Population in QT

JMorris271 · 07/22/2014, 03:47 PM

Is it safe to keep more than 1 fish or coral in QT at a time?
Do you QT LR one at a time?

Appreciate your views

JMorris271 · 07/22/2014, 07:49 PM

I did not realize my question was that difficult.Anyone?

gone fishin · 07/22/2014, 08:35 PM

I have never Qt LR. The other answer is it depends on the size of your QT and the type of fish you want QT.

JMorris271 · 07/22/2014, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone fishin

I have never Qt LR. The other answer is it depends on the size of your QT and the type of fish you want QT.

I asked a question last week about what folks QT. It seems most that responded do QT rock and sand. That was news to me but then again, what do I know? Thats why Im here.
So the only consideration with regard to the QT question is the size of the QT tank and types and sizes of fish and not the isolation of quarantine?

gone fishin · 07/22/2014, 09:44 PM

Qt LR and sand hmm never did that, unless you count the tank startup and cycle for a couple months.

As far as fish go your correct. For example I use a 29g QT. I currently have a 3-4 inch kole tang in there. With that fish it is the only one I would put in there. previously I have had a chromis, pajama cardinal and a royal gramma in there together. Hope that helps.

By isolation you mean the length of Qt, mine is 12 weeks. I like to err on the side caution. I have ich once on my first tank, no Qt, never since then it has been about 6 or 7 years now.

scubadan206 · 07/23/2014, 11:10 AM

Some fish, like tangs, will become much more accepting of each other if in quarantine together. Sometimes even bitter enemies becoming friends. I would use as large a tank as you are willing to do frequent water changes on. Get an ammonia badge and be careful with the expensive fish. They always seem the most delicate.

I had 4 tangs together in a 55 Q tank. I had to keep them separated at first, but now in my DT they all school together.
Daniel.

GroktheCube · 07/23/2014, 01:35 PM

I'm currently dealing with an ich outbreak caused by un-QTed inverts. If I were going to put new LR into an established tank, you can bet that I'd QT after my recent experience.

Deep Reef · 07/23/2014, 01:45 PM

+1, anything into an established tank should be qt'd. I too have gotten ich from introduction of corals

JMorris271 · 07/23/2014, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep Reef

+1, anything into an established tank should be qt'd. I too have gotten ich from introduction of corals

Not meaning to stray from my subject, but I was lead to believe that only fish could host Ich.

Deep Reef · 07/23/2014, 05:12 PM

Only fish can host. Anything wet that is brought into your tank can carry it from another source.

JMorris271 · 07/23/2014, 06:52 PM

Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

GroktheCube · 07/23/2014, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMorris271

Not meaning to stray from my subject, but I was lead to believe that only fish could host Ich.

Ich has a 4 stage life-cycle.

For one of those stages, it lives on/in the fish for 1-7 days.

It then hatches, swims down, and encysts on a hard surface for 3-72 days.

It's that cyst stage that inverts/rocks can carry. If they were in a tank with ich infected fish, a cyst could easily end up attached to them.

While the risk is lower than with fish, I learned the hard way that the odds aren't worth playing.

JMorris271 · 07/28/2014, 07:47 AM

What is the tank transfer treatment about and how does it work please?

Silly clownfish · 07/28/2014, 08:12 AM

For your original question - I recently asked something similar and the consensus was multiple critters can be ok as long as not too much livestock for size of QT. If fish and coral together, keep in mind that if the fish need to be treated, they will likely need to be moved to a separate hospital tank from the coral and that the coral will still need to stay in QT long enough to make sure that they aren't carriers for anything.

As for LR - my concern would not be fish diseases so much as aiptasia hiding in the nooks and crannies. Also depending on whether the LR was local or had been shipped, any die off in shipping could cause a mini-cycle. That is why I would quarantine in a bucket or rubbermaid to play it safe.

07/22/2014, 03:47 PM	#1
JMorris271 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Foothills of SC Posts: 2,010	Population in QT Is it safe to keep more than 1 fish or coral in QT at a time? Do you QT LR one at a time? Appreciate your views

07/22/2014, 08:35 PM	#3
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	I have never Qt LR. The other answer is it depends on the size of your QT and the type of fish you want QT. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

07/22/2014, 09:44 PM	#5
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	Qt LR and sand hmm never did that, unless you count the tank startup and cycle for a couple months. As far as fish go your correct. For example I use a 29g QT. I currently have a 3-4 inch kole tang in there. With that fish it is the only one I would put in there. previously I have had a chromis, pajama cardinal and a royal gramma in there together. Hope that helps. By isolation you mean the length of Qt, mine is 12 weeks. I like to err on the side caution. I have ich once on my first tank, no Qt, never since then it has been about 6 or 7 years now. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

07/23/2014, 01:45 PM	#8
Deep Reef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 1,192	+1, anything into an established tank should be qt'd. I too have gotten ich from introduction of corals __________________ Deep Reef ~Greg~ 150g DT, (2)AI Hydra 52 HD's, Vertex Omega 150 skimmer, jebao 1200DC main pump, Trigger Systems Sapphire 34 sump, (2) Ecotech WP40wQD, Tunze ATO, Apex Current Tank Info: 150g Reef

07/23/2014, 05:12 PM	#10
Deep Reef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 1,192	Only fish can host. Anything wet that is brought into your tank can carry it from another source. __________________ Deep Reef ~Greg~ 150g DT, (2)AI Hydra 52 HD's, Vertex Omega 150 skimmer, jebao 1200DC main pump, Trigger Systems Sapphire 34 sump, (2) Ecotech WP40wQD, Tunze ATO, Apex Current Tank Info: 150g Reef

07/22/2014, 07:49 PM	#2
JMorris271 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Foothills of SC Posts: 2,010	I did not realize my question was that difficult.Anyone?

07/23/2014, 11:10 AM	#6
scubadan206 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Kenosha WI Posts: 985	Some fish, like tangs, will become much more accepting of each other if in quarantine together. Sometimes even bitter enemies becoming friends. I would use as large a tank as you are willing to do frequent water changes on. Get an ammonia badge and be careful with the expensive fish. They always seem the most delicate. I had 4 tangs together in a 55 Q tank. I had to keep them separated at first, but now in my DT they all school together. Daniel.

07/23/2014, 01:35 PM	#7
GroktheCube Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,063	I'm currently dealing with an ich outbreak caused by un-QTed inverts. If I were going to put new LR into an established tank, you can bet that I'd QT after my recent experience.

07/23/2014, 06:52 PM	#11
JMorris271 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Foothills of SC Posts: 2,010	Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

07/28/2014, 07:47 AM	#13
JMorris271 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Foothills of SC Posts: 2,010	What is the tank transfer treatment about and how does it work please?

07/28/2014, 08:12 AM	#14
Silly clownfish Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 488	For your original question - I recently asked something similar and the consensus was multiple critters can be ok as long as not too much livestock for size of QT. If fish and coral together, keep in mind that if the fish need to be treated, they will likely need to be moved to a separate hospital tank from the coral and that the coral will still need to stay in QT long enough to make sure that they aren't carriers for anything. As for LR - my concern would not be fish diseases so much as aiptasia hiding in the nooks and crannies. Also depending on whether the LR was local or had been shipped, any die off in shipping could cause a mini-cycle. That is why I would quarantine in a bucket or rubbermaid to play it safe.