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Unread 12/31/2012, 01:11 AM   #1
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What substrate do you use and why?

I wanted to get a better understanding of what substrate is being used for reef tanks and why you use that particular substrate.... i am about to begin my 300 gallon and of course i will not be making the same rookie errors as i did on my first tank.


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Unread 12/31/2012, 08:00 AM   #2
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I use special grade reef sand in my 120 for a shallow bed. It is small enough grain size to look good, large enough to stay in place in the flow, for the most part. It is also easy to siphon and keep clean during water changes. The sand stays in the tank when siphoning and only the detritus comes out.

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Unread 12/31/2012, 08:57 AM   #3
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Glass

Because it's easier to export and control waste and I like the look of a bottom covered in zoo's and LPS


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Unread 12/31/2012, 09:56 AM   #4
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I would go with a reef grade sand. If you go with oolitic sand, it will likely get blown around by your powerheads. Some people make it work though. Just whatever you do, do not get crushed coral as a substrate. Although I'd be surprised if stores even sold that stuff anymore. I personally use Tropic Eden Reef Flakes. It is the whitest, cleanest sand I've ever used. Highly recommended! The Caribsea special grade reef is also a popular choice for sure.


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Unread 12/31/2012, 09:58 AM   #5
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I use special grade reef sand in my 120 for a shallow bed. It is small enough grain size to look good, large enough to stay in place in the flow, for the most part. It is also easy to siphon and keep clean during water changes. The sand stays in the tank when siphoning and only the detritus comes out.

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Unread 12/31/2012, 10:21 AM   #6
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Tropic eden reef flakes in various sizes and seaflor special grade. Tops.


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Unread 12/31/2012, 10:52 AM   #7
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Aragonite, after having a BB for awhile. It's large enough grains don't blow around too much, yet small enough for my frags and livestock to appreciate it.


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Unread 12/31/2012, 12:32 PM   #8
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Shallow crushed coral. Corals can grow and attach to it and it won't blow around. Also easy to clean while doing water changes an it gets coralline algae on it.


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Unread 12/31/2012, 01:42 PM   #9
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Just whatever you do, do not get crushed coral as a substrate. Although I'd be surprised if stores even sold that stuff anymore.
Ha! That's all my LFS sells! He has tons of it. Talked me out of sand and into crushed coral. I hate 'em for that. Just changed it out a couple of weeks ago for the special grade reef sand. Much better.

I wish I had gone a with finer sand, but I'd probably be *****ing about sand storms now.


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Unread 12/31/2012, 09:45 PM   #10
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I highly recommend any of the Tropic Eden substrates--beautiful, natural looking, and very, very clean. I use Grand Select because the larger grain size stands up well against the very high flow in my tank. It's approximately the same size as "crushed coral" but without its drawbacks.


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Unread 12/31/2012, 09:57 PM   #11
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Another vote for CaribSea SeaFlor Special Grade for the reasons already mentioned.


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Unread 01/01/2013, 07:48 AM   #12
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Thanks for the replies guys...much appreciated.


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Unread 01/01/2013, 08:11 AM   #13
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If you believe in the principals set forth in this article:

http://www.ronshimek.com/deep_sand_beds.html

This would be the "appropriate" sized grains:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...21&pcatid=7321


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Unread 01/25/2013, 12:40 AM   #14
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If you believe in the principals set forth in this article:

http://www.ronshimek.com/deep_sand_beds.html

This would be the "appropriate" sized grains:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...21&pcatid=7321
That was an excellent read. I can't imagine using a sand bed any other way, except possibly when using a ZeoVit type approach to tank maintenance.

Thanks for the info. I want to say I read that article about 10 years ago back in high school when I was running a 90G Reef. It is articles like this that help me better understand why my beautiful tank finally hit a wall. It was as if my tank was slowly on decline and I couldn't bring it back. I finally called it quits when college was around the corner but now I'm back.

It always helps to gain more perspective about all the different and successful methods of maintaing a healthy aquarium.

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Unread 01/25/2013, 07:42 AM   #15
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I like this:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...id=16764&r=816

I like the CaribSea Original Substrate... Much better. I had my LFS order it for me as to not pay almost double the price just for shipping... hahaha

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Fine Oolite Substrate



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Unread 01/25/2013, 08:49 AM   #16
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Two of the 40# bags of this from F&S gets you free shipping.


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Unread 01/25/2013, 09:07 AM   #17
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Two of the 40# bags of this from F&S gets you free shipping.
But is it??

BRS has it cheaper.. but you end up paying for it in shipping.


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Unread 01/25/2013, 09:30 AM   #18
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Anything over $49 at F&S is free shipping weight doesn't matter.


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Unread 01/25/2013, 11:05 AM   #19
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FSB-Faux Sand Bed.

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Unread 01/25/2013, 11:11 AM   #20
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(no sand bed)


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Unread 01/25/2013, 11:13 AM   #21
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I use a combination of tropic eden reef flakes and mini flakes. About 3 parts reef flakes to 1 part mini flakes. I had sugar fine sand before and it was the biggest mistake I've made in this hobby to date over the past two years. It blew all over and covered up corals and killed them.


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Unread 01/25/2013, 11:22 AM   #22
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I would do 1/3 crushed coral and 2/3 arognite
crushed coral keeps your ph in tack


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Unread 01/25/2013, 11:28 AM   #23
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Tropic Eden Aragasnow for me. Wonderful sand and I think the sand hermits appreciate it. My MP40 luckily does not blow it around, the sand has been moved around though forming small hills around the tank.

I might start siphoning it out with water changes in a year+ or so, to use the glass bottom to make a carpet of zoas and such.


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Unread 01/25/2013, 01:37 PM   #24
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I have had the best luck with the Original Grade Substrate. Snails and stuff can get moving in it.

I put the oolite in my sump. Slow flow so it will not go everywhere.


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Unread 01/25/2013, 01:42 PM   #25
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I use dolomite gravel because it works with my under gravel filter.


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