Chemi-Pure?

Saadatski · 08/13/2011, 08:10 PM

Where can i put chemis pure in my sump? am i supposed to cram it in between something? should i just get a carbon reactor.

Reefman29 · 08/13/2011, 08:34 PM

I plan to put some in between two baffles allowing the water to run through it. Thats just me though

Saadatski · 08/13/2011, 08:35 PM

well my bubble trap is 1" appart, will it fit and easily taken out?

NanoReefWanabe · 08/13/2011, 08:49 PM

i sat mine on top of my pump's intake...

Saadatski · 08/14/2011, 09:04 AM

that didn't slow down the flow?

NanoReefWanabe · 08/14/2011, 09:06 AM

no it is only ontop of the return inlet...the water can still get sucked around the bottom and sides...infact i am sure water will take the easiest path anyway...t likely is no different then just putting it in the sump somewhere else..

elegance coral · 08/14/2011, 09:11 AM

You can put it in any high flow area. Naturally, the more water you move through it, the better.

JG1 · 08/14/2011, 09:12 AM

what do you guys use this stuff for?

elegance coral · 08/14/2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JG1

what do you guys use this stuff for?

It's a chemical absorption media. http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=C...ID%3D529144779

JG1 · 08/14/2011, 10:06 AM

like this better then GAC?

elegance coral · 08/14/2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JG1

like this better then GAC?

That's a matter of opinion. I used it back in the day, but my LFS stopped carrying it, so I went back to GAC. IMHO, there's not a big enough difference to lose sleep over. GAC works just fine for what I need it to do.

JG1 · 08/14/2011, 10:43 AM

looks like chemi-pure last longer though?

elegance coral · 08/14/2011, 10:52 AM

Who knows?????? Maybe it does?????? Maybe it's just marketing propaganda??????

dzhuo · 08/14/2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elegance coral

Who knows?????? Maybe it does?????? Maybe it's just marketing propaganda??????

It's mostly just marketing propaganda. Chemi-Pure is a mixture of ion exchange resin (which doesn't work in salt water and last shortly) and carbon (which happen to be a bad one because it's base on bitum). Boomer and Randy have looked into the product and here is a quote from Boomer:

Chemi Pure & Activated Carbon

Quote:

what do you base your info on?

The resin is an ion exchange resin and then do nothing in seawater but are fine for Freshwater. If you ask them they will tell you it is an ion excahnge resin (see below)

magnavore and API also use resins and what then of Purigen,

They are not ion excahnge resins but organic adsorption resins a different beast.

you make some pretty biased claims yet thousands of aquarists use it for discus, african cichlids and of course Marine

I said seawater and thousands of aquarists means nothing to me, as many are mislead like you. I do not sell anything but like the truth to be known. That is what most of this forum is about.

who would strongly disagree with your biased and I believe wrong claims

Well, prove me wrong. I have seen nobody that does not disagree with me once they know the facts. Go ahead and explain to me how an ion exchange resin works in seawater. The resin will be shot and worthless in seconds. Chemi-Pure is an ion excahnge resin and activated carbon and there are by far better activated carbon to use than the one in this product which is bitum based. They also use different grades of carbon which you never do in water filtration as it is self-defeating.

You are just propagating The same old info that has been circulating for years!

That is you not me

alot of other companies have tried to copy it

Who ? And make sure first you know what is in the other products first. An idiot can copy that Chem-Pure stuff, it is not some kind of super secret.

The activated carbons used in Chemi-Pure are the finest most powerful, and longest lasting that money can buy

This is called marketing hype and a line of BS you buy into. Fell free to send some to Norit or Calgon for an assay and see what they tell you And many people have switched for Chemi-Pure to other products with better results. Most serious reefer consider Boyd's stuff "snake- oil".

What is a deionization resin ?
http://www.culliganmiami.com/pf5.html

Better yet ask the chem pure people how a DI resin works in seawater and what ions it is removing. Then ask them for a facts data sheet showing as such from lab. Run some adsorption test with Chemi-Pure vs other products to see what a colored dye remove rate is.

