Frogspawn needs Help?

thebkramer · 06/27/2011, 12:36 PM

My new Frogspawn, I don't think is doing so well

I've had it for about 3wks? now. The first night it was in there.. my peppermints went crazy on it.. I even thought the shrimp ate it. but it opened the next day BUT.. it has not opened as full as it was when I purchased. I thought it was just ticked and taking its time to reopen. Then.. I added another powerhead.. and my tank finally has great flow!! so...
I'm wondering if the flow is too much? if it is.. I don't know what to do.. cause there is nowhere with less flow anymore..

[IMG]http://i56.*******.com/28ib1xf.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i54.*******.com/oiyjk.jpg[/IMG]

Frogspawn Video

Thanks for any insight you can give me!!

aleonn · 06/27/2011, 01:10 PM

My frogspawn appreciate moderate flow and moderate lighting. Too much flow and their polyps and flesh can tear off. You might consider moving yours to a different spot in the tank.

My cleaner shrimp used to bother the frogspawn, which sometimes prevented full extension. Luckily they moved on to different rocks, and have been kept well fed, just in case.

thebkramer · 06/27/2011, 01:34 PM

there is no where else for him to go

I was hoping that the flow is okay and he just needs to adjust...
you think he's annoyed by the flow?
I'm wondering if I may need to sell him?

sn4265 · 06/27/2011, 01:36 PM

One thing that we did to get some lower flow areas for our frog and torch was to angle the powerheads up slightly and point there flows at each other. We now have some good moderate/lower flow areas and the frog and torch are doing great.

thebkramer · 06/27/2011, 01:38 PM

its crazy.. because there is one place in the tank with minimum flow.. BUT.. its right next to my PLTA!! so that will DEF be a problem!! GRRrrrrrrrrr!!!

here is a FTS

[IMG]http://i56.*******.com/10f3yv6.jpg[/IMG]

aleonn · 06/27/2011, 04:11 PM

+1 to angling powerheads up slightly. Or try moving the frogspawn a little lower.

thebkramer · 06/27/2011, 04:15 PM

is the video not clear enough? should I try to make a better one?
the new powerhead is a 1400.. no matter which direction you face it in.. theres lots of flow lol

Edit: maybe video with actinics will show the flow v. frogspawn better..

Lynnmw1208 · 06/27/2011, 08:05 PM

you could also try to "shield" it from the flow by moving it behind that pillar a bit. I'd say move it down and in a sort of alcove. My one frogspawn doesn't like a lot of flow either so I had to move it way down and it's still getting some pretty good flow lol. I only have 2x koralia 1400s in my tank but boy those things move some water! I also angled one of my powerheads a little bit up to try and cease the flow a bit.

mike5051 · 06/27/2011, 08:20 PM

I've got the powerhead on the right aimed at the back glass, the one on the left is towards the front glass. My returns are pointed at the powerheade to create some turbulence. Frogspawn is near the center of the tank on the bottom next to my toadstool. You should be able to create similar flow characteristics with your powerheads.

lacosta28 · 06/27/2011, 11:45 PM

When I added my second vortech my frogspawn did not like it at all, and like your situation there really wasn't anywhere to move it so I left it where it was. After a few weeks it adjusted to the flow and it is now doing better than ever. Try to move it and also give it some time to adjust.

mykol · 06/27/2011, 11:51 PM

Is that a castle in your tank?

thebkramer · 06/28/2011, 10:07 AM

Thanks everyone for all your advice!! Very much appreciate!
I'll attempt to make the flow "quieter" in his area.. if not.. I will give him a little longer to see if he adjusts.. FINGERS CROSSED!!! lol

yes mykol.. I have a castle.. 2 actually

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1852186

06/27/2011, 12:36 PM	#1
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	Frogspawn needs Help? My new Frogspawn, I don't think is doing so well I've had it for about 3wks? now. The first night it was in there.. my peppermints went crazy on it.. I even thought the shrimp ate it. but it opened the next day BUT.. it has not opened as full as it was when I purchased. I thought it was just ticked and taking its time to reopen. Then.. I added another powerhead.. and my tank finally has great flow!! so... I'm wondering if the flow is too much? if it is.. I don't know what to do.. cause there is nowhere with less flow anymore.. [IMG]http://i56.*****.com/28ib1xf.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i54.*****.com/oiyjk.jpg[/IMG] Frogspawn Video Thanks for any insight you can give me!! __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

