If Vortechs are worth the money I still have some questions:

Orcrone · 07/01/2011, 08:13 AM

There is another thread titled "Is the Ecotech MP40wES REALLY worth the $??!!". In this thread the general consensus is that they are. I've been looking at purchasing used ones and the fact that they sell very quickly for a large percentage of their original purchase price bears this out. However, I've noticed a couple of things that give me pause.

Many of the listings indicate "new wet side". It seems to me that there may be reliability issues. And at $77 replacing a wetside is as expensive as many new powerheads.
I understand that some people sell equipment for a variety of reasons; getting out of the hobby, up or downsizing their system, etc. However, it still seem that a lot of people are selling their Vortechs and I'm just wondering why.

disc1 · 07/01/2011, 09:27 AM

A lot of people are upgrading to MP60's and selling their 40's. I know that's not all of it, but I think that has something to do with the sudden spike in MP40's for sale.

rysher · 07/01/2011, 09:32 AM

or moving to tunze

Orcrone · 07/01/2011, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rysher

or moving to tunze

If that's the case I'd be curious as to why they're making the switch.

tmgrash · 07/01/2011, 10:07 AM

My three mp40w have been in constant operation for nearly two years. I have cleaned the wetside once. Havent had any issues. Actually gonna buy the mp60, two mp40 on the back. I love em, and once you add the price of a controller to the other brands pricing is very close. Now let me knock on some wood.

Logzor · 07/01/2011, 10:12 AM

I was the same way and I think I made the right decision by not buying an mp40. However, I did buy the Mp60, I am extremely happy with it, this pump is freakin sick.

nvdiz · 07/01/2011, 10:34 AM

vortechs are they way to go! I'm still running the original blue driver mp10 in my BC29, but haven't had a problem with the wet side.

As for them being listed for sale a lot, the reason could be several such as: upgrading, downgrading, or getting out of the hobby (which has been the case for several people)

solitude127 · 07/01/2011, 11:09 AM

I've had my MP40 for 2 years and haven't had to replace the wetside.

murphreef · 07/01/2011, 11:12 AM

I had owned a mp40 on my 180 loved it... sold mine because got out of the hobby for a year... when i came back and got a new 25g nano first thing i got was a mp10 great pumps imo

DeepSeaBeauti · 07/01/2011, 11:45 AM

I have had my two MP40w es now for well over a year on the one, and about 6 months on the other. So far other then cleaning the algae off with a tooth brush in the tank i have never had an issue with the wet side. The pumps run great, and are full of features.

I think the main differences in the two pumps, or should i say the deciding factor is that the vortechs are not directional. But believe me they move so much water they don't need to be. JMO

SkullV · 07/01/2011, 11:56 AM

The reason that you see people having to replace the wet side is because no one posts when they do NOT have to replace a wet side. They only post when there is an issue. There is only one wear part in an MP40 wet side and that is the drive shaft. This shaft can have to be replaced anywhere from 1 year to never depending on how you run your pump. It is a very cheap part and a very easy replacement.

I upgraded tanks and have gone from a 24g with one MP10 to a 75g with 2 MP40wES running in anti-sync and My fish, corals, and I couldn't be happier.

Maivortex · 07/01/2011, 09:43 PM

The ceramic oring will also wear out. Another small part of the drive shaft can swell for unknown reason to me. These parts are cheap to replace. Most of the time ecotech will just send u one for free.

albano · 07/01/2011, 10:11 PM

IMO, they are very good/reliable, but, overpriced!

If you can find a used one...get it!

BrassMonkey · 07/01/2011, 10:24 PM

dont like how you need all ecotech units and not just a master. im not sure if they do that on purpose or not.

Saltwatercoral2 · 07/01/2011, 10:30 PM

i am currently lookin at the mp40, i had a couple before, but sold them as i had to downsize, now im getting back to a bigger tank so im lookin at the 40, right now i can get it for 360 shipped from BRs, but just not sure if i want to shell out the money at this time.. decision decision decisions.

Orcrone · 07/02/2011, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saltwatercoral2

i am currently lookin at the mp40, i had a couple before, but sold them as i had to downsize, now im getting back to a bigger tank so im lookin at the 40, right now i can get it for 360 shipped from BRs, but just not sure if i want to shell out the money at this time.. decision decision decisions.

They're having a 10% off sale & listing them for $400.50.

albano · 07/02/2011, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saltwatercoral2

i can get it for 360 shipped from BRs,.. decision decision decisions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orcrone

They're having a 10% off sale & listing them for $400.50.

