Flame Angel as a first fish

dnguyen1 · 09/19/2011, 12:20 AM

The reef fish forum gave me a great amount of feedback. Curious now on the precedures. Will adding a flame angel first be a problem in a 50g? I want to make sure I stock appropriately so that in the end I don't have the most aggressive fish going in first

My stock list tentatively (50g rimless cube).

1. Flame Angel
2. Clown pair
3. Fridmani
4. Wrasse (unsure which one and not sure if even possible because they jump)
5. Toby puffer... if I can get over my fear of them eating snails/corals

Honorable mentions (would take place of wrasse and/or Toby Puffer) : 3 Green Chromis, or scooter blenny, or ????

Thanks guys

raidersfan3ooo · 09/19/2011, 01:09 AM

dwarf angels in general shouldn't go in first, you can but it will be come very aggressive and territorial (i know cuz i did it lol)

you wanna throw in peaceful fish first and the more aggressive ones last, i couldnt wait to throw in my coral beauty so i did so first and now i regret it :/

b0bab0ey · 09/19/2011, 08:25 AM

I would start off with the Clown pair. Get them small enough so they won't be too aggressive. Flame Angels aren't the hardiest fish in the world and I would wait to add one when your tank is more mature.

crobattt · 09/19/2011, 08:36 AM

Id put them in like

Clowns
Fridmani
Wrasse
flame
puffer

Just my opinion

dnguyen1 · 09/19/2011, 09:46 AM

Clowns first it is

Dr Colliebreath · 09/19/2011, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crobattt

Id put them in like

Clowns
Fridmani
Wrasse
flame
puffer

Just my opinion

I would use this order also.

dnguyen1 · 09/19/2011, 01:51 PM

Thank you guys

Time to get cracking on some clowns

xCry0x · 09/19/2011, 01:59 PM

Would imagine that a puffer would quickly eat your entire cuc.

dnguyen1 · 09/19/2011, 02:05 PM

Yeah... most likely won't go w/ him... can't imagine manually doing CUC work myself.

jeffesaurusrex · 09/19/2011, 02:39 PM

Be aware that the BG Chromis' will likely attack each other. I bought three and the two bigger ones killed the smallest, and then left each other alone.

I think your best bet if you want to keep them is to try and get as similarly sized specimens as possible, so they can take the abuse from one another until things settle down and a heiarchy is established.

I do recommend them though, because they add a lot of activity and movement to your display. So far all my fish are hiders except for the Cromis'. They swim actively all around the tank, even searching in the caves and stuff. Their sleeping habits are amusing too, where the other fish have one spot they stick to, the Chromis' sleep in all different spots of the tank, and you will find them in the oddest of places. Sometimes they cuddle right up with the two clowns, sometimes they sleep near each other and sometimes one sleeps on the opposite side as the other. Under rocks, in holes, ect. Like a lot of fish they change to an ugly, drab color at night.

dnguyen1 · 09/19/2011, 03:13 PM

Oooh thanks for the advice Jeff, I will try to find them as similarly sized as possible

EllieSuz · 09/19/2011, 03:43 PM

My Flame Angel is quite the bully; although she doesn't actually attack, she chases the timid fish around. So, I agree with other responders that the angel is not the best first fish.

09/19/2011, 12:20 AM	#1
dnguyen1 Will work for fish Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 910	Flame Angel as a first fish The reef fish forum gave me a great amount of feedback. Curious now on the precedures. Will adding a flame angel first be a problem in a 50g? I want to make sure I stock appropriately so that in the end I don't have the most aggressive fish going in first My stock list tentatively (50g rimless cube). 1. Flame Angel 2. Clown pair 3. Fridmani 4. Wrasse (unsure which one and not sure if even possible because they jump) 5. Toby puffer... if I can get over my fear of them eating snails/corals Honorable mentions (would take place of wrasse and/or Toby Puffer) : 3 Green Chromis, or scooter blenny, or ???? Thanks guys __________________ Trying to keep the tank clean ONE DAY AT A TIME. Current Tank Info: 50g cube

09/19/2011, 08:36 AM	#4
crobattt Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 786	Id put them in like Clowns Fridmani Wrasse flame puffer Just my opinion __________________ Phil 4:13: I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

09/19/2011, 09:46 AM	#5
dnguyen1 Will work for fish Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 910	Clowns first it is __________________ Trying to keep the tank clean ONE DAY AT A TIME. Current Tank Info: 50g cube

09/19/2011, 01:51 PM	#7
dnguyen1 Will work for fish Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 910	Thank you guys Time to get cracking on some clowns __________________ Trying to keep the tank clean ONE DAY AT A TIME. Current Tank Info: 50g cube

09/19/2011, 02:05 PM	#9
dnguyen1 Will work for fish Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 910	Yeah... most likely won't go w/ him... can't imagine manually doing CUC work myself. __________________ Trying to keep the tank clean ONE DAY AT A TIME. Current Tank Info: 50g cube

09/19/2011, 01:09 AM	#2
raidersfan3ooo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 35	dwarf angels in general shouldn't go in first, you can but it will be come very aggressive and territorial (i know cuz i did it lol) you wanna throw in peaceful fish first and the more aggressive ones last, i couldnt wait to throw in my coral beauty so i did so first and now i regret it :/

09/19/2011, 08:25 AM	#3
b0bab0ey Moved On Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,564	I would start off with the Clown pair. Get them small enough so they won't be too aggressive. Flame Angels aren't the hardiest fish in the world and I would wait to add one when your tank is more mature.

09/19/2011, 01:59 PM	#8
xCry0x Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Martinez, CA Posts: 1,116	Would imagine that a puffer would quickly eat your entire cuc.

09/19/2011, 02:39 PM	#10
jeffesaurusrex Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Terre Haute, IN Posts: 322	Be aware that the BG Chromis' will likely attack each other. I bought three and the two bigger ones killed the smallest, and then left each other alone. I think your best bet if you want to keep them is to try and get as similarly sized specimens as possible, so they can take the abuse from one another until things settle down and a heiarchy is established. I do recommend them though, because they add a lot of activity and movement to your display. So far all my fish are hiders except for the Cromis'. They swim actively all around the tank, even searching in the caves and stuff. Their sleeping habits are amusing too, where the other fish have one spot they stick to, the Chromis' sleep in all different spots of the tank, and you will find them in the oddest of places. Sometimes they cuddle right up with the two clowns, sometimes they sleep near each other and sometimes one sleeps on the opposite side as the other. Under rocks, in holes, ect. Like a lot of fish they change to an ugly, drab color at night. __________________ -Jeff Current Tank Info: 29g Biocube - StevesLEDs - MP10 - Apex - Tunze

09/19/2011, 03:13 PM	#11
dnguyen1 Will work for fish Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 910	Oooh thanks for the advice Jeff, I will try to find them as similarly sized as possible __________________ Trying to keep the tank clean ONE DAY AT A TIME. Current Tank Info: 50g cube

09/19/2011, 03:43 PM	#12
EllieSuz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,858	My Flame Angel is quite the bully; although she doesn't actually attack, she chases the timid fish around. So, I agree with other responders that the angel is not the best first fish. __________________ "You can't learn this hobby one question at a time." (Mr. Tuskfish) Eileen Current Tank Info: I'm out of the hobby, but used to have a60 gal. reef, refugium in sump, Internal Mag 9 return, SC 302 skimmer, two Maxi-Jet 1200's modded, four bulb T5 Lighting, Reefkeeper Lite Controller with three PC4's, Little Fishes GFO reactor.

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