which dc pump

110galreef · 03/30/2013, 06:00 PM

Looking at the 10k models....

Diablo, waveline or speedwave (think its the same as waveline?)

Is the $70 price increase worth the diablo?
Seem about same flow head and watt draw.
Are they all about same loudness?

Epicreefer · 03/30/2013, 06:15 PM

I've heard they are all the same just under different names. Look at the controller, it's identical. From what I read they are good for internal pumps but the quality of plastic/ risk of a crack and the sealing methods make them unacceptable as external pumps. From those reviews I decided to go with blowhole pumps on my next tank instead and may make them my go to pump if trials go well due to versatility.

110galreef · 03/31/2013, 03:06 PM

these will be used in sump, so not to concerened about plumbing externally.
Any one else have input on these?

sirreal63 · 03/31/2013, 03:40 PM

I am playing with a Waveline DC3000 skimmer pump. It is a good little pump, very quiet and good flow. I couldn't decide between the Diablo or the RLSS, CoralVue decided to not rely to a single question about the pump, not when it would be available or anything, which is unusual since they have always replied instantly with information. I decided to use the RLSS Waveline instead, and for that reason I would suggest the Waveline. I don't buy from companies who fail to respond to questions.

Since all three of these are basically the same thing, go with the company that will be there before and after the sale. RLSS and Salty Supply did just that. It makes no sense to pay more for a different label on the same thing.

RLSS · 04/10/2013, 10:05 PM

The pumps are not identical, there has been an attempt to make them appear that way, however they are not the same product. On our waveline pump the "pump side" bolts into the "motor side" with 4 titanium set screws. The other pumps bayonet into place via a friction fit. The impeller mid plate is different along with the centring points for the impeller assembly. There are many differences when comparing these pumps to one another, these are just two examples. We can all agree they are similar, just not the same.

03/30/2013, 06:00 PM	#1
110galreef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 2,466	which dc pump Looking at the 10k models.... Diablo, waveline or speedwave (think its the same as waveline?) Is the $70 price increase worth the diablo? Seem about same flow head and watt draw. Are they all about same loudness? __________________ Inwall Basement Setup w/ Growout Tank & Common Acrylic sump, SRO XP3000E, Neptune Apex, Bubble Magus Triple Doser, CLS- Super Dart Gold + OM 4way, 2-400w MH & 4-80w T-5, ROX .08 carbon...

03/30/2013, 06:15 PM	#2
Epicreefer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 238	I've heard they are all the same just under different names. Look at the controller, it's identical. From what I read they are good for internal pumps but the quality of plastic/ risk of a crack and the sealing methods make them unacceptable as external pumps. From those reviews I decided to go with blowhole pumps on my next tank instead and may make them my go to pump if trials go well due to versatility. __________________ Aquatic systems supervisor, somewhere around 100k gal. Current Tank Info: 40g breeder sps

03/31/2013, 03:06 PM	#3
110galreef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 2,466	these will be used in sump, so not to concerened about plumbing externally. Any one else have input on these? __________________ Inwall Basement Setup w/ Growout Tank & Common Acrylic sump, SRO XP3000E, Neptune Apex, Bubble Magus Triple Doser, CLS- Super Dart Gold + OM 4way, 2-400w MH & 4-80w T-5, ROX .08 carbon...

03/31/2013, 03:40 PM	#4
sirreal63 Go Spurs Go!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Meadowlakes Texas Posts: 13,357	I am playing with a Waveline DC3000 skimmer pump. It is a good little pump, very quiet and good flow. I couldn't decide between the Diablo or the RLSS, CoralVue decided to not rely to a single question about the pump, not when it would be available or anything, which is unusual since they have always replied instantly with information. I decided to use the RLSS Waveline instead, and for that reason I would suggest the Waveline. I don't buy from companies who fail to respond to questions. Since all three of these are basically the same thing, go with the company that will be there before and after the sale. RLSS and Salty Supply did just that. It makes no sense to pay more for a different label on the same thing. __________________ Jack No One has ever been seriously injured by using the search function. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. Current Tank Info: Reefing the Pentagon.

04/10/2013, 10:05 PM	#5
RLSS Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16	The pumps are not identical, there has been an attempt to make them appear that way, however they are not the same product. On our waveline pump the "pump side" bolts into the "motor side" with 4 titanium set screws. The other pumps bayonet into place via a friction fit. The impeller mid plate is different along with the centring points for the impeller assembly. There are many differences when comparing these pumps to one another, these are just two examples. We can all agree they are similar, just not the same. __________________ Adam@RLSS