Need Help ASAP!!!! PLEASEEEEEE

stgal · 03/27/2015, 06:42 AM

We have had our salt water tank for about a year now. We have a 45 gallon tank. We have a few corals, some anemones, a flame angel fish, a clown fish, a butterfly fish, yellow tang and 3 small fish. The other night I noticed the clown fish staying under a rock and not swimming around like he normally does. The next morning we get up and he looks horrible. Very pale and cloudy eyes. My beautiful angelfish was pink almost no color at all. We have lost a couple of the small fish and a we lost my flame angelfish. The clown is still hanging in there. I rushed to the local fish store and they tested my water and said it is PERFECT but the salt was a little high. We have lowered the salt and its reading at a constant 1.025 Before we go to bed all the fish look okay all but the (clown)but in the morning they are covered in white spots or specks. Please help me!!! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 06:48 AM

Probably ich or velvet.. post pictures of the fish

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 06:49 AM

what size tank is it? Do you have a qt set up? if not can you get one set up asap. You may not have much time left

stgal · 03/27/2015, 06:51 AM

Its a 45 gallon tank! No I do not have a qt tank setup. So I need to quarantine my clown?

Pokahpolice · 03/27/2015, 06:51 AM

Sounds like Ich. Just search under Ich and you'll find a thousand threads. There are many approaches. Copper, TTM (tank transfer method), Hyposalinity, doing nothing but feeding garlic...read, read, read, and then decide on an approach. I'm currently treating for Ich as well. Decided to go with Copper but the treatment so far has taken out a few fish.

stgal · 03/27/2015, 07:01 AM

Thank you!!!

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:01 AM

+1.. read! There is tons of information out there but you may not have a lot of time if they are "covered" I would consider getting a qt tank up and running asap and pull all the fish out and begin treating with cupermine

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:03 AM

and picture would still be useful, you said one of your fish was pink..

stgal · 03/27/2015, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by srva80

and picture would still be useful, you said one of your fish was pink..

Yes it was my flame angelfish which is now dead. I will have to post a picture later. Thank you!

Pokahpolice · 03/27/2015, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by srva80

+1.. read! There is tons of information out there but you may not have a lot of time if they are "covered" I would consider getting a qt tank up and running asap and pull all the fish out and begin treating with cupermine

I would suggest the same thing but just understand that copper is toxic. You'll need a copper test kit and follow the directions to a "T". DO NOT treat copper in your DT or you will kill everything.

Jim.mer · 03/27/2015, 07:15 AM

ouch, Too many fish causes stress, Your 45 is loaded up, A Butterfly really? The Tang is on the border as well, You need to set up a Hospital/Quarantien tank like now and treat those fish, You will probably lose some. Read about the treatment but in the future I would recommend les fish. Your Coral should be your top priority or run a FOWLR tank, Good Luck

stgal · 03/27/2015, 07:19 AM

Here are the only pics I have right now. Not very good ones I am sorry.

Pokahpolice · 03/27/2015, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim.mer

ouch, Too many fish causes stress, Your 45 is loaded up, A Butterfly really? The Tang is on the border as well, You need to set up a Hospital/Quarantien tank like now and treat those fish, You will probably lose some. Read about the treatment but in the future I would recommend les fish. Your Coral should be your top priority or run a FOWLR tank, Good Luck

I kind of left that alone but I agree 100%.

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokahpolice

I kind of left that alone but I agree 100%.

yea.. now there's a sailfin in the mix as well

stgal · 03/27/2015, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim.mer

ouch, Too many fish causes stress, Your 45 is loaded up, A Butterfly really? The Tang is on the border as well, You need to set up a Hospital/Quarantien tank like now and treat those fish, You will probably lose some. Read about the treatment but in the future I would recommend les fish. Your Coral should be your top priority or run a FOWLR tank, Good Luck

Thanks

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:29 AM

My last piece of advice if not to listen to you LFS about anything.. but good luck with everything

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by srva80

My last piece of advice if not to listen to you LFS about anything.. but good luck with everything

And this was in response to the post about your LFS not telling you had too many fish or whatever it was that you deleted

stgal · 03/27/2015, 07:31 AM

Can someone please delete my thread. Thanks! Sorry I said I am new to this and am unsure of what fish I have. My husband is the one who buys them and takes care of them. I just feed them for him!!!!!! Thanks for the help! Please delete!!!!

Pokahpolice · 03/27/2015, 07:32 AM

Unfortunately you're not getting sound advise. It's not the number of fish you have. It's the type of fish you have.

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:34 AM

We were just trying to give you advice on what to do.. we've all been there.

You have ich in your tank. It doesn't just go away on its own, it needs to be treated. The comment about too many fish was implying ich is brought out by stress, and too many fish (or fish that need a larger tank) in a small tank will create stress..

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokahpolice

Unfortunately you're not getting sound advise. It's not the number of fish you have. It's the type of fish you have.

I agree with that

stgal · 03/27/2015, 07:37 AM

Thank you all! Hopefully they will be okay. Next time I will verify what type of fish we have before posting and getting everyone freaked out over what we have in our tank. SORRY guys

Pokahpolice · 03/27/2015, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stgal

Can someone please delete my thread. Thanks! Sorry I said I am new to this and am unsure of what fish I have. My husband is the one who buys them and takes care of them. I just feed them for him!!!!!! Thanks for the help! Please delete!!!!

