Problems with my aquarium...

Al_katone · 03/31/2015, 09:12 PM

Hello guys im trying to find any information or something that help me out, because i cant solve the problem that my aquarium has ...

my aquarium has 2 years , everything was ok, i had a DSB bucket, but i had so many problems with it, that suddenly 1 day it was licking again so i decided to take it out from the tank, that day i used like 200 grams of that sand, and i put it in the main display ... after that day (it was like 4 months ago) a very thin algae its always in the rocks and the sand ... 1 month ago i installed a GFO reactor and the algae its going out but it still there...

its a Brown thin layer :/ it bothers my corals im tired of it

If you use a turkey baster it goes away but some hours later it comes again ... n again ...
its improving with the GFO but i dont want to improve i want to make it dissapear ...

Parameters

Phosphate 0ppm
Nitrate 5ppm
Calcium 450ppm
Magnesium 1300
Alk 8
salinity 1.025

I got an ATI lamp x 6 bulbs
in my sump i got a reef octopus skimmer with 2 reactors one for GFO and the other one with marineland carbon... i make water changes of 10 % every 10 days with red sea Coral pro salt ...
the aquarium capacity its 300 litters(79Gallons) including sump

delor · 03/31/2015, 10:01 PM

Is it just in the sand or on your rocks too? How much flow is in your tank?

Al_katone · 03/31/2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by delor

Is it just in the sand or on your rocks too? How much flow is in your tank?

Sand and rocks , my flow? i got x5 pumps 2 koralias 1050 gph and 3 tunze nano wavemakers plus the return pump

can you see the pictures? i put some pictures :S

Azedenkae · 03/31/2015, 11:00 PM

After you blast it away, do you do a water change? Or any sort of manual removal?

Al_katone · 04/01/2015, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Azedenkae

After you blast it away, do you do a water change? Or any sort of manual removal?

yes man every 10 days i make a water change of 10 % with red sea coral pro salt, and I siphon it

Azedenkae · 04/01/2015, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Al_katone

yes man every 10 days i make a water change of 10 % with red sea coral pro salt, and I siphon it

Hm, might not be enough perhaps. When you blast the stuff and don't remove much of it manually, then a lot of it comes back again soon anyways as it sorta just floats around in the water then settles down again. xD GFO and stuff like that doesn't really work directly against the stuff you blast off in this case.

Dkuhlmann · 04/01/2015, 02:08 AM

So am I right to assume that your actual tank is around 55-60 gal and the fish I see which are 3 tangs, are in your tank?

tzylak · 04/01/2015, 07:50 AM

Consider reducing the duration and intensity of your lighting to reduce the amount of growth.
Consider reintroducing the RDSB to remove the Nitrates and starving away the algae.
Good luck!

Kyle461 · 04/01/2015, 08:00 AM

Sounds like you're describing diatoms ("brown algae"). Everyone goes through it and it seems to reintroduce itself from time to time. Mine went away after a week or so. Knocking back the lights for a while should help as well.

Jade5051 · 04/01/2015, 09:36 AM

Do you have filter socks to help catch the algae after you blast it away?

Sk8r · 04/01/2015, 10:38 AM

First off, the filter socks wouldn't be a bad idea. Secondly, we have a how-to in the stickies above which would help you: SETTING UP. Thirdly, you have way too much fish load for that tank, which is a goby-blenny-dwarf angel-fairy wrasse sort of tank, if a 55, and what and how much they eat is part of the general problem. Part of your solution would be to reimagine that tank and try to trade for some fish which will put less strain on the system.

Al_katone · 04/01/2015, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azedenkae

Hm, might not be enough perhaps. When you blast the stuff and don't remove much of it manually, then a lot of it comes back again soon anyways as it sorta just floats around in the water then settles down again. xD GFO and stuff like that doesn't really work directly against the stuff you blast off in this case.

Well the problem is that i dont have enough space to put something more :S im thinking about getting again the RDSB, but my question is, the sand i had have been without water and in a little warehouse that i have at home, should i clean it with water and install it again? it wont make the cycle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dkuhlmann

So am I right to assume that your actual tank is around 55-60 gal and the fish I see which are 3 tangs, are in your tank?

