(alright, here goes)Can I see pics of your CRUSHED CORAL tank,pleeeaaase???

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 06:59 PM

If there are any out there.Thinking of using #4 size 1" bed in next tank. Yes, you can try to talk me out of it if you like. I'm open.

Tropic Eden Reeflakes almost qualifies at 3mm, but found some beautiful stuff online at reefsand.com.

pretty pleeaase

hollister · 06/04/2011, 07:09 PM

Crushed coral would not be a good idea. Cant tell u how many people wish they didnt do that.

Its a nitrate nightmare and no CUC can cure it. With Sand u get more worms and u could use nass. snails and with proper water flow will convert ammonia to O2.

muttley000 · 06/04/2011, 07:30 PM

pmrossetti has been around the block a few times and I would guess he knows what he is up to here!

My tanks all have sand and I am of no help to you here

Can you tell us what your up to

jcw · 06/04/2011, 07:35 PM

Anything in particular you want to see? I have one set up for 6 months.
Too much coralline on the glass for pictures, though. Tommorrow is cleaning day.

albano · 06/04/2011, 07:37 PM

I have quite a few pics...from the 1970's & 80's

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 07:38 PM

up to wanting to see crushed coral tanks, that's all.
thinking it's easy to vacuum and keeps good oxygen levels throughout.

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcw

Anything in particular you want to see? I have one set up for 6 months.
Too much coralline on the glass for pictures, though. Tommorrow is cleaning day.

Just how the tank looks with the cc bed. I think I like the look of it, just would like to see some.
there's different grades/types as well.

Coralline is good.

sporto0 · 06/04/2011, 07:46 PM

i wish i could i post a pic of my crushed coral tank, so that you would think twice about trying it, i had the worse case of gha you could imagine before i swapped the substrate for sand. the mud that was at the bottom of the tank literally had me gagging & i vacuumed it once a week as good as i could, i would never have been able to reduce the nutrients & phosphates in that tank in a million years. but hey prove me wrong.

hollister · 06/04/2011, 07:46 PM

Well for good O2 saturation solid steady water flow is best as O2 is drawn from the surface. If you want lower ammonia levels then a aged SB with good water flow is better. CC will only create a nitrate nightmare....

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sporto0

i wish i could i post a pic of my crushed coral tank, so that you would think twice about trying it, i had the worse case of gha you could imagine before i swapped the substrate for sand. the mud that was at the bottom of the tank literally had me gagging & i vacuumed it once a week as good as i could, i would never have been able to reduce the nutrients & phosphates in that tank in a million years. but hey prove me wrong.

wow, sounds bad. how could it be that bad with vacuuming?

sporto0 · 06/04/2011, 07:59 PM

well of course there were corals i had to go around & it was a 55 so with all the live rock did not leave much room on either side or in front, trust me it was a nightmare! under the LR was putrid, detritus collects and works its way to the bottom, also there were some scary lookin bristle worms down there. i dont think cuc was able to penetrate enough to make a difference but like i said before prove me wrong.

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sporto0

well of course there were corals i had to go around & it was a 55 so with all the live rock did not leave much room on either side or in front, trust me it was a nightmare! under the LR was putrid, detritus collects and works its way to the bottom, also there were some scary lookin bristle worms down there. i dont think cuc was able to penetrate enough to make a difference but like i said before prove me wrong.

i think from what you described, the same would have occurred with sand.
stir a sandbed sometime and see what wafts up.

sporto0 · 06/04/2011, 08:47 PM

found a pic for you, before & after. also upgraded to 90g

sporto0 · 06/04/2011, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrossetti

i think from what you described, the same would have occurred with sand.
stir a sandbed sometime and see what wafts up.

my fowlr is sand, no way near as severe when i stir the sand!

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sporto0

my fowlr is sand, no way near as severe when i stir the sand!

thanks for the pics, you make a good case. nice tank.

mgraf · 06/04/2011, 10:50 PM

I have a crushed coral and sand mix in a 65 with a 20 gallon sump. I wanted some larger pieces so my pistol could build his caves. I add more sand now and again, I also vacum where I can when I do a bi-monthly water change. I also have an algae scrubber incorporated in my sump which is a nitrate and phosphate eating machine. I wouldn't recomend with a sps tank but, I have all softies and lps, couple hardy lps. I do not ever test high for nitrates and phosphates. I have a heavy bioload so the water changes with vacuming IMO works for me. No algae in the display other than coraline!

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgraf

I have a crushed coral and sand mix in a 65 with a 20 gallon sump. I wanted some larger pieces so my pistol could build his caves. I add more sand now and again, I also vacum where I can when I do a bi-monthly water change. I also have an algae scrubber incorporated in my sump which is a nitrate and phosphate eating machine. I wouldn't recomend with a sps tank but, I have all softies and lps, couple hardy lps. I do not ever test high for nitrates and phosphates. I have a heavy bioload so the water changes with vacuming IMO works for me. No algae in the display other than coraline!

thank you

Anemone · 06/04/2011, 11:06 PM

Crushed coral in my 65 gallon. I've added a little finer sand over the years. Anywhere from 2-5 inches deep. Tank's been up since 1994.

