is this red slime?

richiero · 02/01/2013, 06:34 PM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtwepyvdd0jad3j/00037.MTS

Thanks for any help..

EllieSuz · 02/01/2013, 06:47 PM

Looks more like diatoms to me. Very common in new set-ups and it will pass of its own accord if you can be patient. Cyano comes in several colors, but a dark maroon red is the most common.

keithhays · 02/01/2013, 06:51 PM

I agree it looks like diatoms, its a good indication that your snails are eating it.
They wouldn't be eating cyano (red slime).

thebkramer · 02/01/2013, 06:51 PM

+1 looks like diatoms to me too

richiero · 02/01/2013, 06:59 PM

Thank you , the tank has been up for 6 months

Ph 8.25
Temo 77.5
Po4 0
No2 0
No3 .5
Ammonia 0

Whats the slimey lookimg stuff on the rock by the mp10?

keithhays · 02/01/2013, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richiero

Thank you , the tank has been up for 6 months

Ph 8.25
Temo 77.5
Po4 0
No2 0
No3 .5
Ammonia 0

Whats the slimy looking stuff on the rock by the mp10?

If yo mean the long stringy stuff, its hard to tell from the video, we might need a still of the area you mean.

keithhays · 02/01/2013, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richiero

Thank you , the tank has been up for 6 months

Ph 8.25
Temo 77.5
Po4 0
No2 0
No3 .5
Ammonia 0

Whats the slimey lookimg stuff on the rock by the mp10?

btw, your temp seems a tad low, though not out of bounds.

richiero · 02/02/2013, 09:38 AM

ok i will to get a still pic here

richiero · 02/02/2013, 09:53 AM

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...ZQSRKoYSppwvZA

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...v_vnnPnhx_j_Xg

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...HtHlUkmP7ZfiMg

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...4tQBbU295RBQ4Q

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...otG8gxEfweY7oQ

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...eaoyesojkxayTg

richiero · 02/02/2013, 09:53 AM

let me know if these pics are good.

EllieSuz · 02/02/2013, 09:55 AM

Dropbox won't let me see these. Maybe you need a Photobucket account.

richiero · 02/02/2013, 10:01 AM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_...k/DSC01464.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...k/DSC01469.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...k/DSC01463.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...k/DSC01465.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n...k/DSC01467.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--...k/DSC01468.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...k/DSC01469.JPG

https://plus.google.com/photos/10315...Nr4qsX4xt3x4wE

keithhays · 02/02/2013, 10:36 AM

It does appear to be filamentous and its is slimy looking. It looks like you have yourself a case of cyanobacteria. This will mean that your nitrate and maybe your phosphate numbers are not really showing you how much of either are in play because the bacteria are consuming it. Co2 will also have to be gotten rid of.

1. Start running GFO or start running more of it in a reactor
2. Start using Kalk to eliminate Co2 and elevate PH
3. If don't have anything in the tank that needs lights, turn them off until its all gone.
4. Increase the frequency of your water changes and/or skim wetter with your protein skimmer

1, 2, and 4 should be permanent. Then go buy chemiclean and follow the instructions. When done return to doing 1, 2, and 4.

richiero · 02/02/2013, 10:48 AM

Ok right now i am running gfo i will add more. I do water changes every week , 10 gallons i only have a 75g tank. How are my nitrates so bad i only have 4 fish and dont over feed. My skimmer is rated for 150 gallons i thought 8.3 was good for ph. And how do you use kalk ? Thanks for your help

richiero · 02/02/2013, 11:09 AM

I shut my white leds off and leff my royal blue on should i shut does also? I can even just leave a strip on with only blue and green and u/v light .

keithhays · 02/02/2013, 11:16 AM

kalk is mixed at about 3/4tsp per liter(quart). Some people use more, but that is about all I can get dissolved in that amount of water. It is normally dosed via an automatic top off system as your make up water as water evaporates from your tank.

The reason for the slightly elevated PH (maybe 8.4 in your case) is purely because we want to strip Co2 out of the water which is the preferred uptake of cyanobacteria and we want to use kalk to do it. The PH will give us an indicator that we are doing that.

When you are mixing kalk (pickling lime) or the pure stuff from BRS, don't get it on your hands it has a PH of about 12 and will burn your hands. Mix as little as possible without pulling bubbles into the water and don't use a pump for mixing. Over mixing will cause kalk to pull Co2 out of the air instead of out of your water making it useless for our use here.

I am currently running a little over 300 gallons with 2 clown fish (just about to start stocking), if I weren't carbon dosing, the system would stabilize at about 50ppm nitrate and that is with constant water changes totaling 50% per month. The increased water changes will do nothing or at least very little for the nitrate issue, it is because we are about to kill off a lot of cyano and we want to get the results of it out of the the aquarium as quickly as we can.

richiero · 02/02/2013, 01:07 PM

ok i have to buy some kalk

richiero · 02/02/2013, 01:08 PM

can i leave the royal blues on and just kill the whites for about three days?