Indeed, 2 clownfishes allardies and 3 tangs the tank size is 63 G

Quote:

Originally Posted by tzylak

Consider reducing the duration and intensity of your lighting to reduce the amount of growth.
Consider reintroducing the RDSB to remove the Nitrates and starving away the algae.
Good luck!

yes im really thinking about it, like i said to azedenkae, if i wash the rdsb and i installed again it wont make the cycle again O.o?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle461

Sounds like you're describing diatoms ("brown algae"). Everyone goes through it and it seems to reintroduce itself from time to time. Mine went away after a week or so. Knocking back the lights for a while should help as well.

i will try it then

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Originally Posted by Jade5051

Do you have filter socks to help catch the algae after you blast it away?

no bro the problem is that i dont have the space in my sump to do it, i blast it away and i make the water change in that moment, and i siphon the rocks + some sand and the sump. its improving i will think about the filter socks, i need to find the way to put them in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8r

First off, the filter socks wouldn't be a bad idea. Secondly, we have a how-to in the stickies above which would help you: SETTING UP. Thirdly, you have way too much fish load for that tank, which is a goby-blenny-dwarf angel-fairy wrasse sort of tank, if a 55, and what and how much they eat is part of the general problem. Part of your solution would be to reimagine that tank and try to trade for some fish which will put less strain on the system.

well my blue tang has 3 years with me

, the other 2 tangs has like 1 year? and i didnt have the problem, everything started when i uninstalled the rdsb bucket. i will install it again, but my question is, if i removed the sand and the sand have been in a little warehouse at home, can i wash it and install it again? it wont create the cycle ? cuz i have some corals in my tank and i dont want to have an ammoonia spike

thank you for your help

Sk8r · 04/01/2015, 03:02 PM

If the sand is dry, you can wash it thoroughly and use some Prime to dechlorinate. If it's wet and there's black in it, toss it. FYI, some corals are able to tolerate ammonia better than fishes, but let's try not to have any ammonia. Prime can also remove ammonia, so test and be sure, and it is safe in a coral reef---I've done it with sps and had no problem.

BigCountry74 · 04/01/2015, 05:12 PM

tank is 2 years old. the original 6 bulbs 2 years old as well? if so you will need to replace those bulbs asap

. there lies your problem.

Al_katone · 04/02/2015, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCountry74

tank is 2 years old. the original 6 bulbs 2 years old as well? if so you will need to replace those bulbs asap

. there lies your problem.

haha no bro i changed the bulbs every 10 - 12 months

i will try to reinstall the bucket of sand

Al_katone · 04/02/2015, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8r

If the sand is dry, you can wash it thoroughly and use some Prime to dechlorinate. If it's wet and there's black in it, toss it. FYI, some corals are able to tolerate ammonia better than fishes, but let's try not to have any ammonia. Prime can also remove ammonia, so test and be sure, and it is safe in a coral reef---I've done it with sps and had no problem.

well the bucket had some salt water, i didnt wash out the bucket because i was really angry at that moment ... i tried to repair that bucket several times, but everytime i repaired it , weeks later it started to lick again, so i was really

hahaha i need to change the bulkhead and use an uniseal

and wash the aragonite and use some reef boster + prodibio for the ammonia spike

thanks im motivated

Clowny88 · 04/03/2015, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle461

Sounds like you're describing diatoms ("brown algae"). Everyone goes through it and it seems to reintroduce itself from time to time. Mine went away after a week or so. Knocking back the lights for a while should help as well.

This was my first thought from your description... Even more so when you put your pics up.

Silicates found in sand feed diatom blooms. So (I'm just guessing here)... Possibly introducing new sand, disturbing it in the process, put some previously stagnant particles back in the water column... Feeding your bloom.

That being said... Diatom blooms look nasty for a couple weeks and right when it seems it can't get any worse, it up and disappears.

danielmitchell · 04/04/2015, 06:29 AM

Will you remove you sandbed in your display after you install the bucket sandbed?