Chemi-Pure usually lasts for up to 6 months before it needs to be replaced.

This is also nonsense it will be 100 % biological way before that time and me useless way before that time. Fell free to call any activated carbon chemical engineering and ask then that or these other questions.

The activated carbons filter particulates and waste while the ion exchange resins help remove nitrogen (ammonia and nitrate) build up which is harmful to your fish.

Yes, in freshwater but NOT seawater. Will it remove * some in seawater, yes but so will activated carbon. Try to save some fish with this stuff in seawater with high ammonia, it won't happen but will work in FW . Do you know how you regenerate a DI resin that removes ammonium ? You use table salt and seawater is 85 % table salt. So, how is that going to work by magic ?

If you want to believe in marketing hype have at it but I will do all I can to keep others from it, that is my job here

Basically Chemi-Pure is fairly useless.

08/13/2011, 08:10 PM	#1
Saadatski Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 875	Chemi-Pure? Where can i put chemis pure in my sump? am i supposed to cram it in between something? should i just get a carbon reactor. __________________ 75 gallon FOWLR for now- 2x250w MH Current USA Outer Orbit with T5 actinic, Vortech MP40

08/13/2011, 08:35 PM	#3
Saadatski Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 875	well my bubble trap is 1" appart, will it fit and easily taken out? __________________ 75 gallon FOWLR for now- 2x250w MH Current USA Outer Orbit with T5 actinic, Vortech MP40

08/14/2011, 09:04 AM	#5
Saadatski Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 875	that didn't slow down the flow? __________________ 75 gallon FOWLR for now- 2x250w MH Current USA Outer Orbit with T5 actinic, Vortech MP40

08/14/2011, 09:11 AM	#7
elegance coral They call me EC Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: central Florida Posts: 6,208	You can put it in any high flow area. Naturally, the more water you move through it, the better. __________________ "Most of the failures with marine aquaria are due to lack of knowledge of the biological processes that occur in the aquarium." Martin A. Moe, Jr. "A scientist seeks the truth, wherever that may lead. A believer already knows the truth, and cannot be swayed no matter how compelling the evidence." Current Tank Info: I'm trying to see how many tanks will fit in my house before the wife loses it.

08/14/2011, 09:12 AM	#8
JG1 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sicklerville, NJ 08081 Posts: 2,256	what do you guys use this stuff for? __________________ -John Current Tank Info: 100g Rimless Starphire

08/13/2011, 08:34 PM	#2
Reefman29 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 610	I plan to put some in between two baffles allowing the water to run through it. Thats just me though

08/13/2011, 08:49 PM	#4
NanoReefWanabe Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,639	i sat mine on top of my pump's intake...

08/14/2011, 09:06 AM	#6
NanoReefWanabe Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,639	no it is only ontop of the return inlet...the water can still get sucked around the bottom and sides...infact i am sure water will take the easiest path anyway...t likely is no different then just putting it in the sump somewhere else..

08/14/2011, 10:06 AM	#10
JG1 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sicklerville, NJ 08081 Posts: 2,256	like this better then GAC? __________________ -John Current Tank Info: 100g Rimless Starphire

08/14/2011, 10:43 AM	#12
JG1 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sicklerville, NJ 08081 Posts: 2,256	looks like chemi-pure last longer though? __________________ -John Current Tank Info: 100g Rimless Starphire

08/14/2011, 10:52 AM	#13
elegance coral They call me EC Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: central Florida Posts: 6,208	Who knows?????? Maybe it does?????? Maybe it's just marketing propaganda?????? __________________ "Most of the failures with marine aquaria are due to lack of knowledge of the biological processes that occur in the aquarium." Martin A. Moe, Jr. "A scientist seeks the truth, wherever that may lead. A believer already knows the truth, and cannot be swayed no matter how compelling the evidence." Current Tank Info: I'm trying to see how many tanks will fit in my house before the wife loses it.

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