my scopus tang got shot? has a hole in its side

supernareg · 06/02/2012, 09:19 PM

one morning i woke up and saw that it had a black line going from it's middle down to the bottom, kind of like it was bleeding (but just discoloration there was nothing ON the skin). Then i noticed a small bullet hole.. like it legit got shot and was bleeding haha.

the hole hasnt gotten bigger, hasnt multiplied. the fish is swimming as usual (not erratically), and its eating my Formula 1 pellets.

what's wrong with it?? is it contagious??

Ms.Blue · 06/02/2012, 09:24 PM

How long ago did the spot appear?

supernareg · 06/02/2012, 09:29 PM

maybe 3 days now

Ms.Blue · 06/02/2012, 09:38 PM

Does it look to be infected? Are there any weird protrusions? Is it red? And finally do you have any sharp objects in your tank or any other aggressive fish?

supernareg · 06/02/2012, 11:54 PM

yellow tang which is bigger, used to bully it when i first put the scopas in (yellow was established) but doesnt bully as much.

that's what i was thinking too that maybe the yellow tang shot it

dryworm · 06/03/2012, 12:47 AM

maybe he is trying to get some street cred. is he a rapper?

medic155 · 06/03/2012, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dryworm

maybe he is trying to get some street cred. is he a rapper?

Maybe a pistol shrimp got him.

sorry, I couldn't resist

supernareg · 06/03/2012, 02:27 AM

Lol!

Mgreener · 05/12/2013, 06:16 PM

Hi! My blue tang have a hole in its side (like picture) ...
Please can anyone knows what I should do to help???
Thank you!

Shaun v · 05/12/2013, 06:24 PM

I did some searching and this is what I found...

"Head and Lateral Line Erosion (hole-in-head disease)

This disease can affect discus, other cichlids, and many saltwater fish. The fish develops holes in it's head and sometimes along its lateral line. Causes are unclear but as in any disease, stress and poor water quality likely play a role. The Manual of Fish Health states that HLLE is probably due to nutritional deficiency, especially of vitamin C. Fish in planted tanks rarely get HLLE, which supports the nutrition idea, since fish can nibble on the plants and obtain extra nutrition. Untergasser also observes that the protozoan Hexamita can be found in the lesions. Untreated cases can eventually prove disfiguring or fatal.
Remedy: First, make sure water quality is optimal and reduce stress. Stopping carbon filtration may help as it can remove nutrients from the water. Then feed a vitamin-enriched food, paying particular attention to vitamin C supplementation.

For stubborn cases, some books suggest metronidazole (Flagyl) to eliminate Hexamita (a mildly pathogenic protozoan) from the lesions. Your mileage may vary with that one. Metrozole and Hex-a-mit are commercial medications with metronidazole."

Quote from http://fins.actwin.com/mirror/disease-fw.html

Crush Coral · 05/12/2013, 09:02 PM

To me your tang looks very emaciated. Looks to me like he needs an improvement in his diet. Pics are not perfect but that is my opinion.

sczlars · 05/13/2013, 12:06 AM

+1 .. looks really thin. Daily nori, get it eating NLS pellets or something like that to fatten that fish up.

Palting · 05/13/2013, 06:32 AM

Another suspected cause for HLE is carbon fines. One more reason to remove any carbon, at least temporarily. Then when you resume carbon, rinse well first and make sure it doesn't get pulverized by too much tumbling where you place it or in the reactor. Plus, I agree with the others the tang looks malnourished in the photo. Daily nori on a clip should help. Not sure about NLS, though.

Shaun v · 05/16/2013, 09:38 PM

Any updates on your fish?

06/02/2012, 09:19 PM	#1
supernareg Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,610	my scopus tang got shot? has a hole in its side one morning i woke up and saw that it had a black line going from it's middle down to the bottom, kind of like it was bleeding (but just discoloration there was nothing ON the skin). Then i noticed a small bullet hole.. like it legit got shot and was bleeding haha. the hole hasnt gotten bigger, hasnt multiplied. the fish is swimming as usual (not erratically), and its eating my Formula 1 pellets. what's wrong with it?? is it contagious??

