need help

Roman3310 · 07/23/2013, 04:09 PM

just joined don't really now how to navigate through this . I just jumped in. I should have done this awhile ago . This probably would have directed me to the right set up for 180 gallon tank. Its been up about 4 mounths . I got eshop 200psk it hasn't really collecting any thing*it was for alittle bit now nothing. I'm going to buy a new one if I have to I'm getting some brown algae slimy. Some stuff on my sump i think is called dertuis. Should i clean this? Is it bad ? Im also getting a lot of this white little spongy pineapple looking things on my rocks & overflow boxes ? Im worried my tank is getting ruined. Please help someone . If u guys need pictures. More info . help please.

Railcar79 · 07/23/2013, 04:23 PM

Ok take a deep breath and let's break it down. If you can post display tank size, sump size, and what gear you have, along with what you have stocked in the tank it will be easier to help. Also pics help a lot too

Painted skin · 07/23/2013, 04:25 PM

Do you have livestock right now or is it still cycling. If it's still cycling it normal for skimmer not to pull anything anymore.. It maybe just matter of adjusting your protein skimmer. You should clean debris when it builds up. Brown slim mostly likely cyano.

More info?
water parameter for starters.

flow, lighting period, how much livestock and feeding habits.

gone fishin · 07/23/2013, 04:25 PM

^^^^ +1

Roman3310 · 07/23/2013, 06:04 PM

Ok thank u . I tried to put a pic. I couldn't don't know how. So I have 180 gallon 72×24×24 . 2 Deep blue high output 436 t5 lights . 2 mp40s , koralia 1500 , some other water flow it was given to me im going to change it koralia 1500 this are for the back. 2 overflow boxes. Return pump rio 3100 ,900gph. Eshop reef sump h16"L30"w12 I think it holds 20 gallons. Eshop 200 protein skimmer .I got 5 gallon water jug ATO fw110 . Ro Aqua fx . I have 100p of live rock . One yellow tank & six line wrasse . Duncan coral. I feed the fish once a day . For 2 days & then skip a day. The coral every other week. My water parameters are my salt 1.026, calcium 360 , kh 179 10 drops? Phosphate o.o ?nitrate 10 ? Once a week I do 20 gallons water chances .

Roman3310 · 07/23/2013, 06:14 PM

Oh my lighting I do 10:00 am the blue light comes on .. 12:00noon both are on .. 8:00pm the white comes off ...the blue stay on till 9:00pm

Roman3310 · 07/23/2013, 06:27 PM

Sorry I took long . I was trying to put pictures .

Roman3310 · 07/23/2013, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman3310

just joined don't really now how to navigate through this . I just jumped in. I should have done this awhile ago . This probably would have directed me to the right set up for 180 gallon tank. Its been up about 4 mounths . I got eshop 200psk it hasn't really collecting any thing*it was for alittle bit now nothing. I'm going to buy a new one if I have to I'm getting some brown algae slimy. Some stuff on my sump i think is called dertuis. Should i clean this? Is it bad ? Im also getting a lot of this white little spongy pineapple looking things on my rocks & overflow boxes ? Im worried my tank is getting ruined. Please help someone . If u guys need pictures. More info . help please.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painted skin

Do you have livestock right now or is it still cycling. If it's still cycling it normal for skimmer not to pull anything anymore.. It maybe just matter of adjusting your protein skimmer. You should clean debris when it builds up. Brown slim mostly likely cyano.

