Reducing noise

Eric Noa · 04/23/2013, 06:09 PM

Hey guys I got a quick question. Just finished plumbing my 90 gallon and Im wondering how I can reduce the noise of the water going down and splashing into the sump/fuge. My tank has one drain and I have it split with a T and one end goes to the sump where the skimmer is and the other goes into the fuge. Both ends have ball valves and I did close them a little and it seem to reduce the noise but Im looking for a way to reduce it a little bit more but I don't want to close ball valve too much and then cause the tank to overflow.

djp2313 · 04/23/2013, 06:33 PM

Look into beananimal or herbie style overflows.

Possibly a durso standpipe for the sump if that's the only part that is bothering you. Would be the easier fix to try first.

phxreefer · 04/23/2013, 06:45 PM

+1 on this ^^^^. The herbie or beananimal is the way to go. I just redid my 40b to a herbie amd will never go back. The loudest item on that tank now is a mj1200. I didn't realize just how loud the drain was until i changed it and could hear the other equipment running.

Eric Noa · 04/23/2013, 07:33 PM

The tank has a durso stand pipe and I just finished setting this up so the beananimal overflow would be for the next build lol.

djp2313 · 04/23/2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Noa

The tank has a durso stand pipe and I just finished setting this up so the beananimal overflow would be for the next build lol.

Is the durso into the sump though?

You have the durso in the overflow but you can also make essentially a durso for the sump. Same principle just applied differently.

Eric Noa · 04/23/2013, 07:50 PM

No in the sump theres just a pipe that is cut at an angle at the bottom plus it has multiple holes drilled.

Could adjusting the flow of the return pump maybe solve this problem? I have a Syncra 4.0 as my return pump. Its a little under 1000 gph at 0 head and I have a about 6 feet of head.

Lucky1s · 04/23/2013, 08:19 PM

Not trying to high jack by any means but my overflow just started to get real loud. The tanks has been going for three months without issues and then the noise started last week.

Just sounds like loud gurgling coming down the return tube.

tanked37 · 04/23/2013, 08:52 PM

I wouldn't close off the drain to lower the noise. Try to run has much flow as you can. Anyway, there is always going to be some noise, but I would just get the drain to the sump to go below the water line (eliminates splashing) with an extra piece of PVC just loose fitted into the drain. Also, not teeing off your drain would probably help (ie not having two lines splashing into sump). Why isn't the one drain just all going to the sump where the skimmer is in stage 1?

sasharotty · 04/23/2013, 09:03 PM

Is the drain submerged or straight down above the water line? You shouldnt have valves on the drains only the return side so you can throttle that back. Essentially running less water through the sump which is a good thing and decreasing noise. Also i wouldnt tee off the drain into the fuge if you have sand or mud. It will accumulate and start producing nitrates. My fuge is last in line before returning to the tank and chaeto still grows like crazy.

SweetTang · 04/23/2013, 09:20 PM

Also, after a few weeks of running, the pipes will develop a slime coat on the inside that will help with the noise as it goes down the pipes.

Larz_1 · 04/23/2013, 09:24 PM

I built one of these for my external overflow box .... after some fine tuning it is silent as can be.

Hofer Gurgle Buster
http://home.everestkc.net/jrobertson...HGB/index.html

Eric Noa · 04/24/2013, 07:39 AM

I have the drain pipe T off because one end goes to the skimmer and the other goes to the fuge. I will not be using a sand bed at least for now it'll just be chaeto. I've seen other setups where they have ball valves in the drain. I'll add a ball valve to my return pump and open up the drains and just adjust the flow of the return and see if that helps.

mikedoyle · 04/24/2013, 09:19 AM

To quite my tank I ran the overflow piping below the water line which helped alot

E Rosewater · 04/24/2013, 09:25 AM

^+1, submerge the drain line if it's the splashing that's getting to you.

Eric Noa · 04/24/2013, 11:41 AM

The pipe is below the water line... I was able to reduce the gurgling sound and the splashing by adding a ball valve to the return pump and controlling the flow.

djp2313 · 04/24/2013, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Noa

The pipe is below the water line... I was able to reduce the gurgling sound and the splashing by adding a ball valve to the return pump and controlling the flow.