??????????
decision decision decisions

Saltwatercoral2 · 07/02/2011, 11:01 AM

I have 40 dollars off in BRS points

Haplochromine · 07/02/2011, 12:03 PM

I've been around countless aquariums and all sorts of pumps and lighting schemas and everything in between the most expensive aquarium to the least.

I can say that in my experience, the type of pump has little effect on coral health and growth. Maxijets, stream pumps, vortechs, mag drives (yes, I've seen this)...as long as your corals are getting some good flow, I've seen the corals over the years flourish in any setup. The key has been routine, diligent, quality maintenance.

Plato · 07/02/2011, 02:59 PM

Over priced NO! The level of customer service I have recived from the is pricless. One of the best compaines to take care of their product and clients. I have 10s, 20s, 40s, and 60s. My own tank has two 60s and I replaced my Tunze streams and wave box. Much less stuff in the tank and easer to dile in. My first 60 had an issue on the wet side on the second week it was up and they quickly sent me a replacment and a prepaid UPS lable to return the deffective side. They realy take care of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMMeewqLl8U

kenjung · 07/02/2011, 06:05 PM

I have 2 mp40 soon mp60 as far as equipment in reefing they are good as advertise, you cant say the same thing about many several big money gears in our hobby. SPS loves it, fishes loves it especially hard to keep tangs.

NYCBOB · 07/02/2011, 06:50 PM

love my mp40s! my tunze and koralias r gethering dust.

Orcrone · 07/02/2011, 07:19 PM

I ordered two MP40s today.

ColaAddict · 07/02/2011, 07:30 PM

Did you order from BRS, they are %10 off there right now.

Orcrone · 07/02/2011, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColaAddict

Did you order from BRS, they are %10 off there right now.

I received a 15% off coupon code (JULY4) from that Pet Place.

07/01/2011, 08:13 AM	#1
Orcrone Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 646	If Vortechs are worth the money I still have some questions: There is another thread titled "Is the Ecotech MP40wES REALLY worth the $??!!". In this thread the general consensus is that they are. I've been looking at purchasing used ones and the fact that they sell very quickly for a large percentage of their original purchase price bears this out. However, I've noticed a couple of things that give me pause. Many of the listings indicate "new wet side". It seems to me that there may be reliability issues. And at $77 replacing a wetside is as expensive as many new powerheads. I understand that some people sell equipment for a variety of reasons; getting out of the hobby, up or downsizing their system, etc. However, it still seem that a lot of people are selling their Vortechs and I'm just wondering why.

07/01/2011, 09:27 AM	#2
disc1 -RT * ln(k) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock Posts: 9,705	A lot of people are upgrading to MP60's and selling their 40's. I know that's not all of it, but I think that has something to do with the sudden spike in MP40's for sale. __________________ David Current Tank: Undergoing reconstruction...

07/01/2011, 10:07 AM	#5
tmgrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 580	My three mp40w have been in constant operation for nearly two years. I have cleaned the wetside once. Havent had any issues. Actually gonna buy the mp60, two mp40 on the back. I love em, and once you add the price of a controller to the other brands pricing is very close. Now let me knock on some wood. __________________ Travis Grasha 240 gal with Aquaillumination LED's

07/01/2011, 10:34 AM	#7
nvdiz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Skokie Posts: 1,345	vortechs are they way to go! I'm still running the original blue driver mp10 in my BC29, but haven't had a problem with the wet side. As for them being listed for sale a lot, the reason could be several such as: upgrading, downgrading, or getting out of the hobby (which has been the case for several people) __________________ Nano Cube 24 <----- Look at pics in my albums Current Tank Info: SPS Biocube 29

07/01/2011, 11:09 AM	#8
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	I've had my MP40 for 2 years and haven't had to replace the wetside. __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

07/01/2011, 09:32 AM	#3
rysher Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Location: Location Posts: 577	or moving to tunze

07/01/2011, 10:12 AM	#6
Logzor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kenwood, Ohio Posts: 4,073	I was the same way and I think I made the right decision by not buying an mp40. However, I did buy the Mp60, I am extremely happy with it, this pump is freakin sick.

07/01/2011, 11:12 AM	#9
murphreef Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: simi valley Posts: 3,208	I had owned a mp40 on my 180 loved it... sold mine because got out of the hobby for a year... when i came back and got a new 25g nano first thing i got was a mp10 great pumps imo __________________ Justin Current Tank Info: 25G cube (finally back in the hobby in a small way)

07/01/2011, 11:45 AM	#10
DeepSeaBeauti Will Fielitz Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Patchogue , long Island Posts: 1,151	I have had my two MP40w es now for well over a year on the one, and about 6 months on the other. So far other then cleaning the algae off with a tooth brush in the tank i have never had an issue with the wet side. The pumps run great, and are full of features. I think the main differences in the two pumps, or should i say the deciding factor is that the vortechs are not directional. But believe me they move so much water they don't need to be. JMO __________________ I can never figure out why my wallet is empty. But my tank sure is awsome looking. Current Tank Info: 300G DD reef tank, 100g sump 40g breeder set up as a refugium, C-skim skimmer, , 2 165w LED and t5 setup, BRS reactor for carbon and GFO. Fish: lawnmower blenny, 12clowns, Watchmen golby, FoxFace, Yellow angle, 6line wrase.