Thrse two keep the substrate somewhat mixed.

Kevin

pmrossetti · 06/04/2011, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anemone

Crushed coral in my 65 gallon. I've added a little finer sand over the years. Anywhere from 2-5 inches deep. Tank's been up since 1994.

Thrse two keep the substrate somewhat mixed.

Kevin

Wow, awesome. do you vacuum the cc?

Anemone · 06/04/2011, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrossetti

Wow, awesome. do you vacuum the cc?

Did for the first 5 years or so, until I added some smaller stuff. Then I stopped.

Kevin

06/04/2011, 06:59 PM	#1
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	(alright, here goes)Can I see pics of your CRUSHED CORAL tank,pleeeaaase??? If there are any out there.Thinking of using #4 size 1" bed in next tank. Yes, you can try to talk me out of it if you like. I'm open. Tropic Eden Reeflakes almost qualifies at 3mm, but found some beautiful stuff online at reefsand.com. pretty pleeaase

06/04/2011, 07:30 PM	#3
muttley000 MTS Sufferer! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 1,926	pmrossetti has been around the block a few times and I would guess he knows what he is up to here! My tanks all have sand and I am of no help to you here Can you tell us what your up to __________________ Next step on the system is adding A 90 gallon! Current Tank Info: 475 multitank system is now running! Several hundred gallons of additions planned!

06/04/2011, 07:37 PM	#5
albano SALTWATER since '73 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Katonah, NY/ San Fernando Ca./ Sea Isle City NJ Posts: 6,210	I have quite a few pics...from the 1970's & 80's __________________ ______________________________________ Jan. '11 TOTM Manhattan Reefs Current Tank Info: 500g & 200g acrylic DTs/2 separate reef systems

06/04/2011, 11:06 PM	#18
Anemone Cloning Around Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Valencia, California Posts: 25,267	Crushed coral in my 65 gallon. I've added a little finer sand over the years. Anywhere from 2-5 inches deep. Tank's been up since 1994. Thrse two keep the substrate somewhat mixed. Kevin __________________ Back in the pool, swimming with the sharks... Current Tank Info: Red Sea 425XL w/Kessil AP700, Vertex 180i Skimmer, 2 x Vortech MP40s Last edited by Anemone; 06/04/2011 at 11:19 PM.

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06/04/2011, 07:09 PM	#2
hollister Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,037	Crushed coral would not be a good idea. Cant tell u how many people wish they didnt do that. Its a nitrate nightmare and no CUC can cure it. With Sand u get more worms and u could use nass. snails and with proper water flow will convert ammonia to O2.

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jcw Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: elmhurst, il Posts: 1,778	Anything in particular you want to see? I have one set up for 6 months. Too much coralline on the glass for pictures, though. Tommorrow is cleaning day. __________________ I don't think Coral can live very long under Sun light. It's too yellow. ...get yourself some LED's. -eznet2u Current Tank Info: 125g DT, custom 30g sump, ATB elegance, eheim 1260, mp40 (too many failed wetsides), gyre 150 (love it)

06/04/2011, 07:38 PM	#6
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	up to wanting to see crushed coral tanks, that's all. thinking it's easy to vacuum and keeps good oxygen levels throughout.

06/04/2011, 07:46 PM	#8
sporto0 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa. Posts: 2,924	i wish i could i post a pic of my crushed coral tank, so that you would think twice about trying it, i had the worse case of gha you could imagine before i swapped the substrate for sand. the mud that was at the bottom of the tank literally had me gagging & i vacuumed it once a week as good as i could, i would never have been able to reduce the nutrients & phosphates in that tank in a million years. but hey prove me wrong.

06/04/2011, 07:59 PM	#11
sporto0 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa. Posts: 2,924	well of course there were corals i had to go around & it was a 55 so with all the live rock did not leave much room on either side or in front, trust me it was a nightmare! under the LR was putrid, detritus collects and works its way to the bottom, also there were some scary lookin bristle worms down there. i dont think cuc was able to penetrate enough to make a difference but like i said before prove me wrong.

06/04/2011, 10:50 PM	#16
mgraf Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canal Fulton Posts: 741	I have a crushed coral and sand mix in a 65 with a 20 gallon sump. I wanted some larger pieces so my pistol could build his caves. I add more sand now and again, I also vacum where I can when I do a bi-monthly water change. I also have an algae scrubber incorporated in my sump which is a nitrate and phosphate eating machine. I wouldn't recomend with a sps tank but, I have all softies and lps, couple hardy lps. I do not ever test high for nitrates and phosphates. I have a heavy bioload so the water changes with vacuming IMO works for me. No algae in the display other than coraline!