Difference Between Skimz Monzter and Kone?

button13 · 01/16/2012, 12:28 PM

I was just wondering what would be better in terms of performance - the SKIMZ SM 161 MONZTER E SERIES - IN-SUMP PROTEIN SKIMMER or the SKIMZ SK 181 KONE E SERIES - IN-SUMP PROTEIN SKIMMER? Thanks.

I was also wondering if anyone had experience with these or if they had something they liked better in the same price bracket?

Drae · 01/16/2012, 01:27 PM

a lot of dwbate if the cones actually skim better. bk, and deltec dont even make a cone... hmmm. and they're the best. again hmmm

button13 · 01/16/2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Drae

a lot of dwbate if the cones actually skim better. bk, and deltec dont even make a cone... hmmm. and they're the best. again hmmm

They are also out of my price range

Drae · 01/16/2012, 05:23 PM

mine too. just food for thought. I personally would go for the less expensive non cone. the want ads on rc always has good skimmers for less then i would have thought. for example there's a atb cone on there now for 400$ and a powermodule, 10 x 54 at that, for 600$. my tax return is good as gone! wink wink

regent2010 · 01/16/2012, 07:11 PM

i heard good reviews for the Skimz 181.

James77 · 01/16/2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Drae

a lot of dwbate if the cones actually skim better. bk, and deltec dont even make a cone... hmmm. and they're the best. again hmmm

Deltec were very good skimmersseveral years ago. BKs are overpriced and there are plenty of skimmers for less money that could match or beat them. I would not base either of them not using a cone as meaning anything.

James77 · 01/16/2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by button13

I was just wondering what would be better in terms of performance - the SKIMZ SM 161 MONZTER E SERIES - IN-SUMP PROTEIN SKIMMER or the SKIMZ SK 181 KONE E SERIES - IN-SUMP PROTEIN SKIMMER? Thanks.

I was also wondering if anyone had experience with these or if they had something they liked better in the same price bracket?

I've used the SK181, and it was a good skimmer. Not too bad noise wise, and performed well. I did sell mine and go with a Super Reef Octopus 2000 in sump, and it is one of my 2 favorite skimmers...the other being the H&S a150-f2001. Both the SRO and H&S pulled dry and thick enough foam to lift the cover and sheet down the side of the cup. The others I have tried are H&S a2002xf2001, ATB 840, Bubble king mini 160, Smimz 181, Reeflo orca 200 and 250, Octopus PS150, ASM G2, and a handful of other ones I cannot think of at the monment. The SRO has been the best bang for the buck, and cant beat its 3 year pump waranty.

button13 · 01/16/2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by James77

I've used the SK181, and it was a good skimmer. Not too bad noise wise, and performed well. I did sell mine and go with a Super Reef Octopus 2000 in sump, and it is one of my 2 favorite skimmers...the other being the H&S a150-f2001. Both the SRO and H&S pulled dry and thick enough foam to lift the cover and sheet down the side of the cup. The others I have tried are H&S a2002xf2001, ATB 840, Bubble king mini 160, Smimz 181, Reeflo orca 200 and 250, Octopus PS150, ASM G2, and a handful of other ones I cannot think of at the monment. The SRO has been the best bang for the buck, and cant beat its 3 year pump waranty.

Hmm maybe I'll have to go with a SRO then...I am looking for one with a small footprint though, and all of the SROs seemed like they had a larger footprint.

button13 · 01/16/2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Drae

mine too. just food for thought. I personally would go for the less expensive non cone. the want ads on rc always has good skimmers for less then i would have thought. for example there's a atb cone on there now for 400$ and a powermodule, 10 x 54 at that, for 600$. my tax return is good as gone! wink wink

ATBs are sick skimmers....they were my second choice.

James77 · 01/16/2012, 08:38 PM

There are a couple of SRO that are labeled as "space savers". Not sure if their performance is comparable to the others though.

http://www.reefspecialty.com/index.p...chk=1&Itemid=1

There are larger ones as well.

button13 · 01/16/2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by James77

There are a couple of SRO that are labeled as "space savers". Not sure if their performance is comparable to the others though.

http://www.reefspecialty.com/index.p...chk=1&Itemid=1

There are larger ones as well.

Thanks! I will look into those for sure.

SkullV · 01/16/2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by James77

There are a couple of SRO that are labeled as "space savers". Not sure if their performance is comparable to the others though.

http://www.reefspecialty.com/index.p...chk=1&Itemid=1

There are larger ones as well.