We are telling you what your LFS should have. You really shouldn't take offense to it and you should probably stick around the forum to tell your husband to stop listening to the store.

Link below will give you an overview of each fish. The first piece of info it provides is Minimum Tank Size. Look up a few of your fish and you'll understand where we are coming from.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/a...plies.cfm?c=15

srva80 · 03/27/2015, 07:42 AM

regardless of how many or what kind of fish you have now.. they are sick and need your help, do some research on ich and into getting a qt set up.

Jim.mer · 03/27/2015, 07:57 AM

Hey don't be offended, We are here to help. One of the best decisions I ever made was to put a Yellow Tang in my 55 GL years ago and yes I had the Tang Police all over me BUT He ate a great portion of the Algea I had in my tank and relieved a lot of stress. This is how all of us have learned. By making mistakes. Be Happy and follow advice.

03/27/2015, 06:42 AM	#1
stgal Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25	Need Help ASAP!!!! PLEASEEEEEE We have had our salt water tank for about a year now. We have a 45 gallon tank. We have a few corals, some anemones, a flame angel fish, a clown fish, a butterfly fish, yellow tang and 3 small fish. The other night I noticed the clown fish staying under a rock and not swimming around like he normally does. The next morning we get up and he looks horrible. Very pale and cloudy eyes. My beautiful angelfish was pink almost no color at all. We have lost a couple of the small fish and a we lost my flame angelfish. The clown is still hanging in there. I rushed to the local fish store and they tested my water and said it is PERFECT but the salt was a little high. We have lowered the salt and its reading at a constant 1.025 Before we go to bed all the fish look okay all but the (clown)but in the morning they are covered in white spots or specks. Please help me!!! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

03/27/2015, 07:15 AM	#11
Jim.mer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North Bay,Ont Posts: 235	Ick ouch, Too many fish causes stress, Your 45 is loaded up, A Butterfly really? The Tang is on the border as well, You need to set up a Hospital/Quarantien tank like now and treat those fish, You will probably lose some. Read about the treatment but in the future I would recommend les fish. Your Coral should be your top priority or run a FOWLR tank, Good Luck __________________ JBJ 12 in the works, I said to my self, my self I said, Maybe i'll go LED No my self said No, MH all the way Current Tank Info: 12 jbj settin up soon, no fish, just inverts, hermits,softies,LPS

03/27/2015, 07:57 AM	#25
Jim.mer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North Bay,Ont Posts: 235	Hey don't be offended, We are here to help. One of the best decisions I ever made was to put a Yellow Tang in my 55 GL years ago and yes I had the Tang Police all over me BUT He ate a great portion of the Algea I had in my tank and relieved a lot of stress. This is how all of us have learned. By making mistakes. Be Happy and follow advice. __________________ JBJ 12 in the works, I said to my self, my self I said, Maybe i'll go LED No my self said No, MH all the way Current Tank Info: 12 jbj settin up soon, no fish, just inverts, hermits,softies,LPS

03/27/2015, 06:48 AM	#2
srva80 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 49	Probably ich or velvet.. post pictures of the fish

03/27/2015, 06:49 AM	#3
srva80 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 49	what size tank is it? Do you have a qt set up? if not can you get one set up asap. You may not have much time left

03/27/2015, 06:51 AM	#4
stgal Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25	Its a 45 gallon tank! No I do not have a qt tank setup. So I need to quarantine my clown?

03/27/2015, 06:51 AM	#5
Pokahpolice Moved On Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Maine Posts: 114	Sounds like Ich. Just search under Ich and you'll find a thousand threads. There are many approaches. Copper, TTM (tank transfer method), Hyposalinity, doing nothing but feeding garlic...read, read, read, and then decide on an approach. I'm currently treating for Ich as well. Decided to go with Copper but the treatment so far has taken out a few fish.

03/27/2015, 07:01 AM	#6
stgal Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25	Thank you!!!

03/27/2015, 07:03 AM	#8
srva80 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 49	and picture would still be useful, you said one of your fish was pink..

03/27/2015, 07:29 AM	#16
srva80 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 49	My last piece of advice if not to listen to you LFS about anything.. but good luck with everything

03/27/2015, 07:31 AM	#18
stgal Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25	Can someone please delete my thread. Thanks! Sorry I said I am new to this and am unsure of what fish I have. My husband is the one who buys them and takes care of them. I just feed them for him!!!!!! Thanks for the help! Please delete!!!!

03/27/2015, 07:32 AM	#19
Pokahpolice Moved On Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Maine Posts: 114	Unfortunately you're not getting sound advise. It's not the number of fish you have. It's the type of fish you have.

03/27/2015, 07:34 AM	#20
srva80 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 49	We were just trying to give you advice on what to do.. we've all been there. You have ich in your tank. It doesn't just go away on its own, it needs to be treated. The comment about too many fish was implying ich is brought out by stress, and too many fish (or fish that need a larger tank) in a small tank will create stress..

03/27/2015, 07:37 AM	#22
stgal Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25	Thank you all! Hopefully they will be okay. Next time I will verify what type of fish we have before posting and getting everyone freaked out over what we have in our tank. SORRY guys

03/27/2015, 07:42 AM	#24
srva80 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 49	regardless of how many or what kind of fish you have now.. they are sick and need your help, do some research on ich and into getting a qt set up.