Need help programming APEX outlet

Jyetman · 10/31/2014, 07:29 PM

If my Top-Off outlet is in the on-position a virtual outlet can't override it so it puts it in the off position will this work? Can I create duplicate outlets with different programming functions? Creating a duplicate Top-Off outlet under a different name that controls the same outlet is this possible? I have two top-off buckets one is under a table sealed have a float switch installed. The first bucket fills the second so two pumps one in each bucket. When I fill the second sealed bucket I then fill the first bucket which keeps the second bucket filled until it empties. Since I can't see into that second hidden bucket I need that float switch to turn off my top-off pump while its refilling. Hope that makes sense.

slief · 10/31/2014, 08:08 PM

I'd suggest posting your question here at the Neptune forum. You will get your answer much quicker as there are a lot of Apex experts there.
http://forum.neptunesystems.com/foru...ng-ATO-and-AWC
What you are looking to do sounds like it should be doable...

raidendex · 10/31/2014, 08:31 PM

Could probably help, but need a better explanation of the set up.

As far as overriding outlet with virtual

If Outlet O1 = ON Then ON
would turn on outlet if some other outlet (real or virtual) is on, can change to ON to OFF etc.

My apex programming can be found here, maybe it will help
http://reef.verynotgood.info/apex/program/

Jyetman · 10/31/2014, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raidendex

Could probably help, but need a better explanation of the set up.

As far as overriding outlet with virtual

If Outlet O1 = ON Then ON
would turn on outlet if some other outlet (real or virtual) is on, can change to ON to OFF etc.

My apex programming can be found here, maybe it will help
http://reef.verynotgood.info/apex/program/

Two separate functions going on here. First function is the normal auto-top off which pulls water from second hidden bucket. On the same outlet another pump is simultaneously pulling water from the first bucket replenishing the second hidden bucket. So the second function is when both buckets are empty I disconnect the main top-off pump in the second hidden bucket so only the pump in the first bucket pumps water into the second bucket refilling it. Once that second bucket is filled I reconnect the top-off pump same outlet then fill the first bucket to complete task. To make my life easier I like to have a float in the second hidden bucket to turn off the pump in the first bucket when its full. Was thinking of a virtual outlet I can put in the auto function to monitor the float switch when triggered turns off the top-off outlet which would be in the ON-Position not Auto - both pumps are connected to same outlet. Need the virtual outlet to turn the Top-Off outlet off when triggered while in the On-Position.

raidendex · 10/31/2014, 09:18 PM

There is no way to cut power to one pump while keeping second on. Something has to be in between one of the pumps and the outlet, like a relay controlled by the float switch to cut power off. Is there no way to put the pumps on two separate physical outlets?

Jyetman · 10/31/2014, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raidendex

There is no way to cut power to one pump while keeping second on. Something has to be in between one of the pumps and the outlet, like a relay controlled by the float switch to cut power off. Is there no way to put the pumps on two separate physical outlets?

I physically unplug the top-off pump from the extension cord connected to the top-off outlet. Turn the top-off outlet on so the other pump fills the hidden bucket. I plan on buying another EB8 was hoping to find a programming solution to fit my need. It would be nice to program more then two alarm outlets for this reason. Even a simple command like if Sw6 OPEN then sound.

raidendex · 10/31/2014, 09:43 PM

so second pump would turn off based on the float switch then? if you have Apex breakout box you can wire that float switch there and use it to control the pump then, but again that would interfere with the other pump once it's back plugged in.

Jyetman · 10/31/2014, 09:58 PM

I could for now just monitor the switch in question on the apex dashboard while the bucket is filling and click off on the top-off outlet manually when it triggers.

10/31/2014, 07:29 PM	#1
Jyetman Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,712	Need help programming APEX outlet If my Top-Off outlet is in the on-position a virtual outlet can't override it so it puts it in the off position will this work? Can I create duplicate outlets with different programming functions? Creating a duplicate Top-Off outlet under a different name that controls the same outlet is this possible? I have two top-off buckets one is under a table sealed have a float switch installed. The first bucket fills the second so two pumps one in each bucket. When I fill the second sealed bucket I then fill the first bucket which keeps the second bucket filled until it empties. Since I can't see into that second hidden bucket I need that float switch to turn off my top-off pump while its refilling. Hope that makes sense. Last edited by Jyetman; 10/31/2014 at 07:54 PM.

10/31/2014, 08:08 PM	#2
slief RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 14,173	I'd suggest posting your question here at the Neptune forum. You will get your answer much quicker as there are a lot of Apex experts there. http://forum.neptunesystems.com/foru...ng-ATO-and-AWC What you are looking to do sounds like it should be doable... __________________ Director Customer Support Royal Exclusiv USA For All Royal Exclusiv & Bubble King questions please refer to our Sponsor forum: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=745 Current Tank Info: 480G display mixed reef, 90G sump, 90G refugium, 60G display refugium. Check out my build thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1783476

10/31/2014, 08:31 PM	#3
raidendex Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ocoee, FL Posts: 1,124	Could probably help, but need a better explanation of the set up. As far as overriding outlet with virtual If Outlet O1 = ON Then ON would turn on outlet if some other outlet (real or virtual) is on, can change to ON to OFF etc. My apex programming can be found here, maybe it will help http://reef.verynotgood.info/apex/program/ __________________ Michael Current Tank Info: 180g Discus Planted

10/31/2014, 09:18 PM	#5
raidendex Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ocoee, FL Posts: 1,124	There is no way to cut power to one pump while keeping second on. Something has to be in between one of the pumps and the outlet, like a relay controlled by the float switch to cut power off. Is there no way to put the pumps on two separate physical outlets? __________________ Michael Current Tank Info: 180g Discus Planted

10/31/2014, 09:43 PM	#7
raidendex Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ocoee, FL Posts: 1,124	so second pump would turn off based on the float switch then? if you have Apex breakout box you can wire that float switch there and use it to control the pump then, but again that would interfere with the other pump once it's back plugged in. __________________ Michael Current Tank Info: 180g Discus Planted

10/31/2014, 09:58 PM	#8
Jyetman Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,712	I could for now just monitor the switch in question on the apex dashboard while the bucket is filling and click off on the top-off outlet manually when it triggers.