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Unread 10/28/2013, 01:49 PM   #1
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Cycle is nearing it's end!! but what are these?

The first 2 weeks, I was confused on my cycle. then the 3rd week, I added a raw shrimp for 2 days to get a noticeable ammonia reading. and continued testing nitrites, and nitrates. no rise in nitrites...EVER. nitrates, did keep rising.

and now, the 4th week in, ammonia is at ZERO, nitrites are at ZERO, nitrates are around 40ppm. (tank is still empty!! don't worry.)

yesterday, I found diatoms, and more green hair algae.
I'd say a small snail only clean up crew will help, and add maybe 1 fish to keep the bacteria thriving.

Also, found these white pod things on my glass. Don't know what they are...
just noticed all of them today! mainly near the bottom by the sand bed. but some are scattered around.

It's almost 5 weeks into the cycle.

Take a look, and see if you know. thanks!


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Unread 10/28/2013, 02:24 PM   #2
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Cannot really tell from the photos. Could be copepods/ampipods of some kind, or it could be small tube worms. Do they have a frilly crown?


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Unread 10/28/2013, 03:24 PM   #3
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Tough to tell from the photos but I noticed similarly sized little creatures swimming in my tank and upon much closer inspection I noticed it's shape and features resembled that of a bristle worm... then a few days later I noticed a bunch of new bristle worms in the tank of varying sizes and length.

Throw a clean up crew in there and they should eat any small creatures and keep populations of stuff like that in check.

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Unread 10/28/2013, 03:40 PM   #4
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Tough to tell from the photos but I noticed similarly sized little creatures swimming in my tank and upon much closer inspection I noticed it's shape and features resembled that of a bristle worm... then a few days later I noticed a bunch of new bristle worms in the tank of varying sizes and length.

Throw a clean up crew in there and they should eat any small creatures and keep populations of stuff like that in check.

Good luck
+1 Same here when my tank started out, definately looks like bristle worms to me.
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Unread 10/28/2013, 03:46 PM   #5
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check for example http://www.lionfishlair.com/hitchhiker/hitchhiker.shtml


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Unread 10/28/2013, 04:19 PM   #6
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They're definately bristle worms. You can really tell if you just observe them for some time (10-15 minutes) and see them attempting to crawl higher on the glass, only to fall off when they encounter high water current.


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Unread 10/29/2013, 05:26 AM   #7
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They're definately bristle worms. You can really tell if you just observe them for some time (10-15 minutes) and see them attempting to crawl higher on the glass, only to fall off when they encounter high water current.

+1 on this...
I just got out of work, and noticed one moving.
and they have little fuzzy legs surrounding the body.
and I also notice...they are high in population in the whole area where the flow is lower. thanks!

Can't wait until I get my clean up crew. My diatoms started 3 days ago, as well.




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Unread 10/29/2013, 07:44 AM   #8
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FWIW, if they are bristle worms (or worms of any kind), then they actually ARE part of the CUC. Aren't too many things in a reef tank that do a better job of scavenging uneaten stuff than bristle worms. Resist the urge to remove them!


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FWIW, if they are bristle worms (or worms of any kind), then they actually ARE part of the CUC. Aren't too many things in a reef tank that do a better job of scavenging uneaten stuff than bristle worms. Resist the urge to remove them!
Won't my larger sized clean up crew devour them anyway? haha.
But I agree with you, these (i hope) will not become a bad thing.


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Won't my larger sized clean up crew devour them anyway? haha.
But I agree with you, these (i hope) will not become a bad thing.
Yeah, probably. Though I've got lots of small worms that live in my sand bed that seem to escape being eaten.


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Yeah, probably. Though I've got lots of small worms that live in my sand bed that seem to escape being eaten.
the benefits of having sand in the aquarium. Yeah, I'll keep the worms in there. the ones on the glass might get unlucky next week, as I most likely will be adding snails. I say snails...only because I've researched that having hermits with snails can be a accident later on, as the hermits will attack snails...sometimes corals. Correct me if I may be wrong. But I am sure.


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I say snails...only because I've researched that having hermits with snails can be a accident later on, as the hermits will attack snails...sometimes corals. Correct me if I may be wrong.
Personally, I am a big fan of hermits and would not run a reef tank without them. IME, they only largely attack snails to steal their shells - so you just provide an assortment of empty shells for them (if you buy from reefcleaners.org, they send along a bag of empty shells, which is pretty smart). I've not had hermits try to eat any of my corals, though they will knock over poorly secured frags just by blundering around.


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I had those too when I first cycled. I think they are in there still. I added a second Wp25 to move the water more in an area that didn't have much flow. I thought it was just dead stuff coming from the rocks....hmm good to know.


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I had those too when I first cycled. I think they are in there still. I added a second Wp25 to move the water more in an area that didn't have much flow. I thought it was just dead stuff coming from the rocks....hmm good to know.
you can see them moving, they eat and then move to another spot, and eat some more. they are good!


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Unread 10/30/2013, 03:21 PM   #15
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Personally, I am a big fan of hermits and would not run a reef tank without them. IME, they only largely attack snails to steal their shells - so you just provide an assortment of empty shells for them (if you buy from reefcleaners.org, they send along a bag of empty shells, which is pretty smart). I've not had hermits try to eat any of my corals, though they will knock over poorly secured frags just by blundering around.
Okay, I am a lover of crabs, too. I guess I could add a few when I go get my cleaning crew.


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