Are There Ill Affects of Using Too Much Garlic

scooter31707 · 02/27/2015, 12:07 PM

Hello All,

In all of my research, it implies to soak the fish food in garlic. So my LFS told me that it is not good to use garlic on every feeding. They stated to use garlic about once a week. They said that too much garlic will mess with the organs of the fish. Is this true or have any of you heard of this theory?

MysteryReef · 02/27/2015, 12:17 PM

Not sure about the organs, but I know garlic breath can be an issue....this may deter mating

Kyle461 · 02/27/2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MysteryReef

Not sure about the organs, but I know garlic breath can be an issue....this may deter mating

Beat me to it....

Sk8r · 02/27/2015, 12:35 PM

Lol---VARY their food. A little garlic seems to be a treat. Like anything else, overdoing it down one track is not necessarily better.

Breadman03 · 02/27/2015, 12:37 PM

There are studies showing it causes liver damage. I read some of the references, but didn't bookmark them and can't provide them.

mmn · 02/27/2015, 01:10 PM

Should keep vampires out of the tank...

ReefsandGeeks · 02/27/2015, 01:37 PM

I've also heard the possibility of ill effects. Realy it's not necessary unless your fish are very picky eaters. there's some debate over whether it helps with immune sstem or not, but I'm no expert so who knows.

scooter31707 · 02/27/2015, 01:57 PM

So should garlic be used at every feeding?

laga77 · 02/27/2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter31707

So should garlic be used at every feeding?

No

Dmorty217 · 02/27/2015, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Breadman03

There are studies showing it causes liver damage. I read some of the references, but didn't bookmark them and can't provide them.

This is a fact, garlic to entice fish to eat is good. Feeding it as some sort of immunity booster or ich cure is just BS

gone fishin · 02/27/2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

This is a fact, garlic to entice fish to eat is good. Feeding it as some sort of immunity booster or ich cure is just BS

This

cloak · 02/27/2015, 03:42 PM

Check these out.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=28

HTH.

FishN00b83 · 02/27/2015, 04:49 PM

garlic gets the fish to eat food, but I heard it can also hurt them. I have not given anything in my tank in a long time. I have found that some vitamin formulas like vita-Chem to get fish to eat just as good and it's actually helping them. I soak mysis in it before feeding

Breadman03 · 02/28/2015, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cloak

Check these out.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=28

HTH.

Thanks! I wasn't about to scour the Web on my iPhone while on hotel Wifi for the info. That would have taken forever!

FraggledRock · 02/28/2015, 11:28 AM

I put 2 drops when i make the weekly mysis+brine mix of one square of each m some tank water.

billdogg · 02/28/2015, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cloak

Check these out.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=28

HTH.

Thanks for posting those links. I've never used garlic in any form in my tanks. After reading those, especially the first, I don't think I'll start any time soon either.

snorvich · 02/28/2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

This is a fact, garlic to entice fish to eat is good. Feeding it as some sort of immunity booster or ich cure is just BS

I agree. There are studies showing garlic is not good for fish long term. My blog has postings about such if you are interested.

ca1ore · 02/28/2015, 04:38 PM

Read this ......

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2352039

..... and then decide for yourself. Personally, I never used garlic for my fish; simply never found it useful at all, even as an appetite stimulant. If a fish was going to eat, it would eat; if it wasn't going to, no garlic or anything else would help. IMO.

Dmorty217 · 02/28/2015, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

If a fish was going to eat, it would eat; if it wasn't going to, no garlic or anything else would help. IMO.

I too believe this is true

Nanodoc · 02/28/2015, 06:18 PM

I think we are trying to emulate nature as close as possible, in lighting, water parameters etc, etc.
How in the world are we giving them garlic, which is not found naturally in the ocean?
Does anyone have an idea how all of this started?

Dmorty217 · 02/28/2015, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanodoc

I think we are trying to emulate nature as close as possible, in lighting, water parameters etc, etc.
How in the world are we giving them garlic, which is not found naturally in the ocean?
Does anyone have an idea how all of this started?

Pretty sure it started in zoos and research institutions as a appetite stimulant and then someone who is a marketing genius made a correlation between garlic and immune system "boosting" and now you see it and is talked about at every LFS you go to basically. Way for them to sell you something that has limited at best effects

02/27/2015, 12:07 PM	#1
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	Are There Ill Affects of Using Too Much Garlic Hello All, In all of my research, it implies to soak the fish food in garlic. So my LFS told me that it is not good to use garlic on every feeding. They stated to use garlic about once a week. They said that too much garlic will mess with the organs of the fish. Is this true or have any of you heard of this theory?

02/27/2015, 12:35 PM	#4
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Lol---VARY their food. A little garlic seems to be a treat. Like anything else, overdoing it down one track is not necessarily better. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

02/27/2015, 01:10 PM	#6
mmn Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 340	Should keep vampires out of the tank... __________________ Regards Michael 125g DT, Jebao DC9000, BA drain, 55g sump, Mixing: 2x32g Brutes, Panworld 30PX, 20l QT, RLSS R6I skimmer, 3 x Kessil A360WE, Neptune Apex. Current Tank Info: 2 clowns, 2 blue-green chromis, 2 Duncans and 2 GSPs

02/27/2015, 04:49 PM	#13
FishN00b83 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,140	garlic gets the fish to eat food, but I heard it can also hurt them. I have not given anything in my tank in a long time. I have found that some vitamin formulas like vita-Chem to get fish to eat just as good and it's actually helping them. I soak mysis in it before feeding __________________ My 125 to 180 thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2525019

02/28/2015, 11:28 AM	#15
FraggledRock Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: New York, New York Posts: 2,185	I put 2 drops when i make the weekly mysis+brine mix of one square of each m some tank water. __________________ “For most of history, man has had to fight nature to survive; in this century he is beginning to realize that, in order to survive, he must protect it.”― Jacques-Yves Cousteau MarineBio.org Current Tank Info: 40 Gallon Breeder w/ Bean Animal Overflow 20G Sump, Mixed Reef.

02/27/2015, 12:17 PM	#2
MysteryReef Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 70	Not sure about the organs, but I know garlic breath can be an issue....this may deter mating

02/27/2015, 12:37 PM	#5
Breadman03 New Old School Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Luzerne County, PA Posts: 3,293	There are studies showing it causes liver damage. I read some of the references, but didn't bookmark them and can't provide them.

02/27/2015, 01:37 PM	#7
ReefsandGeeks Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,708	I've also heard the possibility of ill effects. Realy it's not necessary unless your fish are very picky eaters. there's some debate over whether it helps with immune sstem or not, but I'm no expert so who knows.

02/27/2015, 01:57 PM	#8
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	So should garlic be used at every feeding?

02/27/2015, 03:42 PM	#12
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	Check these out. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=28 HTH.

02/28/2015, 04:38 PM	#18
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Read this ...... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2352039 ..... and then decide for yourself. Personally, I never used garlic for my fish; simply never found it useful at all, even as an appetite stimulant. If a fish was going to eat, it would eat; if it wasn't going to, no garlic or anything else would help. IMO. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/28/2015, 06:18 PM	#20
Nanodoc Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 253	I think we are trying to emulate nature as close as possible, in lighting, water parameters etc, etc. How in the world are we giving them garlic, which is not found naturally in the ocean? Does anyone have an idea how all of this started?