my swearing to all to QT and treat everything, I figured there just wasn't any good way to QT and treat a mandarin for 4-6 weeks. Their relative resistance to my most hated of all diseases, Ich, and my trust in this particular lfs, made it easier for me to just fresh water dip and drop in the DT.

Sk8r · 03/28/2011, 04:02 PM

The problem is, you can qt them with a cycled tank and preferably a large fuge, BUT---if you ever have to treat them, the treatments will kill the only thing they eat, copper kills THEM, and they don't do well with hypo either.
Nature gave them a major slime coat, because they are sandbed creatures that may frequently come in contact with the parasite: as long as nothing [such as low alkalinity] damages their coat, they'll generally not be the fish with ich.

Angel*Fish · 03/29/2011, 08:37 PM

I can't exactly tell from your other thread, but it looks like you started cycling your tank on March 12? And from your thread in the fish forum you added the mandarin today? Do I have that right? Maybe I missed something-

Edit: It looked like the 12th but later I see you said the cycle started March 1.

03/28/2011, 11:27 AM	#1
Lynnmw1208 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brunswick, Ohio Posts: 3,306	QT for mandarine? I know mandarins tend to be more disease resistant than other fish but my question is, how can you properly QT them when they require loads of pods? Would it be better to just add them to the display tank right away? __________________ equipment: Eshopps psk-200 skimmer, Mag 12 pump, 30gal sump, 2x 300w Finnex heaters, glass-holes 1500gph overflow kit with 3/4" return kits, 72" 8x36w t-5 AquaticLife light, 66lbs of LR, 150lbs of tropic eden reeflakes, 2 Koralia Evo 1400, JBJ ATO, BRS dual GFO/carbon reactors, Hydor smartwave Current Tank Info: 125gallon

03/28/2011, 11:31 AM	#2
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Most frankly do that. But be VERY careful about source: see my thread about False Sense of Security, where we talk about dealers. The alternative is a cycled qt with cheato moss. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/28/2011, 11:55 AM	#4
AmberL Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 205	My LFS said that you can't QT mandarines. __________________ ~Amber Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef tank; 2 clowns; Midas blenny; diamond goby; CUC; sand sifting star fish; torch; green star polyps; green plate; brain coral; finger leather; cleaner shrimp; porcelain crab; daisy coral

03/28/2011, 04:02 PM	#8
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	The problem is, you can qt them with a cycled tank and preferably a large fuge, BUT---if you ever have to treat them, the treatments will kill the only thing they eat, copper kills THEM, and they don't do well with hypo either. Nature gave them a major slime coat, because they are sandbed creatures that may frequently come in contact with the parasite: as long as nothing [such as low alkalinity] damages their coat, they'll generally not be the fish with ich. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/29/2011, 08:37 PM	#9
Angel*Fish cats and large squashes Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Houston Posts: 5,951 Blog Entries: 1	I can't exactly tell from your other thread, but it looks like you started cycling your tank on March 12? And from your thread in the fish forum you added the mandarin today? Do I have that right? Maybe I missed something- Edit: It looked like the 12th but later I see you said the cycle started March 1. __________________ Marie So long, & thanks for all the fish! __________________________ Current Tank Info: Pairs: flame angels, cherub angels, Red Sea mimic blennies, yellow fin fairy wrasses, clowns, mandarins, blackcap basslets, shrimp gobies, damsels, dispar anthias, yellow clown gobies, threadfin cardinals --- Tanks: 100g reef, 2 x 30g refugiums Last edited by AngelFish; 03/29/2011 at 09:27 PM.*

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