Pet Owners

salty_firball · 11/26/2013, 12:32 AM

Another question for everyone. How many reefers out there have dogs and cats?

Im looking at putting a glass lid over my 60 cube for 2 reasons, 1 the norm and stopping jumps but 2 to keep dog hair out of my tank as I cannot think that would be to good for the tank.

Problem is I have heard screens are so much better then glass lids so what do all you dog, cat and bird owners do out there?

LidoSoCal · 11/26/2013, 12:51 AM

I have an english bulldog and i catch him staring at the tank sometimes but never any problems with hair. I do have a cover on my tank though

Nina51 · 11/26/2013, 06:12 AM

two great danes. no problems with hair in my tank, only the occasional glob of slobber i have to clean off the glass.

Almondsaz · 11/26/2013, 06:20 AM

I have two scotties and a westie and the scotties shed quite a bit. I don't have a screen on my tank and have never had a problem with dog hair in the tank….mine do love to sit and look at the sump for some reason.

NTP66 · 11/26/2013, 06:53 AM

We have three cats - one being a longhair domestic that sheds like crazy - and I've never had any issues with fur winding up in my tank (I have mesh netting covers, which I would highly recommend). I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Meanmike · 11/26/2013, 07:21 AM

My tanks are in the basement where the dogs aren't allowed.

shifty51008 · 11/26/2013, 07:30 AM

we have 4 pugs, but the tank is to tall for them, I maybe see a hair or 2 in the filter sock now and then but nothing to worry about.

Mazzy · 11/26/2013, 07:38 AM

I do have a glass lid on my tank (and it doesn't have water in it yet) but I'm actually surprised others don't have issues with dog hair as my own gal's hair is literally all over the glass top every morning. Maybe different dog hair floats around the room better or maybe it's just our individual houses and the air circulation in them that causes more hair to fly around than in other homes??

I can tell you that my dog is a shepperd/rott mix, sheds ridiculously, and I have one of those floor air purifier things running all the time so that is blowing out air (and may contribute to blowing around dog hair even though it's also sucking it up). I've already seen a little bit of hair inside the tank while I've been building my hanging bar for my LEDs (the reason there's no water in the tank) and, as mentioned, there's always some amount of loose hairs on the top of the glass each morning.

So if you are seeing the same kind of thing from your dog's hair then I would put some kind of top on the tank. I don't think dog hair would do anything fatal to your tank but having a hair or two trapped on a piece of rock or coral will be unsightly and the whole reason we do this hobby is to look at the pretty picture we've created in our glass boxes, so hair floating around in there does not create a pretty picture.

thegrun · 11/26/2013, 08:07 AM

I would use 1/4" clear bird screen set in a window screen frame rather than glass. You will get much better water/air exchange, better light penetration and not have to deal with constantly cleaning the glass.

Green Chromis · 11/26/2013, 10:11 AM

I have 2 English Golden Retrievers, both with long hair and never had a problem with hair in the display tank.

MLS · 11/26/2013, 10:17 AM

We have 2 LARGER dogs and 2 cats. Never had any problems with hair in the tank. The only mishap I had was one of the cats jumped on top of the light and spewed it dinner in the tank..... I will not go into the mess that created!

JRR1285 · 11/26/2013, 10:17 AM

We have 3 cats and a Husky. I find the odd hair in the sump area but nothing too concerning. No lid on the tank.

The cats were conditioned to stay away from the tank with a motion sensing "air blaster". It worked great and they don't go anywhere near the tank now. Dog doesn't even look at the tank.

3dees · 11/26/2013, 11:02 AM

I have a cat and a yellow lab who always seems to be shedding. he could care less about the tank. I find a hair floating now and then but I don't think it would cause any problems.

Leanan · 11/26/2013, 12:46 PM

JRR, I might have to steal your idea for training the cat to stay away from the tank... I'm hoping to have an open tank on my first reef set up, but I have an extremely curious cat and I'm afraid to think of what mischief he could get up to with the tank!

Guntotn · 11/26/2013, 01:36 PM

2 labs and they don't bother it. I could see how a cat may be an issue maybe?

Fr0zEn4244 · 11/26/2013, 01:39 PM

I have a cane corso, I have seen hair in my tank every once in a while my tang just spits it back out.

I only see it during cleaning when I stick my hand in the tank. Again its very rare but I have not seen anything bad happen.

Reeferz412 · 11/26/2013, 02:24 PM

When I had a freshwater tank, the cat jumped once landed inside, and never did it again.

Chevrefils · 11/26/2013, 04:40 PM

I have a great pyrnees. I might see the odd hair in my tank. Her hair is otherwise everywhere else.

