please advise re: fiji mud and cloudy water

Rothaquatix · 11/12/2012, 08:26 PM

Recently i tore down and re designed my sump. My tank is 120 gallons and about 55 gallons of sump. I redesigned it due to not having a remote refugium that could be turned off, drained, and removed. I decided to run a manifold off my return pump with a gate valve and unions for flow adjustability and easy removing. So now that you have the info heres the problem. First off im a fan of fiji mud ive been using it for years with amazing results. So if your only advice is not to use this product please dont reply. Frankly its too late anyway. I used the same proceedure as i always do. First the mud goes inyo a dry fuge and then water is slowly dripped in much like a drip acclimation. Then once the fuge is full i wait for all the muck to settle and then then open the gate valve off the manifold to make it part of the system. Anyways this time all the muck stirred back up and has made my display black! Ok at this point many of you would say wait a few days and it will settle. Or to use filtrr socks. Well its been 3 weeks! No improvement. Ive gone thru 20 socks. The sediment is so fine it seems to penetrate the socks with ease. And anything that does get caught by the socks is released the seccond i attempt to change them. Anyone have some advice for me? Was contemplating using an old canister filter filled with filter media for a day then throwing it off a cliff lol. Seriously i have not seeked help in a long time please advise.

sirreal63 · 11/13/2012, 08:09 AM

Have you contacted Walt?

Rothaquatix · 11/14/2012, 01:27 AM

No whats done is done and needs a solution.

sirreal63 · 11/14/2012, 07:19 AM

Maybe my thinking is all messed up but I would go to the place that makes the product for a solution first as I would expect them to have the most experience with their own product. The sediment is very fine so only a very fine filter would remove it, perhaps a diatom filter as it will filter down to one micron.

jimmy frag · 11/14/2012, 07:25 AM

i guess its the same reason mud puddles are cloudy.

spieszak · 11/14/2012, 07:48 AM

maybe try a poly filter cut to fit into the bottom of the sock?

rbirling · 11/14/2012, 09:40 AM

If all else fails, you could do water changes. I would expect this to dilute the silt, same as any chemical issue.

If you had an extra tank around, you might be able to pump water through it very slowly as a settling tank. The silt probably isn't settling out because of high flow. If you could run it through another tank very slowly, it might settle out.

HTH

Craig Borowski · 11/14/2012, 11:47 AM

You may want to look into a flocculating agent. I think Seachem's Clarity is one example.

11/12/2012, 08:26 PM	#1
Rothaquatix Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West los angeles ca Posts: 136	please advise re: fiji mud and cloudy water Recently i tore down and re designed my sump. My tank is 120 gallons and about 55 gallons of sump. I redesigned it due to not having a remote refugium that could be turned off, drained, and removed. I decided to run a manifold off my return pump with a gate valve and unions for flow adjustability and easy removing. So now that you have the info heres the problem. First off im a fan of fiji mud ive been using it for years with amazing results. So if your only advice is not to use this product please dont reply. Frankly its too late anyway. I used the same proceedure as i always do. First the mud goes inyo a dry fuge and then water is slowly dripped in much like a drip acclimation. Then once the fuge is full i wait for all the muck to settle and then then open the gate valve off the manifold to make it part of the system. Anyways this time all the muck stirred back up and has made my display black! Ok at this point many of you would say wait a few days and it will settle. Or to use filtrr socks. Well its been 3 weeks! No improvement. Ive gone thru 20 socks. The sediment is so fine it seems to penetrate the socks with ease. And anything that does get caught by the socks is released the seccond i attempt to change them. Anyone have some advice for me? Was contemplating using an old canister filter filled with filter media for a day then throwing it off a cliff lol. Seriously i have not seeked help in a long time please advise.

11/13/2012, 08:09 AM	#2
sirreal63 Go Spurs Go!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Meadowlakes Texas Posts: 13,357	Have you contacted Walt? __________________ Jack No One has ever been seriously injured by using the search function. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. Current Tank Info: Reefing the Pentagon.

11/14/2012, 07:19 AM	#4
sirreal63 Go Spurs Go!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Meadowlakes Texas Posts: 13,357	Maybe my thinking is all messed up but I would go to the place that makes the product for a solution first as I would expect them to have the most experience with their own product. The sediment is very fine so only a very fine filter would remove it, perhaps a diatom filter as it will filter down to one micron. __________________ Jack No One has ever been seriously injured by using the search function. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. Current Tank Info: Reefing the Pentagon.

11/14/2012, 07:48 AM	#6
spieszak Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,877	maybe try a poly filter cut to fit into the bottom of the sock? __________________ I'm new to this saltwater thing, all comments should be taken with a BUCKET of salt! :-) -Stacey

11/14/2012, 09:40 AM	#7
rbirling Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 119	If all else fails, you could do water changes. I would expect this to dilute the silt, same as any chemical issue. If you had an extra tank around, you might be able to pump water through it very slowly as a settling tank. The silt probably isn't settling out because of high flow. If you could run it through another tank very slowly, it might settle out. HTH __________________ -- Bob

11/14/2012, 01:27 AM	#3
Rothaquatix Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West los angeles ca Posts: 136	No whats done is done and needs a solution.

11/14/2012, 07:25 AM	#5
jimmy frag Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: burlington ontario Posts: 845	i guess its the same reason mud puddles are cloudy.

11/14/2012, 11:47 AM	#8
Craig Borowski RC Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 492	You may want to look into a flocculating agent. I think Seachem's Clarity is one example.