More info?
water parameter for starters.

flow, lighting period, how much livestock and feeding habits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railcar79

Ok take a deep breath and let's break it down. If you can post display tank size, sump size, and what gear you have, along with what you have stocked in the tank it will be easier to help. Also pics help a lot too

Ok thank u . I tried to put a pic. I couldn't don't know how. So I have 180 gallon 72×24×24 . 2 Deep blue high output 436 t5 lights . 2 mp40s , koralia 1500 , some other water flow it was given to me im going to change it koralia 1500 this are for the back. 2 overflow boxes. Return pump rio 3100 ,900gph. Eshop reef sump h16"L30"w12 I think it holds 20 gallons. Eshop 200 protein skimmer .I got 5 gallon water jug ATO fw110 . Ro Aqua fx . I have 100p of live rock . One yellow tank & six line wrasse . Duncan coral. I feed the fish once a day . For 2 days & then skip a day. The coral every other week. My water parameters are my salt 1.026, calcium 360 , kh 179 10 drops? Phosphate o.o ?nitrate 10 ? Once a week I do 20 gallons water chances*

Painted skin · 07/23/2013, 07:30 PM

Your tank seems fine calcium could be a bit higher. Clean the debris and slim, your water might be too clean and or you're skimming too dry.

daplatapus · 07/23/2013, 07:37 PM

Hey Roman3310, try opening up a free photobucket account and upload your pics to there. Then copy the [IMG] file and paste it in your post and they'll show up

nlgill13 · 07/23/2013, 07:56 PM

+1 using photobucket

Phosphates can read 0 but might be used up by an algae bloom. This can be really deceiving when you check your phosphate levels, so check to see if you have an algae problem first.

Roman3310 · 07/23/2013, 09:24 PM

Could a bad protein skimmer cause this . I'm starting to get it on the glass a lot faster then before.

justthewife · 07/23/2013, 09:33 PM

Sounds like this is a normal cycle for a 4 month old tank. Sounds like Diatoms (the brown stuff)and pineapple sponges. Pineapple sponges are just harmless filter feeders. Just keep up with your water changes and cleaning the glass. Calcium does sound a little low. Diatom blooms are normal and usually resolve after a while. Start reading up on Cyano. Make sure you have enough circulation pumps and no dead spots in the tank.

ca1ore · 07/23/2013, 09:39 PM

Brown slime in early weeks of tank, even a moved one, is almost certainly diatoms. Well go away once silicates are depleted. Cyano is normally red.

justthewife · 07/23/2013, 09:45 PM

Oh yes, I just remembered someone telling me I was going through Ugly Tank Syndrome when this same thing happened to me and to just keep on doing what I was doing. Take one day at a time and solve problems as they arise

ca1ore · 07/23/2013, 09:53 PM

Detritus accumulating in the sump is perfectly normal. Just siphon it out periodically. At four months tank should be thru cycling, and skimmer ought to be pulling out gunk. Pictures!

Roman3310 · 07/24/2013, 07:34 AM

If I get a new protein skimmer & maybe do 40 gallon wc, Im only doing 20 gallon a week right now. Will this make the diatom go away? Do I have to take rocks out & clean this off them? My protein skimmer is not collecting .it was ,for like a month , now nothing. I gave it good cleaning its been aweek since nothing.

Roman3310 · 07/24/2013, 07:57 AM

Should I get an other set of clean up crew.

Painted skin · 07/24/2013, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman3310

If I get a new protein skimmer & maybe do 40 gallon wc, Im only doing 20 gallon a week right now. Will this make the diatom go away?

No it will not, if only it was that simple, just growing pain you're going to have to deal with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman3310

My protein skimmer is not collecting .it was ,for like a month , now nothing. I gave it good cleaning its been aweek since nothing.

ie. zero nitrate. If you have no protein to skim then it will stop working until there is something to pull out. Example if you have an way oversize skimmer it will pull protein out faster than the tank can build up and will stop pulling, but you should still see nice bubbles in the reaction chamber.

nlgill13 · 07/24/2013, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman3310

Should I get an other set of clean up crew.

Its not going to help with a diatom or cyano bloom.

Have any pics?

Railcar79 · 07/24/2013, 06:07 PM

Only 1 way I know of to cure a diatom bloom, wait it out.