07/01/2011, 11:56 AM	#11
SkullV They Got My Number Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 6,898	The reason that you see people having to replace the wet side is because no one posts when they do NOT have to replace a wet side. They only post when there is an issue. There is only one wear part in an MP40 wet side and that is the drive shaft. This shaft can have to be replaced anywhere from 1 year to never depending on how you run your pump. It is a very cheap part and a very easy replacement. I upgraded tanks and have gone from a 24g with one MP10 to a 75g with 2 MP40wES running in anti-sync and My fish, corals, and I couldn't be happier.

07/01/2011, 09:43 PM	#12
Maivortex Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: PARADISE, us Posts: 666 Blog Entries: 1	The ceramic oring will also wear out. Another small part of the drive shaft can swell for unknown reason to me. These parts are cheap to replace. Most of the time ecotech will just send u one for free.

07/01/2011, 10:11 PM	#13
albano SALTWATER since '73 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Katonah, NY/ San Fernando Ca./ Sea Isle City NJ Posts: 6,210	IMO, they are very good/reliable, but, overpriced! If you can find a used one...get it! __________________ ______________________________________ Jan. '11 TOTM Manhattan Reefs Current Tank Info: 500g & 200g acrylic DTs/2 separate reef systems

07/01/2011, 10:24 PM	#14
BrassMonkey Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach Posts: 950	dont like how you need all ecotech units and not just a master. im not sure if they do that on purpose or not.

07/01/2011, 10:30 PM	#15
Saltwatercoral2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,617	i am currently lookin at the mp40, i had a couple before, but sold them as i had to downsize, now im getting back to a bigger tank so im lookin at the 40, right now i can get it for 360 shipped from BRs, but just not sure if i want to shell out the money at this time.. decision decision decisions.

07/02/2011, 11:01 AM	#18
Saltwatercoral2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,617	I have 40 dollars off in BRS points

07/02/2011, 12:03 PM	#19
Haplochromine Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 205	I've been around countless aquariums and all sorts of pumps and lighting schemas and everything in between the most expensive aquarium to the least. I can say that in my experience, the type of pump has little effect on coral health and growth. Maxijets, stream pumps, vortechs, mag drives (yes, I've seen this)...as long as your corals are getting some good flow, I've seen the corals over the years flourish in any setup. The key has been routine, diligent, quality maintenance. __________________ 20G Frag Tank - Koralia 750, Sunlight Supply New Wave 4x24W T5HO, 50W Eheim Jager Heater. 20G Frag Tank - Koralia 550, 70W Metal Halide 20K Ushio, 50W Eheim Jager Heater 10G Rimless Display - Koralia 425, 70W Metal Halide 20K Ushio, 50W Eheim Jager Heater 15G Empty

07/02/2011, 02:59 PM	#20
Plato Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NC Posts: 638	Over priced NO! The level of customer service I have recived from the is pricless. One of the best compaines to take care of their product and clients. I have 10s, 20s, 40s, and 60s. My own tank has two 60s and I replaced my Tunze streams and wave box. Much less stuff in the tank and easer to dile in. My first 60 had an issue on the wet side on the second week it was up and they quickly sent me a replacment and a prepaid UPS lable to return the deffective side. They realy take care of you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMMeewqLl8U __________________ Genesis 2:28 God blessed them and said to them,"Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground." Current Tank Info: 275 starphire, 3 x 400 watt MH + 4 x 80 watt T5's, 2 x MP 60 + 2 x MP 40, Orca 250 skimmer, CADS filter head (SeaVisions), ProCal Ca reactor, GHL controlled.

07/02/2011, 06:05 PM	#21
kenjung Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 88	I have 2 mp40 soon mp60 as far as equipment in reefing they are good as advertise, you cant say the same thing about many several big money gears in our hobby. SPS loves it, fishes loves it especially hard to keep tangs.

07/02/2011, 06:50 PM	#22
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	love my mp40s! my tunze and koralias r gethering dust.

07/02/2011, 07:19 PM	#23
Orcrone Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 646	I ordered two MP40s today.

07/02/2011, 07:30 PM	#24
ColaAddict Moved On Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northbrook Posts: 370	Did you order from BRS, they are %10 off there right now.

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