Should I get a radion pro ?

Johnic · 09/12/2013, 06:46 PM

Tossing around the idea of getting a radion pro.
I'll be keeping 75% lps and the rest sps
I currently have a gen 1
What's the thoughts ??

Stomatopod1701 · 09/12/2013, 07:25 PM

if things are well why change?

Johnic · 09/12/2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stomatopod1701

if things are well why change?

The gen 1 is on my smaller 25 and I planned on moving it to my 75

Tradewinds · 09/12/2013, 07:36 PM

Another option would be to upgrade the Gen 1 to a Pro, if Ecotech is still offering the upgrade.

Johnic · 09/12/2013, 08:02 PM

Ya, I was thinking about that. Do they offer that still? I would do that instead.

Tradewinds · 09/13/2013, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnic

Ya, I was thinking about that. Do they offer that still? I would do that instead.

I just checked and it looks like they are still offering the upgrades, which says a lot about the company in my opinion.

I'm not sure if it's acceptable to post outside vendor links here so I will PM you the link to their upgrade page.

Johnic · 09/14/2013, 10:23 AM

Well. I just mounted my radion gen1 in my new 75 which has some caves and pillars and I think the gen1 doesn't cover it enough. A lot of shadows. I have it 13" from water surface and at 55% at max point during day.
Should I bump up the 55%?
And can I add a pro ? Will the lights mix and I won't see a difference in lights in the two areas of the tank?
You would think that they would make one led that can cover a 36x24x20 deep tank

Tradewinds · 09/14/2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnic

Well. I just mounted my radion gen1 in my new 75 which has some caves and pillars and I think the gen1 doesn't cover it enough. A lot of shadows. I have it 13" from water surface and at 55% at max point during day.
Should I bump up the 55%?
And can I add a pro ? Will the lights mix and I won't see a difference in lights in the two areas of the tank?
You would think that they would make one led that can cover a 36x24x20 deep tank

I don't think bumping up the intensity will get rid of your shadows, as it sounds like the problem is due to the light being blocked by the rock.

Good news, mention of a new lens, that will provide 36" coverage is being discussed on the Ecotech forum. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2328489

BusterTB · 09/14/2013, 06:37 PM

I believe I read somewhere on ecotech's site that 32" is the max spread on the Pro w/ TIR lenses.

Tradewinds · 09/14/2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterTB

I believe I read somewhere on ecotech's site that 32" is the max spread on the Pro w/ TIR lenses.

In this thread, the president of Ecotech said, "In the near future there will be a wide angle optic offered as an accessory designed for 36x36 and beyond spread at 9" from water line."

pwoller · 09/14/2013, 07:16 PM

An Atlantik would be perfect!

Johnic · 09/14/2013, 11:55 PM

ya..i do like the Atlantik, but I like the ecotech sync with my two mp40....
I also put the TIR lenses on my Gen1 but I still think its not doing it...
I wish they made the ecotech in a 24" version
Does the Atlantik come with UV lighting ?

rogerwilco357 · 09/15/2013, 12:22 AM

Is the Pro alot more powerful than the gen1? I was thinking of doing the same ..

BusterTB · 09/15/2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerwilco357

Is the Pro alot more powerful than the gen1? I was thinking of doing the same ..

The Pro has 10 more LED's than Gen1.
2 yellow
4 UV
4 Indigo (415nm)

I think the Gen 2 is now on sale for $450... the upgrade to Pro is around $200. That beats paying $899 for a Pro out of the box. You might have to do the conversion yourself. Ecotech has how to video posted on their website for the conversion and it looks really simple.

This is what I will be doing when I upgrade my tank in the spring. Unless they lower the price on the Pro sometime soon.

Johnic · 09/15/2013, 09:26 AM

I thought the upgrade is $300?

mikeatjac · 09/15/2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnic

I thought the upgrade is $300?

It is and well worth it.

BusterTB · 09/15/2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnic

I thought the upgrade is $300?

I can't find the price now. But if its $300 for the upgrade, you still save over $200 than just buying a pro.

Hdhuntr01 · 09/15/2013, 03:35 PM

For what it's worth. I have three Radion Pro Fixtures over a 185G and they are so powerful that I have to run them at 60% or less. Yes, the additional colored LEDs are very nice but if you are not planning on having a lot of SPS you might just want to consider if the difference in price is worth it. You will be fine with the basic Radion or you can get crazy like me and buy the best of the best. Heck, it's just money. LOL

Johnic · 09/15/2013, 04:12 PM

If I buy a pro can I keep my gen 1 with tir lenses on tank as well. I don't feel one can cover my tank. Alot a shadows. Ooor ...Will one pro do the trick if I up grade my existing light. ??

BusterTB · 09/15/2013, 06:26 PM

I would upgrade to a Pro first, then decide if you need another unit. When I bought my Pro I was able to demo and compare it to a Gen 1 and Vega. The daytime settings were about the same on all lights with the pro being a bit brighter. What sold me was the blue/uv settings. They absolutely made the corals pop and blew away the other fixtures in that setting.

Johnic · 09/15/2013, 06:53 PM

Good idea. My big concern is I need my gen1 light running. I know they can send me a rebuilt pro while I keep my gen1, but I hope they don't send me a beat up one, cause my gen 1 is in awesome shape.

BusterTB · 09/16/2013, 04:35 AM

I think your referring to the loaner program for the pro upgrade. They will send you a loaner, but I believe they charge your cc for the full price of the light and refund upon return (minus the cost of the upgrade). I cant imagine the whole process taking anymore than 3 weeks to a month.

