How many fish in a 35 gallon tank

qasim99 · 04/20/2014, 12:37 PM

What is the maximum amount of fish that i can put in a 35 gallon tank? I currently have 2 small clowns (about 1 inch in length) , a regal tang which is slightly bigger than the clowns.. along with a small molly and a red fire shrimp. I also have a pink spotted goby which is roughly over 2 inches in length. How many more can i add?(presuming i only add small fish) I also plan on adding a baby mandarin after 6 months or more, if all goes well

Mateous · 04/20/2014, 12:40 PM

I would say you are done. Those fish may be small now but they do grow. The tang will soon outgrow that tank altogether. If you wanted you could possibly do some other shrimp.

avijay23 · 04/20/2014, 03:59 PM

+1 on no more fish. With bigger bioloads, even relatively minor fluctuations can upset the balance and stress fishes.
Vijay

Cloudburst2000 · 04/20/2014, 04:57 PM

I don't think a mandarin would do well in a 35g tank unless you have a huge sump where pods are being bred. Mandarins eat tons of pods and I just don't think most nano tanks would ever be able to support their appetite unless they have a large sump attached to them.

Also, keep an eye on that regal tang. They get up to a foot in length, and I believe you will likely start seeing aggression issues with that tang in such a small tank. There is a reason why they are suggested for 180g+ aquariums. Tangs can get fairly aggressive when housed in too-small aquariums. And aggression issues can pop up out of the blue. It might be fine one day and the next day you might find it beating the crap out of your other fish. Just pay good attention to it. If you start seeing it being aggressive to tank mates, remove it immediately or you might suffer many fish casualties.

And with that regal tang in there, you are already at max bioload. I think if you were to remove the tang that you could add a couple more small fish. But no more fish if the tang stays.

ReeferKimberly · 04/20/2014, 04:59 PM

A regal tang and a mandarin in a 35? You serious?

April Fools was 20 days ago....

qasim99 · 04/20/2014, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReeferKimberly

A regal tang and a mandarin in a 35? You serious?

April Fools was 20 days ago....

Dont comment if you have nothing good to say. I will sell the tang once it outgrows the tank, and will only put a baby mandarin if the tank is well established and if my LFS says it is safe to do so

... thx to the other guys for the help

ReeferKimberly · 04/20/2014, 11:41 PM

Your LFS wants to sell you fish.

A 35 will practically never sustain a mandarin unless you get incredibly lucky and get one that eats dead food.

I am sorry but like so many others we are tired of seeing people kill fish. Mandarins are not for small tanks, they just are not. You have already been told this elsewhere on the forum.

When someone posts a question on an open forum they should expect people to comment, good or bad. If you really are so new that a regal tang and a mandarin are in mind (and you want to add even more) for a 35 and you really really have no idea what you are saying is like cramming 30 Saint Bernards in a dog house then I apologize, otherwise this seems like trolling, hence the not so positive comment.

bnumair · 04/20/2014, 11:53 PM

i believe with the size of tank its already at max and again tang doesnt need to be in there. i know u said u will move it out, my feeling is that it probably wont survive at the size u mentioned. tangs under 2-3" have very low survival rateand more worse in a small tank like urs.
Good luck.

airplanes1016 · 04/21/2014, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasim99

Dont comment if you have nothing good to say. I will sell the tang once it outgrows the tank, and will only put a baby mandarin if the tank is well established and if my LFS says it is safe to do so

... thx to the other guys for the help

Well, I think it's time to sell it. As it has already outgrown your current system