Glad you got it figured out, sorry I couldn't be of more help

Eric Noa · 04/24/2013, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djp2313

Glad you got it figured out, sorry I couldn't be of more help

Thanks and don't worry about it lol it's cool, everyone helped

04/23/2013, 06:09 PM	#1
Eric Noa Moved On Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 782	Reducing noise Hey guys I got a quick question. Just finished plumbing my 90 gallon and Im wondering how I can reduce the noise of the water going down and splashing into the sump/fuge. My tank has one drain and I have it split with a T and one end goes to the sump where the skimmer is and the other goes into the fuge. Both ends have ball valves and I did close them a little and it seem to reduce the noise but Im looking for a way to reduce it a little bit more but I don't want to close ball valve too much and then cause the tank to overflow.

04/23/2013, 09:03 PM	#9
sasharotty Moved on to my couch Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: se michigan Posts: 1,065	Is the drain submerged or straight down above the water line? You shouldnt have valves on the drains only the return side so you can throttle that back. Essentially running less water through the sump which is a good thing and decreasing noise. Also i wouldnt tee off the drain into the fuge if you have sand or mud. It will accumulate and start producing nitrates. My fuge is last in line before returning to the tank and chaeto still grows like crazy. __________________ Go big or go home!!!! Current Tank Info: Just loungin

04/23/2013, 06:33 PM	#2
djp2313 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 75	Look into beananimal or herbie style overflows. Possibly a durso standpipe for the sump if that's the only part that is bothering you. Would be the easier fix to try first.

04/23/2013, 06:45 PM	#3
phxreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 146	+1 on this ^^^^. The herbie or beananimal is the way to go. I just redid my 40b to a herbie amd will never go back. The loudest item on that tank now is a mj1200. I didn't realize just how loud the drain was until i changed it and could hear the other equipment running.

04/23/2013, 07:33 PM	#4
Eric Noa Moved On Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 782	The tank has a durso stand pipe and I just finished setting this up so the beananimal overflow would be for the next build lol.

04/23/2013, 07:50 PM	#6
Eric Noa Moved On Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 782	No in the sump theres just a pipe that is cut at an angle at the bottom plus it has multiple holes drilled. Could adjusting the flow of the return pump maybe solve this problem? I have a Syncra 4.0 as my return pump. Its a little under 1000 gph at 0 head and I have a about 6 feet of head.

04/23/2013, 08:19 PM	#7
Lucky1s Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 61	Not trying to high jack by any means but my overflow just started to get real loud. The tanks has been going for three months without issues and then the noise started last week. Just sounds like loud gurgling coming down the return tube.

04/23/2013, 08:52 PM	#8
tanked37 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 262	I wouldn't close off the drain to lower the noise. Try to run has much flow as you can. Anyway, there is always going to be some noise, but I would just get the drain to the sump to go below the water line (eliminates splashing) with an extra piece of PVC just loose fitted into the drain. Also, not teeing off your drain would probably help (ie not having two lines splashing into sump). Why isn't the one drain just all going to the sump where the skimmer is in stage 1?

04/23/2013, 09:20 PM	#10
SweetTang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 198	Also, after a few weeks of running, the pipes will develop a slime coat on the inside that will help with the noise as it goes down the pipes.

04/23/2013, 09:24 PM	#11
Larz_1 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 182	I built one of these for my external overflow box .... after some fine tuning it is silent as can be. Hofer Gurgle Buster http://home.everestkc.net/jrobertson...HGB/index.html

04/24/2013, 07:39 AM	#12
Eric Noa Moved On Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 782	I have the drain pipe T off because one end goes to the skimmer and the other goes to the fuge. I will not be using a sand bed at least for now it'll just be chaeto. I've seen other setups where they have ball valves in the drain. I'll add a ball valve to my return pump and open up the drains and just adjust the flow of the return and see if that helps.

04/24/2013, 09:19 AM	#13
mikedoyle Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Decatur, IL Posts: 111	To quite my tank I ran the overflow piping below the water line which helped alot

04/24/2013, 09:25 AM	#14
E Rosewater Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 846	^+1, submerge the drain line if it's the splashing that's getting to you.

04/24/2013, 11:41 AM	#15
Eric Noa Moved On Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 782	The pipe is below the water line... I was able to reduce the gurgling sound and the splashing by adding a ball valve to the return pump and controlling the flow.