DC pumps- Waveline, Speedwave or Diablo?

ReeferAl · 09/01/2013, 08:58 PM

I'm looking to replace my return pump. I have a Waveline 6000 but it just doesn't move enough water. I want to stick with a DC pump because of their quietness and compact size. I'm trying to decide between:

Waveline 12000- 3170 gph, 19.9 ft max head, abt $279- mostly "out of stock" or "preorder"- are they really not out yet?
Speedwave 10000-2640 gph, 16.5 ft max head, abt $200
Diablo 1050- 2750 gph, 16.4 ft max head, abt $279

They all look very similar, although the Waveline supposedly has a slightly higher flow and max head. The Diablo and Speedwave look identical. Is the Diablo really better for $79 more? Any experience/advice?

Allen

ABlueReef · 09/01/2013, 09:08 PM

As far as I know with these pumps, they are all the same and manufactured in the same plant in China. The build on these are pretty cheap and mainly plastic.

fltekdiver · 09/01/2013, 09:18 PM

What about wave blaster or laguna pumps ?

htjunkie · 09/01/2013, 10:59 PM

I have a Waveline 6000 for my tank and water movement is not great, it's also quite loud although I never had a sump pump before so I can't compare.

db DeepBlue db · 09/01/2013, 11:55 PM

The speedwave and diablo are the exact same pump with minor differences in the casing.

steve9 · 09/02/2013, 09:20 AM

I have the speedwave great pump very quit and cheap.

Rwinfrey · 09/02/2013, 09:36 AM

I don't think these are made cheaply they are pretty nice.......and uhum but plastic is a good thing for saltwater .....

ReeferAl · 09/02/2013, 09:44 AM

ASAIK, all are made to be usable submerged or out of water. That makes plastic a necessity.
Right now I have the Waveline 6000 and I find it very quiet. Just not enough water movement for my tank.

ReeferAl · 09/02/2013, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fltekdiver

What about wave blaster or laguna pumps ?

I don't believe either of those is a DC pump. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Rwinfrey · 09/02/2013, 12:03 PM

You are right they are not

fltekdiver · 09/02/2013, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReeferAl

I don't believe either of those is a DC pump. Correct me if I'm wrong.

correct, I was just shooting another two good pumps out their to look at

James77 · 09/02/2013, 12:25 PM

The $80 more gets you one year more warranty on the motor only, from CoralVue. These are pretty new so their reliability is unknown(AFAIK)

fltekdiver · 09/02/2013, 12:28 PM

Im about to order either the Reef Octopus SRO 3000INT , or the Reef Octopus Diablo 200

The SRO has the wave line pumps, and the Diablo has the new DC pump

Im going to order tonight from Reef Geeks, they have 10% off right now, but still not sure, I been watching this thread also

nikon187 · 09/02/2013, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fltekdiver

Im about to order either the Reef Octopus SRO 3000INT , or the Reef Octopus Diablo 200

The SRO has the wave line pumps, and the Diablo has the new DC pump

Im going to order tonight from Reef Geeks, they have 10% off right now, but still not sure, I been watching this thread also

the SRO does not use waveline pumps, they use the bubble blaster pumps. The only dc pumps that octopus has is the ones on the 3 POV line and the diablo as far as i know.

fltekdiver · 09/02/2013, 12:51 PM

10/4, thanks, I have the Reef Octopus POV-DC1 right now, but Jermey over at Coral Vue said a DC2 would be better suited for a 180

I didn't want to spend $750 bucks for the newer Dc2, so I'm looking at the Diablo 200 which is rated to 300 gallons, and the SRO 3000

It's just a matter of which pump is better , both units looks close, except the Diablo you can control like the DC1 line

James77 · 09/02/2013, 12:54 PM

That SRO 3000 will have a full 3 year warranty on the pump.

fltekdiver · 09/02/2013, 12:56 PM

Yeh, 3 year vs 2 year on the DC pump

Question is, is the Diablo Line better then the SRO line? With their newer design?