Every1jockzjay · 04/21/2014, 03:42 AM

I had a mandarin in a 5 month old 36 bow with 10gal sump, figured i had enouph pods to lat him a long time. I tried every method available to train him, although i think he ate live brine he eventually got skinny where his stomach was indented.. I brought him back to the lfs, he lasted about 5 happy months before pod pop was decimated... Dont count on training him, chances are he will only eat pods and you will never keep him long term. Imo if u can return him in a few months u can try it but do t let the thing starve to death, and get him extremely fat. As far as the tang, the tang police is guna b reall madd at that one ur not even closeee to the recomended size tank... Theres alot of advice telling u not to get these fish on this site and they are 100% correct. U can do what u want like i did, figured my 55lbs of lr would help some but when i saw my mandarin stressed i quickly returned him

qasim99 · 04/21/2014, 07:18 AM

Thanks for all the help guys. I am still learning, so i appreciate all the advice.. its just a shame when some people come with nasty and sarcastic comments

Thanks again, much appreciated.

Any recommendations on which are some nice fish that will be compatible with my system? it is a 35 gallon with 15kg live rock.. 2 filters + a hang on skimmer and a powerhead

Xavibear · 04/21/2014, 07:57 AM

Get rid of the tang & forget about the mandarin. Start researching fish choices that will be more appropriate for your tank size.

Sugar Magnolia · 04/21/2014, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasim99

its just a shame when some people come with nasty and sarcastic comments

You need to be able to listen to the advice being given here. You've been told several times that the tang and mandarin are not suitable inhabitants for your tank. The minimum tank size for that tang is 240 gallons. Mandarins need large (90g plus), well established tanks to survive. It would be best if you returned the tang to the lfs and look for fish more suitable for your small tank. Think gobies, blennies.

qasim99 · 04/25/2014, 09:43 AM

Ok guys, i have gotten rid of the tang and am thinking of which 2 fish can be the final additions to my tank.

Will it be safe to add a royal gramma and a yellowhead angelfish?

thegrun · 04/25/2014, 10:49 AM

Yes to the Royal Gramma, no to the Angelfish. The Angelfish will be very aggressive in a small tank, it requires a 120gallon tank minimum. The Yellowheads are also difficult to keep alive even in a large tank. Unfortunately your tank is too small for any Angelfish, even a dwarf.

username in use · 04/25/2014, 11:25 AM

Royal Gramma will work nicely. You might even pair it up with another one.

Any angel is out for your tank.

You could look into the smaller wrasse's as suitable fish. You could do a pair or trio of yellow coris wrasse's which would be a nice splash of color.

04/20/2014, 12:37 PM	#1
qasim99 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 146	How many fish in a 35 gallon tank What is the maximum amount of fish that i can put in a 35 gallon tank? I currently have 2 small clowns (about 1 inch in length) , a regal tang which is slightly bigger than the clowns.. along with a small molly and a red fire shrimp. I also have a pink spotted goby which is roughly over 2 inches in length. How many more can i add?(presuming i only add small fish) I also plan on adding a baby mandarin after 6 months or more, if all goes well

04/20/2014, 12:40 PM	#2
Mateous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 14	I would say you are done. Those fish may be small now but they do grow. The tang will soon outgrow that tank altogether. If you wanted you could possibly do some other shrimp. __________________ Using Tapatalk

04/20/2014, 11:41 PM	#7
ReeferKimberly Marley & Me Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 1,452	Your LFS wants to sell you fish. A 35 will practically never sustain a mandarin unless you get incredibly lucky and get one that eats dead food. I am sorry but like so many others we are tired of seeing people kill fish. Mandarins are not for small tanks, they just are not. You have already been told this elsewhere on the forum. When someone posts a question on an open forum they should expect people to comment, good or bad. If you really are so new that a regal tang and a mandarin are in mind (and you want to add even more) for a 35 and you really really have no idea what you are saying is like cramming 30 Saint Bernards in a dog house then I apologize, otherwise this seems like trolling, hence the not so positive comment. Last edited by ReeferKimberly; 04/20/2014 at 11:55 PM.