06/27/2011, 01:34 PM	#3
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	there is no where else for him to go I was hoping that the flow is okay and he just needs to adjust... you think he's annoyed by the flow? I'm wondering if I may need to sell him? __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

06/27/2011, 01:36 PM	#4
sn4265 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 570	One thing that we did to get some lower flow areas for our frog and torch was to angle the powerheads up slightly and point there flows at each other. We now have some good moderate/lower flow areas and the frog and torch are doing great. __________________ First saltwater tank setup 11/6/10: 80 lbs LS and 150 lbs LR, Aquamaxx EM200 skimmer & Phosban Reactor Photon 48 LED pH 8.0, Temp 78, NO3 ~0, Mg 1400, Ca 420, Alk 7.5 Current Tank Info: 120 gal with 40B sump with fuge, pair of black Occellaris Clowns, purple Firefish, Coral Banded Shrimp, Foxface

06/27/2011, 01:38 PM	#5
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	its crazy.. because there is one place in the tank with minimum flow.. BUT.. its right next to my PLTA!! so that will DEF be a problem!! GRRrrrrrrrrr!!! here is a FTS [IMG]http://i56.*******.com/10f3yv6.jpg[/IMG] __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

06/27/2011, 04:15 PM	#7
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	is the video not clear enough? should I try to make a better one? the new powerhead is a 1400.. no matter which direction you face it in.. theres lots of flow lol Edit: maybe video with actinics will show the flow v. frogspawn better.. __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS Last edited by thebkramer; 06/27/2011 at 04:30 PM.

06/27/2011, 01:10 PM	#2
aleonn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,041	My frogspawn appreciate moderate flow and moderate lighting. Too much flow and their polyps and flesh can tear off. You might consider moving yours to a different spot in the tank. My cleaner shrimp used to bother the frogspawn, which sometimes prevented full extension. Luckily they moved on to different rocks, and have been kept well fed, just in case.

06/27/2011, 04:11 PM	#6
aleonn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,041	+1 to angling powerheads up slightly. Or try moving the frogspawn a little lower.

06/27/2011, 08:05 PM	#8
Lynnmw1208 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brunswick, Ohio Posts: 3,306	you could also try to "shield" it from the flow by moving it behind that pillar a bit. I'd say move it down and in a sort of alcove. My one frogspawn doesn't like a lot of flow either so I had to move it way down and it's still getting some pretty good flow lol. I only have 2x koralia 1400s in my tank but boy those things move some water! I also angled one of my powerheads a little bit up to try and cease the flow a bit. __________________ equipment: Eshopps psk-200 skimmer, Mag 12 pump, 30gal sump, 2x 300w Finnex heaters, glass-holes 1500gph overflow kit with 3/4" return kits, 72" 8x36w t-5 AquaticLife light, 66lbs of LR, 150lbs of tropic eden reeflakes, 2 Koralia Evo 1400, JBJ ATO, BRS dual GFO/carbon reactors, Hydor smartwave Current Tank Info: 125gallon

06/27/2011, 11:45 PM	#10
lacosta28 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 632	When I added my second vortech my frogspawn did not like it at all, and like your situation there really wasn't anywhere to move it so I left it where it was. After a few weeks it adjusted to the flow and it is now doing better than ever. Try to move it and also give it some time to adjust. __________________ Tanks: 150g Reef Tank and 93g Frameless Marineland Reef ready cube. EcoTech pro ligths, M1 Return pumps and MP40QD's on both tanks managed by a Reeflink. Neptune controller manages everything else. Current Tank Info: 150g and 93g Rimless, both reef tanks.

06/27/2011, 11:51 PM	#11
mykol Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 101	Is that a castle in your tank?

06/28/2011, 10:07 AM	#12
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	Thanks everyone for all your advice!! Very much appreciate! I'll attempt to make the flow "quieter" in his area.. if not.. I will give him a little longer to see if he adjusts.. FINGERS CROSSED!!! lol yes mykol.. I have a castle.. 2 actually http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1852186 __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

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