Roman3310 · 07/24/2013, 09:05 PM

nlgill13 · 07/24/2013, 09:10 PM

Looks good, the white guys growing in the shade under the rock are pineapple sponges and they are good.

The brown stuff on the rocks looks like a diatom bloom, but keep an eye on it. If the bloom doesn't go away and starts turning a dark red color it is most likely cyano.

The purple on the rocks looks to be coraline algae which is good stuff

Roman3310 · 07/24/2013, 10:17 PM

u just made me feel better. some of the rock I bought is man made its was purple already I think it was painted. I do see some purple on the white ones. so u think every thing is ok. do u suggest anything to prevent anything from getting bad .

Painted skin · 07/24/2013, 10:20 PM

If that is a current picture of your diatom bloom, then you're going to be in for a rude awakening.

That's not bad at all. IMO

07/23/2013, 04:09 PM	#1
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	need help just joined don't really now how to navigate through this . I just jumped in. I should have done this awhile ago . This probably would have directed me to the right set up for 180 gallon tank. Its been up about 4 mounths . I got eshop 200psk it hasn't really collecting any thing*it was for alittle bit now nothing. I'm going to buy a new one if I have to I'm getting some brown algae slimy. Some stuff on my sump i think is called dertuis. Should i clean this? Is it bad ? Im also getting a lot of this white little spongy pineapple looking things on my rocks & overflow boxes ? Im worried my tank is getting ruined. Please help someone . If u guys need pictures. More info . help please.

07/23/2013, 04:25 PM	#4
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	^^^^ +1 __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

07/23/2013, 06:04 PM	#5
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	Ok thank u . I tried to put a pic. I couldn't don't know how. So I have 180 gallon 72×24×24 . 2 Deep blue high output 436 t5 lights . 2 mp40s , koralia 1500 , some other water flow it was given to me im going to change it koralia 1500 this are for the back. 2 overflow boxes. Return pump rio 3100 ,900gph. Eshop reef sump h16"L30"w12 I think it holds 20 gallons. Eshop 200 protein skimmer .I got 5 gallon water jug ATO fw110 . Ro Aqua fx . I have 100p of live rock . One yellow tank & six line wrasse . Duncan coral. I feed the fish once a day . For 2 days & then skip a day. The coral every other week. My water parameters are my salt 1.026, calcium 360 , kh 179 10 drops? Phosphate o.o ?nitrate 10 ? Once a week I do 20 gallons water chances . Last edited by Roman3310; 07/23/2013 at 06:42 PM.

07/23/2013, 07:37 PM	#10
daplatapus Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Port Alberni, B.C., Canada Posts: 895	Hey Roman3310, try opening up a free photobucket account and upload your pics to there. Then copy the [IMG] file and paste it in your post and they'll show up __________________ 130 lbs Tonga LR, GFO and Carbon reactors, Tunze ozmolator ATO, 2- 20 gal QT tanks, Current Tank Info: 80 gal display 48L X 24H X16D, 2 MP-40's, Odyssea 2-250W MH 4-HO T-5 Actinic's, 80 lbs Aragonite sand, 4 - 150W titanium heaters, Reeflo Baracuda return pump, 150gal sump, Filter Guys Reef Miser 6 stage + 1 Dual RO/DI, LifeReef 48" Skimmer

07/23/2013, 09:33 PM	#13
justthewife Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Endicott, NY Posts: 909	Sounds like this is a normal cycle for a 4 month old tank. Sounds like Diatoms (the brown stuff)and pineapple sponges. Pineapple sponges are just harmless filter feeders. Just keep up with your water changes and cleaning the glass. Calcium does sound a little low. Diatom blooms are normal and usually resolve after a while. Start reading up on Cyano. Make sure you have enough circulation pumps and no dead spots in the tank. __________________ 90 gallon Fish only tank Current Tank Info: 90 gal tank AquaMax skimmer LED EchoTech Gen 3 lights Gyre150 RO/DI water

07/23/2013, 04:23 PM	#2
Railcar79 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colton South Dakota Posts: 229	Ok take a deep breath and let's break it down. If you can post display tank size, sump size, and what gear you have, along with what you have stocked in the tank it will be easier to help. Also pics help a lot too

07/23/2013, 04:25 PM	#3
Painted skin Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 679	Do you have livestock right now or is it still cycling. If it's still cycling it normal for skimmer not to pull anything anymore.. It maybe just matter of adjusting your protein skimmer. You should clean debris when it builds up. Brown slim mostly likely cyano. More info? water parameter for starters. flow, lighting period, how much livestock and feeding habits.