04/20/2014, 11:53 PM	#8
bnumair Dr. Reef at ur service Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA Posts: 7,751 Blog Entries: 15	i believe with the size of tank its already at max and again tang doesnt need to be in there. i know u said u will move it out, my feeling is that it probably wont survive at the size u mentioned. tangs under 2-3" have very low survival rateand more worse in a small tank like urs. Good luck. __________________ Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE

04/25/2014, 11:25 AM	#16
username in use Sciencing Daily Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,560	Royal Gramma will work nicely. You might even pair it up with another one. Any angel is out for your tank. You could look into the smaller wrasse's as suitable fish. You could do a pair or trio of yellow coris wrasse's which would be a nice splash of color. __________________ Joshua "With fronds like these, who needs anemones?" - Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: multiple nano's sprinkled around the house

04/20/2014, 03:59 PM	#3
avijay23 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Maine Posts: 72	+1 on no more fish. With bigger bioloads, even relatively minor fluctuations can upset the balance and stress fishes. Vijay

04/20/2014, 04:57 PM	#4
Cloudburst2000 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 1,485	I don't think a mandarin would do well in a 35g tank unless you have a huge sump where pods are being bred. Mandarins eat tons of pods and I just don't think most nano tanks would ever be able to support their appetite unless they have a large sump attached to them. Also, keep an eye on that regal tang. They get up to a foot in length, and I believe you will likely start seeing aggression issues with that tang in such a small tank. There is a reason why they are suggested for 180g+ aquariums. Tangs can get fairly aggressive when housed in too-small aquariums. And aggression issues can pop up out of the blue. It might be fine one day and the next day you might find it beating the crap out of your other fish. Just pay good attention to it. If you start seeing it being aggressive to tank mates, remove it immediately or you might suffer many fish casualties. And with that regal tang in there, you are already at max bioload. I think if you were to remove the tang that you could add a couple more small fish. But no more fish if the tang stays.

04/20/2014, 04:59 PM	#5
ReeferKimberly Marley & Me Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 1,452	A regal tang and a mandarin in a 35? You serious? April Fools was 20 days ago....

04/21/2014, 03:42 AM	#10
Every1jockzjay Moved On Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 515	I had a mandarin in a 5 month old 36 bow with 10gal sump, figured i had enouph pods to lat him a long time. I tried every method available to train him, although i think he ate live brine he eventually got skinny where his stomach was indented.. I brought him back to the lfs, he lasted about 5 happy months before pod pop was decimated... Dont count on training him, chances are he will only eat pods and you will never keep him long term. Imo if u can return him in a few months u can try it but do t let the thing starve to death, and get him extremely fat. As far as the tang, the tang police is guna b reall madd at that one ur not even closeee to the recomended size tank... Theres alot of advice telling u not to get these fish on this site and they are 100% correct. U can do what u want like i did, figured my 55lbs of lr would help some but when i saw my mandarin stressed i quickly returned him

04/21/2014, 07:18 AM	#11
qasim99 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 146	Thanks for all the help guys. I am still learning, so i appreciate all the advice.. its just a shame when some people come with nasty and sarcastic comments Thanks again, much appreciated. Any recommendations on which are some nice fish that will be compatible with my system? it is a 35 gallon with 15kg live rock.. 2 filters + a hang on skimmer and a powerhead

04/21/2014, 07:57 AM	#12
Xavibear Crazy Prophet Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 1,008	Get rid of the tang & forget about the mandarin. Start researching fish choices that will be more appropriate for your tank size.

04/25/2014, 09:43 AM	#14
qasim99 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 146	Ok guys, i have gotten rid of the tang and am thinking of which 2 fish can be the final additions to my tank. Will it be safe to add a royal gramma and a yellowhead angelfish?

04/25/2014, 10:49 AM	#15
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	Yes to the Royal Gramma, no to the Angelfish. The Angelfish will be very aggressive in a small tank, it requires a 120gallon tank minimum. The Yellowheads are also difficult to keep alive even in a large tank. Unfortunately your tank is too small for any Angelfish, even a dwarf.