SRO says their Super Space Savers SSS do not perform as well as their equivalent standard skimmers.

moondoggy4 · 01/16/2012, 09:52 PM

What size is the tank? and how much room do you have to work with.

button13 · 01/16/2012, 10:08 PM

A 29, and I am still planning my sump now, but with very limited room under my stand, I want most of that to go to the refugium. I am planning to upgrade to a considerably larger tank in the next year and a half or so, and would like to keep the skimmer I buy for this tank. I would probably be willing to devote a 10 x 10 skimmer space at the most.

moondoggy4 · 01/17/2012, 01:52 AM

If you have a29 gallon tank just get a SC65 or is it a SC75 I cannot remember there is a thread on them SC skimmers you can buy it on ebay for about 70 bucks.

shaginwagon13 · 01/17/2012, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Drae

a lot of dwbate if the cones actually skim better. bk, and deltec dont even make a cone... hmmm. and they're the best. again hmmm

True BK doesn't, but Vertex Alpha does and they are owned by BK so in a way they do.

At my local fish store they have a Vertex Alpha 250 skimming 600 gallons and a BK supermarine 250 skimming 600 gallons. The Supermarine is larger, it costs approx. 600-700 more than the Vertex Alpha and the Alpha pulls out more waste from the tanks that it skims and both skimmers are cleaning tanks carrying similar livestock.

I bought the Vertex Alpha 250 after I saw it in action at the store and absolutely love it.

Drae · 01/17/2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shaginwagon13

True BK doesn't, but Vertex Alpha does and they are owned by BK so in a way they do.

At my local fish store they have a Vertex Alpha 250 skimming 600 gallons and a BK supermarine 250 skimming 600 gallons. The Supermarine is larger, it costs approx. 600-700 more than the Vertex Alpha and the Alpha pulls out more waste from the tanks that it skims and both skimmers are cleaning tanks carrying similar livestock.

I bought the Vertex Alpha 250 after I saw it in action at the store and absolutely love it.

oh yeah... i forgot about those...

kenith · 01/19/2012, 01:12 PM

Op- I have a skimz sk-201 for sale if you're interested. Used for 6 months. Let me know

button13 · 02/05/2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kenith

Op- I have a skimz sk-201 for sale if you're interested. Used for 6 months. Let me know

I would be very interested! Do you still have it?

FLSharkvictim · 03/13/2016, 06:59 PM

What did not like about the SKIMZ SM 161 MONZTER E SERIES if you dont mind me asking?

01/16/2012, 12:28 PM	#1
button13 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 94	Difference Between Skimz Monzter and Kone? I was just wondering what would be better in terms of performance - the SKIMZ SM 161 MONZTER E SERIES - IN-SUMP PROTEIN SKIMMER or the SKIMZ SK 181 KONE E SERIES - IN-SUMP PROTEIN SKIMMER? Thanks. I was also wondering if anyone had experience with these or if they had something they liked better in the same price bracket?

01/16/2012, 08:38 PM	#10
James77 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 8,158	There are a couple of SRO that are labeled as "space savers". Not sure if their performance is comparable to the others though. http://www.reefspecialty.com/index.p...chk=1&Itemid=1 There are larger ones as well. __________________ Jim Current Tank Info: 120g Mixed Reef and 75g Freshwater

01/19/2012, 01:12 PM	#18
kenith Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 677	Op- I have a skimz sk-201 for sale if you're interested. Used for 6 months. Let me know __________________ 225 In Wall Starphire ATI 8x80W powermodule

01/16/2012, 01:27 PM	#2
Drae RAIDER NATION! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: City of sin... Posts: 3,476	a lot of dwbate if the cones actually skim better. bk, and deltec dont even make a cone... hmmm. and they're the best. again hmmm

01/16/2012, 05:23 PM	#4
Drae RAIDER NATION! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: City of sin... Posts: 3,476	mine too. just food for thought. I personally would go for the less expensive non cone. the want ads on rc always has good skimmers for less then i would have thought. for example there's a atb cone on there now for 400$ and a powermodule, 10 x 54 at that, for 600$. my tax return is good as gone! wink wink

01/16/2012, 07:11 PM	#5
regent2010 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 134	i heard good reviews for the Skimz 181.

01/16/2012, 09:52 PM	#13
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	What size is the tank? and how much room do you have to work with.

01/16/2012, 10:08 PM	#14
button13 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 94	A 29, and I am still planning my sump now, but with very limited room under my stand, I want most of that to go to the refugium. I am planning to upgrade to a considerably larger tank in the next year and a half or so, and would like to keep the skimmer I buy for this tank. I would probably be willing to devote a 10 x 10 skimmer space at the most.

01/17/2012, 01:52 AM	#15
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	If you have a29 gallon tank just get a SC65 or is it a SC75 I cannot remember there is a thread on them SC skimmers you can buy it on ebay for about 70 bucks.

03/13/2016, 06:59 PM	#20
FLSharkvictim Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tampabay - FLORIDA Posts: 240	What did not like about the SKIMZ SM 161 MONZTER E SERIES if you dont mind me asking?