Toadstool Leather Troubles

bnano · 11/02/2012, 05:07 PM

So I purchased a really nice toadstool leather from MASM frag swap in Michigan that looks like it could possibly be a green polyp toadstool but the person I purchased it from mentioned that they hadn't seen it polyp yet so we're guessing.

So I brought it home and it was beautiful for a total of....... not very long, maybe 2 hours. Since then I've been trying to make it happy but it only seems to get worse.

First is shriveled to a smaller size but started dimpling so I thought it was ok. The next day it looked worse so I moved it to a high flow and high light area of my tank based on some forum suggestions. It basically bent over completely towards neither the light nor the flow and the flow wasn't very strong so I was confused and moved it a little lower. Looked worse again and no dimpling in sight.

After a couple more days of the same action I am left with this:
He's back at the bottom since he basically is bent in half and cant seem to sit up.

My conditions are great, everything is right on the money except that I can't check my calcium but I'm sure it's just fine. I have a JBJ LED Professional but I don't have light timers yet and I'm a student. Do you think possibly slightly inconsistent lighting could be that much of an issue to tear a leather down like that?! What the heck is going on? Please help.

scapes · 11/04/2012, 09:55 PM

I wouldnsay give it some time. Its probably stressed from the move to the swap, move to your house, then youve moved it in your tank so many times. Leave it where it is amd watch for any decaying parts. If it starts to rot at the base u may want to consider fragging, but so far it may just be stressed

TL1000RSquid · 11/05/2012, 11:25 AM

In my experience Toadstools can be pretty sensitive taking upto a couple weeks to come around when moved into a new tank, get into some decent light and flow area and let it sit for awhile.

Lighting may throw it off a little but +/- 1 or 2 hours shouldn't be a big deal

skykingcory · 11/10/2012, 02:15 PM

I've never had success with leathers. Good to bad, good to bad, and then finally wilt away.

Seanthefish · 11/12/2012, 11:50 AM

Toadstools seem to be pretty hardy, ive cut mine literally in half before and it comes back. I would give it atleast a week before passing any judgement. If the trip was long it will take awhile to adjust, be patient!

Arc Drafter · 11/12/2012, 04:26 PM

As mentioned before leave it alone for awhile. Until it turns completely white and starts to "Melt" you are fine. I got a leather from a guy and it never came through and the day I decided to pull it from the tank i was trying to rub some crud off it it, and it seamed to melt away. Another toad stool i have was all wrinkled up like that for a few days and i just let it be and it started showing all its polyps -- Sadly 1 or 2 at a time. but eventually it came all the way back to normal. Even when a darn hermit crab walked all over it and stuff. they are cool I'd be patient with the little guy. As far is I know they should be bottom dwellers and low flow. the high light and high flow could have seriously irritated the guy.

moparcolt · 11/19/2012, 10:26 PM

Yeah, just give it time! I have them in my tank and they do stuff like that all the time. The change in water, possibly salt levels will throw them off for a week or two, but it should come around. It may even appear to shed on the top, they do that, dont worry.
Mine dont seem to like alot of light or too much flow, I would say, moderate.
They will climb toward the top of the tank sometimes but I dont think it is because the light is too dim, they are just climbers. I used to have them growing on the back wall of my 90 it was pretty cool

reef_of_flames · 11/20/2012, 01:17 PM

I agree. give it some time to adjust to its new environment. Did you light acclimate it? That could also be an issue- too much light all at once.

I have my toadstool in high light and moderate flow. Give it some time. I would place it in a low light and low flow area- just to minimize things that could stress it out even more.

kallan · 11/20/2012, 03:08 PM

I have the green polyped toadstool and it thrives up high in the tank with good flow. A few months ago, I pulled it off the rock it clung to because my bta decided that was her rock. Now the toadstool's tiny piece of tissue has regenerated another one right next to the bta again! They are gorgeous, but tend to be quite aggressive.

Arc Drafter · 12/04/2012, 01:56 PM

Any updates on the Toadstool?

11/20/2012, 01:17 PM	#8
reef_of_flames Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 527	I agree. give it some time to adjust to its new environment. Did you light acclimate it? That could also be an issue- too much light all at once. I have my toadstool in high light and moderate flow. Give it some time. I would place it in a low light and low flow area- just to minimize things that could stress it out even more. __________________ -Chris Previous tank: 90g 48"x18"x24" Mixed Reef Current tank: 6g Fluval Edge reef 10g FW community tank Current Tank Info: 6g Fluval Edge

11/04/2012, 09:55 PM	#2
scapes Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Millbrook, AL Posts: 2,520	I wouldnsay give it some time. Its probably stressed from the move to the swap, move to your house, then youve moved it in your tank so many times. Leave it where it is amd watch for any decaying parts. If it starts to rot at the base u may want to consider fragging, but so far it may just be stressed

11/05/2012, 11:25 AM	#3
TL1000RSquid Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY Posts: 423	In my experience Toadstools can be pretty sensitive taking upto a couple weeks to come around when moved into a new tank, get into some decent light and flow area and let it sit for awhile. Lighting may throw it off a little but +/- 1 or 2 hours shouldn't be a big deal

11/10/2012, 02:15 PM	#4
skykingcory Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portageville, MO Posts: 54	I've never had success with leathers. Good to bad, good to bad, and then finally wilt away.

11/12/2012, 11:50 AM	#5
Seanthefish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 59	Toadstools seem to be pretty hardy, ive cut mine literally in half before and it comes back. I would give it atleast a week before passing any judgement. If the trip was long it will take awhile to adjust, be patient!

11/12/2012, 04:26 PM	#6
Arc Drafter Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 228	As mentioned before leave it alone for awhile. Until it turns completely white and starts to "Melt" you are fine. I got a leather from a guy and it never came through and the day I decided to pull it from the tank i was trying to rub some crud off it it, and it seamed to melt away. Another toad stool i have was all wrinkled up like that for a few days and i just let it be and it started showing all its polyps -- Sadly 1 or 2 at a time. but eventually it came all the way back to normal. Even when a darn hermit crab walked all over it and stuff. they are cool I'd be patient with the little guy. As far is I know they should be bottom dwellers and low flow. the high light and high flow could have seriously irritated the guy.

11/19/2012, 10:26 PM	#7
moparcolt Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Huntsburg, Ohio Posts: 308	Yeah, just give it time! I have them in my tank and they do stuff like that all the time. The change in water, possibly salt levels will throw them off for a week or two, but it should come around. It may even appear to shed on the top, they do that, dont worry. Mine dont seem to like alot of light or too much flow, I would say, moderate. They will climb toward the top of the tank sometimes but I dont think it is because the light is too dim, they are just climbers. I used to have them growing on the back wall of my 90 it was pretty cool

11/20/2012, 03:08 PM	#9
kallan Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SW VA Posts: 95	I have the green polyped toadstool and it thrives up high in the tank with good flow. A few months ago, I pulled it off the rock it clung to because my bta decided that was her rock. Now the toadstool's tiny piece of tissue has regenerated another one right next to the bta again! They are gorgeous, but tend to be quite aggressive.

12/04/2012, 01:56 PM	#10
Arc Drafter Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 228	Any updates on the Toadstool?