Check out the instructional video on the Pro upgrade. It looks very simple and you would not have to screw around with a loaner.
http://ecotechmarine.com/media-galle...o-gen2-or-pro/

firewill65 · 09/16/2013, 05:34 AM

Radians wouldn't work with my tank due to my large pillars blocking too much light and causing major shadows. My t5 lit the whole tank up nicely so I'm staying with the t5's and going to supplement with some LED strips.

Tradewinds · 09/16/2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterTB

Check out the instructional video on the Pro upgrade. It looks very simple and you would not have to screw around with a loaner.
http://ecotechmarine.com/media-galle...o-gen2-or-pro/

Looks easy enough, but where does Ecotech sell the cluster upgrade for the Pro?

BusterTB · 09/16/2013, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tradewinds

Looks easy enough, but where does Ecotech sell the cluster upgrade for the Pro?

I have seen it on their site in the past, but I just looked and could not find it. I would call Ecotech if you are looking to upgrade.

09/12/2013, 06:46 PM	#1
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	Should I get a radion pro ? Tossing around the idea of getting a radion pro. I'll be keeping 75% lps and the rest sps I currently have a gen 1 What's the thoughts ?? __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident Last edited by Johnic; 09/12/2013 at 06:52 PM.

09/12/2013, 08:02 PM	#5
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	Ya, I was thinking about that. Do they offer that still? I would do that instead. __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident

09/14/2013, 10:23 AM	#7
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	Well. I just mounted my radion gen1 in my new 75 which has some caves and pillars and I think the gen1 doesn't cover it enough. A lot of shadows. I have it 13" from water surface and at 55% at max point during day. Should I bump up the 55%? And can I add a pro ? Will the lights mix and I won't see a difference in lights in the two areas of the tank? You would think that they would make one led that can cover a 36x24x20 deep tank __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident

09/14/2013, 11:55 PM	#12
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	ya..i do like the Atlantik, but I like the ecotech sync with my two mp40.... I also put the TIR lenses on my Gen1 but I still think its not doing it... I wish they made the ecotech in a 24" version Does the Atlantik come with UV lighting ? __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident

09/15/2013, 12:22 AM	#13
rogerwilco357 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: michigan Posts: 1,391	Is the Pro alot more powerful than the gen1? I was thinking of doing the same .. __________________ hook line and sinker Current Tank Info: 2x2x4 120gal,sump45 gal.RKE controller,ATI Powermodule 8x80watt,1MP20+2MP40,1 mp10,RoyalExclusive Alpha200

09/12/2013, 07:25 PM	#2
Stomatopod1701 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 143	if things are well why change?

09/12/2013, 07:36 PM	#4
Tradewinds Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,872	Another option would be to upgrade the Gen 1 to a Pro, if Ecotech is still offering the upgrade.

09/14/2013, 06:37 PM	#9
BusterTB Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: North Ridgeville, OH Posts: 89	I believe I read somewhere on ecotech's site that 32" is the max spread on the Pro w/ TIR lenses.

09/14/2013, 07:16 PM	#11
pwoller Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 1,163	An Atlantik would be perfect!

09/15/2013, 09:26 AM	#15
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	I thought the upgrade is $300? __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident

09/15/2013, 03:35 PM	#18
Hdhuntr01 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woolmarket, MS Posts: 395	For what it's worth. I have three Radion Pro Fixtures over a 185G and they are so powerful that I have to run them at 60% or less. Yes, the additional colored LEDs are very nice but if you are not planning on having a lot of SPS you might just want to consider if the difference in price is worth it. You will be fine with the basic Radion or you can get crazy like me and buy the best of the best. Heck, it's just money. LOL __________________ Red Sea Reefer 750XXL, Four Radion Pro's, NYOS Skimmer, APEX, Two EcoTech MP40QD and some other goodies. Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 750XXL

09/15/2013, 04:12 PM	#19
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	If I buy a pro can I keep my gen 1 with tir lenses on tank as well. I don't feel one can cover my tank. Alot a shadows. Ooor ...Will one pro do the trick if I up grade my existing light. ?? __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident

09/15/2013, 06:26 PM	#20
BusterTB Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: North Ridgeville, OH Posts: 89	I would upgrade to a Pro first, then decide if you need another unit. When I bought my Pro I was able to demo and compare it to a Gen 1 and Vega. The daytime settings were about the same on all lights with the pro being a bit brighter. What sold me was the blue/uv settings. They absolutely made the corals pop and blew away the other fixtures in that setting.

09/15/2013, 06:53 PM	#21
Johnic Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,092	Good idea. My big concern is I need my gen1 light running. I know they can send me a rebuilt pro while I keep my gen1, but I hope they don't send me a beat up one, cause my gen 1 is in awesome shape. __________________ 75 Lee Mar Peninsula Tank, Reef Octo Elite 150, Custom Advanced Acrylic Sump, (2) MP40, Vectra M2 Main Pump, (2) XR15 Pro, Clear Water ATS CW-50, Alkatronic,GHL Doser 2.1, Apex Neptune El with Trident

09/16/2013, 04:35 AM	#22
BusterTB Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: North Ridgeville, OH Posts: 89	I think your referring to the loaner program for the pro upgrade. They will send you a loaner, but I believe they charge your cc for the full price of the light and refund upon return (minus the cost of the upgrade). I cant imagine the whole process taking anymore than 3 weeks to a month. Check out the instructional video on the Pro upgrade. It looks very simple and you would not have to screw around with a loaner. http://ecotechmarine.com/media-galle...o-gen2-or-pro/

09/16/2013, 05:34 AM	#23
firewill65 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 746	Radians wouldn't work with my tank due to my large pillars blocking too much light and causing major shadows. My t5 lit the whole tank up nicely so I'm staying with the t5's and going to supplement with some LED strips.