07/23/2013, 06:14 PM	#6
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	Oh my lighting I do 10:00 am the blue light comes on .. 12:00noon both are on .. 8:00pm the white comes off ...the blue stay on till 9:00pm

07/23/2013, 06:27 PM	#7
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	Sorry I took long . I was trying to put pictures .

07/23/2013, 07:30 PM	#9
Painted skin Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 679	Your tank seems fine calcium could be a bit higher. Clean the debris and slim, your water might be too clean and or you're skimming too dry.

07/23/2013, 07:56 PM	#11
nlgill13 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Boulder,CO Posts: 1,291	+1 using photobucket Phosphates can read 0 but might be used up by an algae bloom. This can be really deceiving when you check your phosphate levels, so check to see if you have an algae problem first.

07/23/2013, 09:24 PM	#12
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	Could a bad protein skimmer cause this . I'm starting to get it on the glass a lot faster then before.

07/23/2013, 09:39 PM	#14
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Brown slime in early weeks of tank, even a moved one, is almost certainly diatoms. Well go away once silicates are depleted. Cyano is normally red.

07/23/2013, 09:45 PM	#15
justthewife Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Endicott, NY Posts: 909	Oh yes, I just remembered someone telling me I was going through Ugly Tank Syndrome when this same thing happened to me and to just keep on doing what I was doing. Take one day at a time and solve problems as they arise __________________ 90 gallon Fish only tank Current Tank Info: 90 gal tank AquaMax skimmer LED EchoTech Gen 3 lights Gyre150 RO/DI water

07/23/2013, 09:53 PM	#16
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Detritus accumulating in the sump is perfectly normal. Just siphon it out periodically. At four months tank should be thru cycling, and skimmer ought to be pulling out gunk. Pictures!

07/24/2013, 07:34 AM	#17
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	If I get a new protein skimmer & maybe do 40 gallon wc, Im only doing 20 gallon a week right now. Will this make the diatom go away? Do I have to take rocks out & clean this off them? My protein skimmer is not collecting .it was ,for like a month , now nothing. I gave it good cleaning its been aweek since nothing.

07/24/2013, 07:57 AM	#18
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	Should I get an other set of clean up crew.

07/24/2013, 06:07 PM	#21
Railcar79 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Colton South Dakota Posts: 229	Only 1 way I know of to cure a diatom bloom, wait it out.

07/24/2013, 09:05 PM	#22
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	Last edited by Roman3310; 07/24/2013 at 09:29 PM.

07/24/2013, 09:10 PM	#23
nlgill13 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Boulder,CO Posts: 1,291	Looks good, the white guys growing in the shade under the rock are pineapple sponges and they are good. The brown stuff on the rocks looks like a diatom bloom, but keep an eye on it. If the bloom doesn't go away and starts turning a dark red color it is most likely cyano. The purple on the rocks looks to be coraline algae which is good stuff

07/24/2013, 10:17 PM	#24
Roman3310 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n.j. Posts: 46	u just made me feel better. some of the rock I bought is man made its was purple already I think it was painted. I do see some purple on the white ones. so u think every thing is ok. do u suggest anything to prevent anything from getting bad .

07/24/2013, 10:20 PM	#25
Painted skin Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 679	If that is a current picture of your diatom bloom, then you're going to be in for a rude awakening. That's not bad at all. IMO