JRR1285 · 11/26/2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Leanan

JRR, I might have to steal your idea for training the cat to stay away from the tank... I'm hoping to have an open tank on my first reef set up, but I have an extremely curious cat and I'm afraid to think of what mischief he could get up to with the tank!

It definitely worked well. I would also make sure there are no shelves or window sills near the tank if you can. Anything that can be a platform for them to vault up to the tank. I was worried they were going to jump onto my hanging light fixture at some point but they never tried. I now have a smaller fixture that I would be shocked if they tried it with.

reefguy24 · 11/26/2013, 06:04 PM

Two savannah cats. One of them 40lbs and smarter than any dog I have ever met.

He watches the tank when I watch the tank, but other than that he is smart enough to understand when the lid's closed, he can't get in, nor is he allowed to do so.

Crkbaby · 11/26/2013, 06:52 PM

I have 4 cats and when they look at my 240 they just go forget that lol.

phillrodrigo · 11/26/2013, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr0zEn4244

I have a cane corso, I have seen hair in my tank every once in a while my tang just spits it back out.

I only see it during cleaning when I stick my hand in the tank. Again its very rare but I have not seen anything bad happen.

Do you have a blue cane corso cause I do and she is the greatest dog in the world. She looks like eeyore

Leanan · 11/27/2013, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JRR1285

It definitely worked well. I would also make sure there are no shelves or window sills near the tank if you can. Anything that can be a platform for them to vault up to the tank. I was worried they were going to jump onto my hanging light fixture at some point but they never tried. I now have a smaller fixture that I would be shocked if they tried it with.

Oh wow I hadn't even considered worrying about him jumping on the light fixture! I am definitely going to try to minimize the furniture around the tank because he loves to climb and I certainly don't trust him, haha. He's cute though, so I guess that makes up for it.

salty_firball · 11/28/2013, 06:30 PM

great info. I will go with the screen then instead of glass lid.

athompson · 11/28/2013, 07:04 PM

I have a Selkirk Rex cat that sheds like a persian and have 3 tanks. The 75 gallon is fresh and she ignores it, the 10 gallon nano is topless and she ignores it. The problem- of all things- is my 5 gallon betta. She is constantly after him. Swatting the tank. He's well protected so she can't get to him but sheesh. Never noticed any hair in any of my tanks.

11/26/2013, 12:32 AM	#1
salty_firball Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 9	Pet Owners Another question for everyone. How many reefers out there have dogs and cats? Im looking at putting a glass lid over my 60 cube for 2 reasons, 1 the norm and stopping jumps but 2 to keep dog hair out of my tank as I cannot think that would be to good for the tank. Problem is I have heard screens are so much better then glass lids so what do all you dog, cat and bird owners do out there?

11/26/2013, 06:12 AM	#3
Nina51 biggliest cofveve champ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5th floor, Illinois, gewgaw expert Posts: 3,506	two great danes. no problems with hair in my tank, only the occasional glob of slobber i have to clean off the glass. __________________ of all the things i've lost, i miss my gary the most. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine into your brain, and that is where crappy ideas come from. Current Tank Info: i gave my reef away and i feel like a bird out of a cage!!

11/26/2013, 06:53 AM	#5
NTP66 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: PA Posts: 975	We have three cats - one being a longhair domestic that sheds like crazy - and I've never had any issues with fur winding up in my tank (I have mesh netting covers, which I would highly recommend). I don't think you have anything to worry about. __________________ Nick Current Tank Info: 90g FOWLR, Reef Octopus NWB-150 skimmer, MP40wES x2, Eheim 1260 return, BuildMyLED 20,000k XB LEDs, Apex Jr.

11/26/2013, 07:30 AM	#7
shifty51008 12-5 Chiefs record Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 10,134	we have 4 pugs, but the tank is to tall for them, I maybe see a hair or 2 in the filter sock now and then but nothing to worry about. __________________ 75 gal. mixed DT, 100 gal. sump, 50 gal. fuge, Clownfish breeder

11/26/2013, 10:11 AM	#10
Green Chromis Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: miami,florida Posts: 640	I have 2 English Golden Retrievers, both with long hair and never had a problem with hair in the display tank. __________________ Natural Reefer Current Tank Info: 600 gallon Carribean Reef System, ETSS Protein Skimmer, 1.5HP Tradewinds Chiller, Reef Breeders Photon V2+ LED Lighting For The Refugium, Mitra LX7206 LED Lights For Display Tank

11/26/2013, 12:51 AM	#2
LidoSoCal Moved On Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ventura Posts: 106	I have an english bulldog and i catch him staring at the tank sometimes but never any problems with hair. I do have a cover on my tank though

11/26/2013, 06:20 AM	#4
Almondsaz Premium Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: OP, Ks Posts: 617	I have two scotties and a westie and the scotties shed quite a bit. I don't have a screen on my tank and have never had a problem with dog hair in the tank….mine do love to sit and look at the sump for some reason.