06/03/2012, 12:47 AM	#6
dryworm Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: dayton, ky Posts: 113	maybe he is trying to get some street cred. is he a rapper? __________________ When it was all said and done. More was said than done.

05/12/2013, 06:24 PM	#10
Shaun v Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bailey, Colorado Posts: 207	I did some searching and this is what I found... "Head and Lateral Line Erosion (hole-in-head disease) This disease can affect discus, other cichlids, and many saltwater fish. The fish develops holes in it's head and sometimes along its lateral line. Causes are unclear but as in any disease, stress and poor water quality likely play a role. The Manual of Fish Health states that HLLE is probably due to nutritional deficiency, especially of vitamin C. Fish in planted tanks rarely get HLLE, which supports the nutrition idea, since fish can nibble on the plants and obtain extra nutrition. Untergasser also observes that the protozoan Hexamita can be found in the lesions. Untreated cases can eventually prove disfiguring or fatal. Remedy: First, make sure water quality is optimal and reduce stress. Stopping carbon filtration may help as it can remove nutrients from the water. Then feed a vitamin-enriched food, paying particular attention to vitamin C supplementation. For stubborn cases, some books suggest metronidazole (Flagyl) to eliminate Hexamita (a mildly pathogenic protozoan) from the lesions. Your mileage may vary with that one. Metrozole and Hex-a-mit are commercial medications with metronidazole." Quote from http://fins.actwin.com/mirror/disease-fw.html __________________ "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." ~Jacques Yves Cousteau Current Tank Info: 16.75 gallon rimless star fire glass tank. 3 koralia 425 power heads, 30lbs LS, 22lbs LR. Kessil Tuna Blue 350w light. No sump, no filter, no refugium. Started on March 3, 2012

05/13/2013, 06:32 AM	#13
Palting Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,912	Another suspected cause for HLE is carbon fines. One more reason to remove any carbon, at least temporarily. Then when you resume carbon, rinse well first and make sure it doesn't get pulverized by too much tumbling where you place it or in the reactor. Plus, I agree with the others the tang looks malnourished in the photo. Daily nori on a clip should help. Not sure about NLS, though. __________________ Anything I post is just an opinion. One of many in this hobby. Believe and follow at your own risk of rapid and complete annihilation of all life in your tank :) Current Tank Info: Incept 3/2010, 150 RR, 50g sump, 20g fuge, 150w 15K MH x3, T5 actinics x8, moonlight LED x6, 1400gph return, Koralia 1400 x4, 300 g skimmer, 4 tangs, 2 mandarins, 2 perc, 6 line, 3 cardinals, 2 firefish, SPS, LPS, zoas, palys, shrooms, clam

05/16/2013, 09:38 PM	#14
Shaun v Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bailey, Colorado Posts: 207	Any updates on your fish? __________________ "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." ~Jacques Yves Cousteau Current Tank Info: 16.75 gallon rimless star fire glass tank. 3 koralia 425 power heads, 30lbs LS, 22lbs LR. Kessil Tuna Blue 350w light. No sump, no filter, no refugium. Started on March 3, 2012

06/02/2012, 09:24 PM	#2
Ms.Blue Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 51	How long ago did the spot appear?

06/02/2012, 09:29 PM	#3
supernareg Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,610	maybe 3 days now

06/02/2012, 09:38 PM	#4
Ms.Blue Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 51	Does it look to be infected? Are there any weird protrusions? Is it red? And finally do you have any sharp objects in your tank or any other aggressive fish?

06/02/2012, 11:54 PM	#5
supernareg Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,610	yellow tang which is bigger, used to bully it when i first put the scopas in (yellow was established) but doesnt bully as much. that's what i was thinking too that maybe the yellow tang shot it

06/03/2012, 02:27 AM	#8
supernareg Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,610	Lol!

05/12/2013, 09:02 PM	#11
Crush Coral Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 1,233	To me your tang looks very emaciated. Looks to me like he needs an improvement in his diet. Pics are not perfect but that is my opinion.

05/13/2013, 12:06 AM	#12
sczlars Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Santa Cruz, California Posts: 206	+1 .. looks really thin. Daily nori, get it eating NLS pellets or something like that to fatten that fish up.