Can I run the drain lines directly beneath the sump water line?

DirtinLa · 01/19/2015, 06:54 AM

Trying to quiet the splash noise going into the sump?

I presume there's a purpose for the water splashing into the sump?

Air ?

Can I do this?

Thanx in advance

-=Fred=-

azjohnny · 01/19/2015, 06:58 AM

Running the drain under the waters surface and into a felt sock will quiet the splashing sound

SammyL · 01/19/2015, 07:45 AM

That is how I have mine set up.

blueramSeattle · 01/19/2015, 10:45 AM

Look up "P trap" (like under your sink). I for one prefer the sound of water running over gurgles in the plumbing due to trapped air. It takes time to tune the drain for balance.

ostrow · 01/19/2015, 10:52 AM

I have a basement setup. Drain lines are submerged below the sump water level. Be sure you have oversized drain lines though! I have 1" bulkheads that adapt at the tank to 1.5" lines.

biecacka · 01/19/2015, 10:53 AM

Only slightly below the water level tho. If they are too deep you could risk too much back pressure on the lines thus slowing down your drain. I just had this issue. I cut mine and back have no more issues.

Corey

ostrow · 01/19/2015, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biecacka

Only slightly below the water level tho. If they are too deep you could risk too much back pressure on the lines thus slowing down your drain. I just had this issue. I cut mine and back have no more issues.

Corey

True that. The requirements sort of depend on the architecture. With a 15' drop in my case, that isn't much of an issue. Gravity really helps!

DirtinLa · 01/19/2015, 11:40 AM

Thanx everyone for your responses... seems below the sump surface is the norm... that being the case... why in the world would the sump manufacturers build the sump with sock holders above the waterline... seem they should at least be at the water line min...

here's a link to my sump:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=24529

Mine is the R200 on a 150 with dual overflows... matter of fact I removed the socks because the design is soooo poor if you do not do an every other day sock change the water would overflow and splash out the back of the sump.

jonwright · 01/20/2015, 03:01 PM

one of the reasons there are folks that don't run filter socks....

DirtinLa · 01/21/2015, 11:42 AM

AHHHH quiet sanctuary...

Thanx everyone for the assistance

01/19/2015, 06:54 AM	#1
DirtinLa Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 139	Can I run the drain lines directly beneath the sump water line? Trying to quiet the splash noise going into the sump? I presume there's a purpose for the water splashing into the sump? Air ? Can I do this? Thanx in advance -=Fred=-

01/19/2015, 07:45 AM	#3
SammyL Reefer Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 313	That is how I have mine set up. __________________ Sammy Current Tank Info: 180 DT, 705 Hydor Skimmer, 55 gallong sump with fuge, 2 x Lumentek 240 Pro

01/19/2015, 10:52 AM	#5
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	I have a basement setup. Drain lines are submerged below the sump water level. Be sure you have oversized drain lines though! I have 1" bulkheads that adapt at the tank to 1.5" lines. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

01/19/2015, 06:58 AM	#2
azjohnny Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Gold Canyon Posts: 2,914	Running the drain under the waters surface and into a felt sock will quiet the splashing sound

01/19/2015, 10:45 AM	#4
blueramSeattle Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 132	Look up "P trap" (like under your sink). I for one prefer the sound of water running over gurgles in the plumbing due to trapped air. It takes time to tune the drain for balance.

01/19/2015, 10:53 AM	#6
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Only slightly below the water level tho. If they are too deep you could risk too much back pressure on the lines thus slowing down your drain. I just had this issue. I cut mine and back have no more issues. Corey

01/19/2015, 11:40 AM	#8
DirtinLa Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 139	Thanx everyone for your responses... seems below the sump surface is the norm... that being the case... why in the world would the sump manufacturers build the sump with sock holders above the waterline... seem they should at least be at the water line min... here's a link to my sump: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=24529 Mine is the R200 on a 150 with dual overflows... matter of fact I removed the socks because the design is soooo poor if you do not do an every other day sock change the water would overflow and splash out the back of the sump.

01/20/2015, 03:01 PM	#9
jonwright Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 658	one of the reasons there are folks that don't run filter socks....

01/21/2015, 11:42 AM	#10
DirtinLa Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 139	AHHHH quiet sanctuary... Thanx everyone for the assistance