goofyreefer · 09/02/2013, 06:13 PM

Are you selling the 6000?

tsadik · 09/02/2013, 06:28 PM

How about Rolls Royce in pumps from Royal Exclusiv

LesMartin · 09/03/2013, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReeferAl

I'm looking to replace my return pump. I have a Waveline 6000 but it just doesn't move enough water. I want to stick with a DC pump because of their quietness and compact size. I'm trying to decide between:

Waveline 12000- 3170 gph, 19.9 ft max head, abt $279- mostly "out of stock" or "preorder"- are they really not out yet?
Speedwave 10000-2640 gph, 16.5 ft max head, abt $200
Diablo 1050- 2750 gph, 16.4 ft max head, abt $279

They all look very similar, although the Waveline supposedly has a slightly higher flow and max head. The Diablo and Speedwave look identical. Is the Diablo really better for $79 more? Any experience/advice?

Allen

Apparently there is a software issue with the Waveline DC6000 controllers which is currently being addressed. The new software fixes the disappointing flow rate of the current controller.

ReeferAl · 09/03/2013, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LesMartin

Apparently there is a software issue with the Waveline DC6000 controllers which is currently being addressed. The new software fixes the disappointing flow rate of the current controller.

That sounds like maybe I should hold off until I see if that fixes it. Do you know if that is something that will be available for existing pumps?

Allen

ReeferAl · 09/03/2013, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyreefer

Are you selling the 6000?

I figured I'd hold on to it even if I get a new pump. I'm sure I'll find a use for it somewhere.

Allen

Dukester · 09/03/2013, 09:11 PM

im running the jebao dc-12000 and its just like the other DC pumps at half the cost, check it out in action in this video, at 3100GPH its a silent beast for under 100$

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onabn_kKEHg

BrownParticles · 09/04/2013, 01:45 AM

I'd try to get a jebao pump. Apparently, they are the same.

saj01c · 09/04/2013, 02:02 AM

I have the waveline 10000. I had a few problems with the pump. I wanted to use it externally. They fixed the issues and are sending me a new updated version.
They have the 12000 on preorder but it is too much for my tank.

09/01/2013, 08:58 PM	#1
ReeferAl Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Fond du Lac, WI Posts: 2,040	DC pumps- Waveline, Speedwave or Diablo? I'm looking to replace my return pump. I have a Waveline 6000 but it just doesn't move enough water. I want to stick with a DC pump because of their quietness and compact size. I'm trying to decide between: Waveline 12000- 3170 gph, 19.9 ft max head, abt $279- mostly "out of stock" or "preorder"- are they really not out yet? Speedwave 10000-2640 gph, 16.5 ft max head, abt $200 Diablo 1050- 2750 gph, 16.4 ft max head, abt $279 They all look very similar, although the Waveline supposedly has a slightly higher flow and max head. The Diablo and Speedwave look identical. Is the Diablo really better for $79 more? Any experience/advice? Allen

09/01/2013, 09:08 PM	#2
ABlueReef Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Jose Posts: 146	As far as I know with these pumps, they are all the same and manufactured in the same plant in China. The build on these are pretty cheap and mainly plastic. __________________ Life is short, Enjoy it Reefing. Spend time with kids, and travel as much as you can. Current Tank Info: ELOS 120XL, ATb 1050 External, Radion G2 in power module, Bubble Magus Doser

09/01/2013, 09:18 PM	#3
fltekdiver Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,533	What about wave blaster or laguna pumps ? __________________ RedSea Reefer 350 ,Apex Controller ,2x Hydra 26HD lights Reef Octopus eSsence S-130 Protein Skimmer Reef Octopus VarioS return pump , UV sterilizer Ice Cap 3K Gyre - Started up 8/13/19

09/02/2013, 09:36 AM	#7
Rwinfrey Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oakdale,Ct. Posts: 2,772	I don't think these are made cheaply they are pretty nice.......and uhum but plastic is a good thing for saltwater ..... __________________ FUPA jealous;) Current Tank Info: Wish I had one building a house

09/02/2013, 12:03 PM	#10
Rwinfrey Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oakdale,Ct. Posts: 2,772	You are right they are not __________________ FUPA jealous;) Current Tank Info: Wish I had one building a house

09/01/2013, 10:59 PM	#4
htjunkie Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 173	I have a Waveline 6000 for my tank and water movement is not great, it's also quite loud although I never had a sump pump before so I can't compare.

