Beckett/Eductor SKimmers

Psionicdragon · 03/28/2013, 12:45 PM

Are these skimmers still good? Does one still need high psi pumps or can it be run on like the DC 10000 or Rios, etc?

Allmost · 03/28/2013, 12:47 PM

amount of air injected is proportional to the flow of water, so yes you need a high pressure pump.

Psionicdragon · 03/28/2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Allmost

amount of air injected is proportional to the flow of water, so yes you need a high pressure pump.

So if it is based on the flow of water, wouldn't a non high pressure 2640 GPH pump work?

I never had one of these skimmers and deciding if I should build one.

Allmost · 03/28/2013, 12:55 PM

"work" is too general.

which skimmer are you looking at ? they have recommendations.

if you use smaller pump, it will pull in less air, and it will skimm less.

Psionicdragon · 03/28/2013, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allmost

"work" is too general.

which skimmer are you looking at ? they have recommendations.

if you use smaller pump, it will pull in less air, and it will skimm less.

None atm. I was thinking of doing a DIY.

But something like this with an Eductor instead of Beckett.

http://www.myreefcreations.com/produ...mers/mr-2.html

Allmost · 03/28/2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Psionicdragon

None atm. I was thinking of doing a DIY.

But something like this with an Eductor instead of Beckett.

http://www.myreefcreations.com/produ...mers/mr-2.html

same thing

Recommended Pump

BL-55 HD

Psionicdragon · 03/28/2013, 01:06 PM

I was thinking about using a Waveline DC10000 Pump. Its currently plug as my main and was planning to T it off to the skimmer.

sirreal63 · 03/28/2013, 01:10 PM

Downdraft skimmers are usually a little easier on pump requirements than a Beckett. What size tank is this on?

Psionicdragon · 03/28/2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sirreal63

Downdraft skimmers are usually a little easier on pump requirements than a Beckett. What size tank is this on?

90-125. Maybe upgrading soon

sirreal63 · 03/28/2013, 01:48 PM

ETSS downdraft skimmers are not a bad option, the Sump Buddy or Reef Devil would be more than enough. You would be able to use your return pump but it would be a balancing act. Neither of the two above require a pressure rated pump like a Beckett or injection would. Yes you can run a Beckett or injection with a non-pressure rated pump but you sacrifice getting the most out of the skimmer and isn't worth it.
http://www.superskimmer.com/Protein%20Skimmers.htm

I still prefer a needle wheel driven recirc skimmer but that is just a preference.

bayoupr · 03/28/2013, 02:34 PM

I tried the DC10000 pump on a Life Reef VS3 48" and it didn't work like I though. I relize this is a Venturi skimmer but not enough pressure through the venturi to get decent air draw into the skimmer. Changed it out to an Iwaki 55 and works much better. Like the posters above this might work with an ETSS downdraft skimmer.

Psionicdragon · 03/28/2013, 02:51 PM

Are these type of skimmers still efficient ?

Allmost · 03/28/2013, 02:59 PM

efficient in terms of electricity ? NOPE.
but they do add more air to water ... when used with the correct pump.

you can make a DIY skimmer with a needle wheel, then you can use a low power pump to run it.

viggen · 03/28/2013, 03:06 PM

Many claim on smaller tanks needle wheel, pinwheel etc are a more economical choice due to being able to get by with a single small and efficient pump.

If it was me I would buy a used needle wheel skimmer, for what it costs to make one for similar money or slightly more you can get something used......

Psionicdragon · 03/28/2013, 03:22 PM

I do have NWs. I am currently using an ATI BM 160. I just to try something different and fun.

03/28/2013, 12:45 PM	#1
Psionicdragon Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 3,727	Beckett/Eductor SKimmers Are these skimmers still good? Does one still need high psi pumps or can it be run on like the DC 10000 or Rios, etc? __________________ Economy sucks bad! Lets pray for the best! in the meantime, liquidation!

03/28/2013, 01:06 PM	#7
Psionicdragon Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 3,727	I was thinking about using a Waveline DC10000 Pump. Its currently plug as my main and was planning to T it off to the skimmer. __________________ Economy sucks bad! Lets pray for the best! in the meantime, liquidation!

03/28/2013, 01:10 PM	#8
sirreal63 Go Spurs Go!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Meadowlakes Texas Posts: 13,357	Downdraft skimmers are usually a little easier on pump requirements than a Beckett. What size tank is this on? __________________ Jack No One has ever been seriously injured by using the search function. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. Current Tank Info: Reefing the Pentagon.

03/28/2013, 01:48 PM	#10
sirreal63 Go Spurs Go!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Meadowlakes Texas Posts: 13,357	ETSS downdraft skimmers are not a bad option, the Sump Buddy or Reef Devil would be more than enough. You would be able to use your return pump but it would be a balancing act. Neither of the two above require a pressure rated pump like a Beckett or injection would. Yes you can run a Beckett or injection with a non-pressure rated pump but you sacrifice getting the most out of the skimmer and isn't worth it. http://www.superskimmer.com/Protein%20Skimmers.htm I still prefer a needle wheel driven recirc skimmer but that is just a preference. __________________ Jack No One has ever been seriously injured by using the search function. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. Current Tank Info: Reefing the Pentagon.

03/28/2013, 02:51 PM	#12
Psionicdragon Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 3,727	Are these type of skimmers still efficient ? __________________ Economy sucks bad! Lets pray for the best! in the meantime, liquidation!

03/28/2013, 12:47 PM	#2
Allmost Moved On Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: canada, toronto Posts: 8,161	amount of air injected is proportional to the flow of water, so yes you need a high pressure pump.

03/28/2013, 12:55 PM	#4
Allmost Moved On Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: canada, toronto Posts: 8,161	"work" is too general. which skimmer are you looking at ? they have recommendations. if you use smaller pump, it will pull in less air, and it will skimm less.

03/28/2013, 02:34 PM	#11
bayoupr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,308	I tried the DC10000 pump on a Life Reef VS3 48" and it didn't work like I though. I relize this is a Venturi skimmer but not enough pressure through the venturi to get decent air draw into the skimmer. Changed it out to an Iwaki 55 and works much better. Like the posters above this might work with an ETSS downdraft skimmer.

03/28/2013, 02:59 PM	#13
Allmost Moved On Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: canada, toronto Posts: 8,161	efficient in terms of electricity ? NOPE. but they do add more air to water ... when used with the correct pump. you can make a DIY skimmer with a needle wheel, then you can use a low power pump to run it.

03/28/2013, 03:06 PM	#14
viggen Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 2,213	Many claim on smaller tanks needle wheel, pinwheel etc are a more economical choice due to being able to get by with a single small and efficient pump. If it was me I would buy a used needle wheel skimmer, for what it costs to make one for similar money or slightly more you can get something used...... __________________ A tub of fish

03/28/2013, 03:22 PM	#15
Psionicdragon Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 3,727	I do have NWs. I am currently using an ATI BM 160. I just to try something different and fun. __________________ Economy sucks bad! Lets pray for the best! in the meantime, liquidation!