11/26/2013, 07:21 AM	#6
Meanmike Moved On Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 473	My tanks are in the basement where the dogs aren't allowed.

11/26/2013, 07:38 AM	#8
Mazzy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan! GO BLUE!! Posts: 172	I do have a glass lid on my tank (and it doesn't have water in it yet) but I'm actually surprised others don't have issues with dog hair as my own gal's hair is literally all over the glass top every morning. Maybe different dog hair floats around the room better or maybe it's just our individual houses and the air circulation in them that causes more hair to fly around than in other homes?? I can tell you that my dog is a shepperd/rott mix, sheds ridiculously, and I have one of those floor air purifier things running all the time so that is blowing out air (and may contribute to blowing around dog hair even though it's also sucking it up). I've already seen a little bit of hair inside the tank while I've been building my hanging bar for my LEDs (the reason there's no water in the tank) and, as mentioned, there's always some amount of loose hairs on the top of the glass each morning. So if you are seeing the same kind of thing from your dog's hair then I would put some kind of top on the tank. I don't think dog hair would do anything fatal to your tank but having a hair or two trapped on a piece of rock or coral will be unsightly and the whole reason we do this hobby is to look at the pretty picture we've created in our glass boxes, so hair floating around in there does not create a pretty picture.

11/26/2013, 08:07 AM	#9
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	I would use 1/4" clear bird screen set in a window screen frame rather than glass. You will get much better water/air exchange, better light penetration and not have to deal with constantly cleaning the glass.

11/26/2013, 10:17 AM	#11
MLS Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 67	We have 2 LARGER dogs and 2 cats. Never had any problems with hair in the tank. The only mishap I had was one of the cats jumped on top of the light and spewed it dinner in the tank..... I will not go into the mess that created! __________________ Mike 40L Reef Tank, 10 Gallon Nano, 5 Gallon Pico

11/26/2013, 10:17 AM	#12
JRR1285 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Long Island Posts: 450	We have 3 cats and a Husky. I find the odd hair in the sump area but nothing too concerning. No lid on the tank. The cats were conditioned to stay away from the tank with a motion sensing "air blaster". It worked great and they don't go anywhere near the tank now. Dog doesn't even look at the tank.

11/26/2013, 11:02 AM	#13
3dees Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 793	I have a cat and a yellow lab who always seems to be shedding. he could care less about the tank. I find a hair floating now and then but I don't think it would cause any problems.

11/26/2013, 12:46 PM	#14
Leanan Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 92	JRR, I might have to steal your idea for training the cat to stay away from the tank... I'm hoping to have an open tank on my first reef set up, but I have an extremely curious cat and I'm afraid to think of what mischief he could get up to with the tank!

11/26/2013, 01:36 PM	#15
Guntotn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 59	2 labs and they don't bother it. I could see how a cat may be an issue maybe?

11/26/2013, 01:39 PM	#16
Fr0zEn4244 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 221	I have a cane corso, I have seen hair in my tank every once in a while my tang just spits it back out. I only see it during cleaning when I stick my hand in the tank. Again its very rare but I have not seen anything bad happen.

11/26/2013, 02:24 PM	#17
Reeferz412 Coral Hoarder Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,247	When I had a freshwater tank, the cat jumped once landed inside, and never did it again. __________________ Alex FMAS Member Current Tank Info: 400 Gallons of frags... 30 gallon Deep Blue mixed reef ... 70 other tanks throughout south FL

11/26/2013, 04:40 PM	#18
Chevrefils Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 242	I have a great pyrnees. I might see the odd hair in my tank. Her hair is otherwise everywhere else.

11/26/2013, 06:04 PM	#20
reefguy24 Registered Member. Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 288	Two savannah cats. One of them 40lbs and smarter than any dog I have ever met. He watches the tank when I watch the tank, but other than that he is smart enough to understand when the lid's closed, he can't get in, nor is he allowed to do so.

11/26/2013, 06:52 PM	#21
Crkbaby Registered Member. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 422	I have 4 cats and when they look at my 240 they just go forget that lol.

11/28/2013, 06:30 PM	#24
salty_firball Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 9	great info. I will go with the screen then instead of glass lid.

11/28/2013, 07:04 PM	#25
athompson Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 233	I have a Selkirk Rex cat that sheds like a persian and have 3 tanks. The 75 gallon is fresh and she ignores it, the 10 gallon nano is topless and she ignores it. The problem- of all things- is my 5 gallon betta. She is constantly after him. Swatting the tank. He's well protected so she can't get to him but sheesh. Never noticed any hair in any of my tanks.