02/01/2013, 06:34 PM	#1
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	is this red slime? https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtwepyvdd0jad3j/00037.MTS Thanks for any help..

02/01/2013, 06:47 PM	#2
EllieSuz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,858	Looks more like diatoms to me. Very common in new set-ups and it will pass of its own accord if you can be patient. Cyano comes in several colors, but a dark maroon red is the most common. __________________ "You can't learn this hobby one question at a time." (Mr. Tuskfish) Eileen Current Tank Info: I'm out of the hobby, but used to have a60 gal. reef, refugium in sump, Internal Mag 9 return, SC 302 skimmer, two Maxi-Jet 1200's modded, four bulb T5 Lighting, Reefkeeper Lite Controller with three PC4's, Little Fishes GFO reactor.

02/01/2013, 06:51 PM	#4
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	+1 looks like diatoms to me too __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

02/02/2013, 09:55 AM	#11
EllieSuz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,858	Dropbox won't let me see these. Maybe you need a Photobucket account. __________________ "You can't learn this hobby one question at a time." (Mr. Tuskfish) Eileen Current Tank Info: I'm out of the hobby, but used to have a60 gal. reef, refugium in sump, Internal Mag 9 return, SC 302 skimmer, two Maxi-Jet 1200's modded, four bulb T5 Lighting, Reefkeeper Lite Controller with three PC4's, Little Fishes GFO reactor.

02/02/2013, 11:16 AM	#16
keithhays Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,259	kalk is mixed at about 3/4tsp per liter(quart). Some people use more, but that is about all I can get dissolved in that amount of water. It is normally dosed via an automatic top off system as your make up water as water evaporates from your tank. The reason for the slightly elevated PH (maybe 8.4 in your case) is purely because we want to strip Co2 out of the water which is the preferred uptake of cyanobacteria and we want to use kalk to do it. The PH will give us an indicator that we are doing that. When you are mixing kalk (pickling lime) or the pure stuff from BRS, don't get it on your hands it has a PH of about 12 and will burn your hands. Mix as little as possible without pulling bubbles into the water and don't use a pump for mixing. Over mixing will cause kalk to pull Co2 out of the air instead of out of your water making it useless for our use here. I am currently running a little over 300 gallons with 2 clown fish (just about to start stocking), if I weren't carbon dosing, the system would stabilize at about 50ppm nitrate and that is with constant water changes totaling 50% per month. The increased water changes will do nothing or at least very little for the nitrate issue, it is because we are about to kill off a lot of cyano and we want to get the results of it out of the the aquarium as quickly as we can. Last edited by keithhays; 02/02/2013 at 11:21 AM.

02/01/2013, 06:59 PM	#5
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	Thank you , the tank has been up for 6 months Ph 8.25 Temo 77.5 Po4 0 No2 0 No3 .5 Ammonia 0 Whats the slimey lookimg stuff on the rock by the mp10?

02/02/2013, 09:38 AM	#8
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	ok i will to get a still pic here

02/02/2013, 09:53 AM	#9
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...ZQSRKoYSppwvZA https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...v_vnnPnhx_j_Xg https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...HtHlUkmP7ZfiMg https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...4tQBbU295RBQ4Q https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...otG8gxEfweY7oQ https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/DSC01...eaoyesojkxayTg

02/02/2013, 10:01 AM	#12
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_...k/DSC01464.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...k/DSC01469.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-K...k/DSC01463.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...k/DSC01465.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n...k/DSC01467.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--...k/DSC01468.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...k/DSC01469.JPG https://plus.google.com/photos/10315...Nr4qsX4xt3x4wE

02/02/2013, 10:36 AM	#13
keithhays Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,259	It does appear to be filamentous and its is slimy looking. It looks like you have yourself a case of cyanobacteria. This will mean that your nitrate and maybe your phosphate numbers are not really showing you how much of either are in play because the bacteria are consuming it. Co2 will also have to be gotten rid of. 1. Start running GFO or start running more of it in a reactor 2. Start using Kalk to eliminate Co2 and elevate PH 3. If don't have anything in the tank that needs lights, turn them off until its all gone. 4. Increase the frequency of your water changes and/or skim wetter with your protein skimmer 1, 2, and 4 should be permanent. Then go buy chemiclean and follow the instructions. When done return to doing 1, 2, and 4.

02/02/2013, 10:48 AM	#14
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	Ok right now i am running gfo i will add more. I do water changes every week , 10 gallons i only have a 75g tank. How are my nitrates so bad i only have 4 fish and dont over feed. My skimmer is rated for 150 gallons i thought 8.3 was good for ph. And how do you use kalk ? Thanks for your help

02/02/2013, 11:09 AM	#15
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	I shut my white leds off and leff my royal blue on should i shut does also? I can even just leave a strip on with only blue and green and u/v light .

02/02/2013, 01:07 PM	#17
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	ok i have to buy some kalk

02/02/2013, 01:08 PM	#18
richiero Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 383	can i leave the royal blues on and just kill the whites for about three days?