09/01/2013, 11:55 PM	#5
db DeepBlue db Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 13	The speedwave and diablo are the exact same pump with minor differences in the casing.

09/02/2013, 09:20 AM	#6
steve9 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: balto md Posts: 236	I have the speedwave great pump very quit and cheap.

09/02/2013, 09:44 AM	#8
ReeferAl Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Fond du Lac, WI Posts: 2,040	ASAIK, all are made to be usable submerged or out of water. That makes plastic a necessity. Right now I have the Waveline 6000 and I find it very quiet. Just not enough water movement for my tank.

09/02/2013, 12:25 PM	#12
James77 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 8,158	The $80 more gets you one year more warranty on the motor only, from CoralVue. These are pretty new so their reliability is unknown(AFAIK) __________________ Jim Current Tank Info: 120g Mixed Reef and 75g Freshwater

09/02/2013, 12:28 PM	#13
fltekdiver Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,533	Im about to order either the Reef Octopus SRO 3000INT , or the Reef Octopus Diablo 200 The SRO has the wave line pumps, and the Diablo has the new DC pump Im going to order tonight from Reef Geeks, they have 10% off right now, but still not sure, I been watching this thread also __________________ RedSea Reefer 350 ,Apex Controller ,2x Hydra 26HD lights Reef Octopus eSsence S-130 Protein Skimmer Reef Octopus VarioS return pump , UV sterilizer Ice Cap 3K Gyre - Started up 8/13/19

09/02/2013, 12:51 PM	#15
fltekdiver Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,533	10/4, thanks, I have the Reef Octopus POV-DC1 right now, but Jermey over at Coral Vue said a DC2 would be better suited for a 180 I didn't want to spend $750 bucks for the newer Dc2, so I'm looking at the Diablo 200 which is rated to 300 gallons, and the SRO 3000 It's just a matter of which pump is better , both units looks close, except the Diablo you can control like the DC1 line __________________ RedSea Reefer 350 ,Apex Controller ,2x Hydra 26HD lights Reef Octopus eSsence S-130 Protein Skimmer Reef Octopus VarioS return pump , UV sterilizer Ice Cap 3K Gyre - Started up 8/13/19

09/02/2013, 12:54 PM	#16
James77 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 8,158	That SRO 3000 will have a full 3 year warranty on the pump. __________________ Jim Current Tank Info: 120g Mixed Reef and 75g Freshwater

09/02/2013, 12:56 PM	#17
fltekdiver Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,533	Yeh, 3 year vs 2 year on the DC pump Question is, is the Diablo Line better then the SRO line? With their newer design? __________________ RedSea Reefer 350 ,Apex Controller ,2x Hydra 26HD lights Reef Octopus eSsence S-130 Protein Skimmer Reef Octopus VarioS return pump , UV sterilizer Ice Cap 3K Gyre - Started up 8/13/19

09/02/2013, 06:13 PM	#18
goofyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hoffman Estates Illinois Posts: 812	Are you selling the 6000?

09/03/2013, 09:11 PM	#23
Dukester Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sarnia Ontario Posts: 294	im running the jebao dc-12000 and its just like the other DC pumps at half the cost, check it out in action in this video, at 3100GPH its a silent beast for under 100$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onabn_kKEHg

09/04/2013, 01:45 AM	#24
BrownParticles Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 33	I'd try to get a jebao pump. Apparently, they are the same.

09/04/2013, 02:02 AM	#25
saj01c Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 59	I have the waveline 10000. I had a few problems with the pump. I wanted to use it externally. They fixed the issues and are sending me a new updated version. They have the 12000 on preorder but it is too much for my tank.