Al_katone · 04/04/2015, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by danielmitchell

Will you remove you sandbed in your display after you install the bucket sandbed?

no man i will keep my sand in my main display, and maybe i will install the bucket again , i dont know, cuz the algae problem is disappearing

FarmerTy · 04/07/2015, 12:13 PM

I believe the brown stuff is dinos, not diatoms. In that case, hydrogen peroxide dosing will help. 1ml per 10 gallons dosed daily during the lighted hours.

acrohead500ppm · 04/07/2015, 12:26 PM

Here is my advice:

1. find proper housing for those tangs!!! When that naso and hippo reach sexual maturity your 65gallon tank is going to turn into thunderdome. Not to mention, both naso and paracanthurus tangs need to be in large reef 150+gallons tanks only in the first place. Sailfin is probably okay, but still zebrasoma tangs in tanks less than 100 gallons is debateable.

2.Get some snails and crabs and keep your glass squeeky clean until the snails have the rocks clean, then make sure to leave the back panel untouched so they don't starve.

^^^^Just my .02.

03/31/2015, 09:12 PM	#1
Al_katone Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merida,yucatan, mexico Posts: 52	Problems with my aquarium... Hello guys im trying to find any information or something that help me out, because i cant solve the problem that my aquarium has ... my aquarium has 2 years , everything was ok, i had a DSB bucket, but i had so many problems with it, that suddenly 1 day it was licking again so i decided to take it out from the tank, that day i used like 200 grams of that sand, and i put it in the main display ... after that day (it was like 4 months ago) a very thin algae its always in the rocks and the sand ... 1 month ago i installed a GFO reactor and the algae its going out but it still there... its a Brown thin layer :/ it bothers my corals im tired of it If you use a turkey baster it goes away but some hours later it comes again ... n again ... its improving with the GFO but i dont want to improve i want to make it dissapear ... Parameters Phosphate 0ppm Nitrate 5ppm Calcium 450ppm Magnesium 1300 Alk 8 salinity 1.025 I got an ATI lamp x 6 bulbs in my sump i got a reef octopus skimmer with 2 reactors one for GFO and the other one with marineland carbon... i make water changes of 10 % every 10 days with red sea Coral pro salt ... the aquarium capacity its 300 litters(79Gallons) including sump

03/31/2015, 10:01 PM	#2
delor Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,124	Is it just in the sand or on your rocks too? How much flow is in your tank? __________________ Surviving is different than thriving! Current Tank Info: Current: 90 gal RR reef tank, LED. Old:55gal RR, 440W VHO, 80# LR, LS, 20gal sump, SCWD. 5 gallon nano, 75 gal FOWLR

04/01/2015, 08:00 AM	#9
Kyle461 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 438	Sounds like you're describing diatoms ("brown algae"). Everyone goes through it and it seems to reintroduce itself from time to time. Mine went away after a week or so. Knocking back the lights for a while should help as well. __________________ Nadie me paga en chicles!! Build Thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2485917 Current Tank Info: 40 gallon breeder (2/17/15); 20L 3-chamber sump; Tunze Nano ATO; Hydor 320gph return and Circulation 850 gph; Coralife Super Skimmer 125 G; Marineland 24"-36" Reef LED

04/01/2015, 09:36 AM	#10
Jade5051 That guy... Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,218	Do you have filter socks to help catch the algae after you blast it away? __________________ The dream that is now a memory - http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2550891

04/01/2015, 10:38 AM	#11
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	First off, the filter socks wouldn't be a bad idea. Secondly, we have a how-to in the stickies above which would help you: SETTING UP. Thirdly, you have way too much fish load for that tank, which is a goby-blenny-dwarf angel-fairy wrasse sort of tank, if a 55, and what and how much they eat is part of the general problem. Part of your solution would be to reimagine that tank and try to trade for some fish which will put less strain on the system. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/31/2015, 11:00 PM	#4
Azedenkae Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,196	After you blast it away, do you do a water change? Or any sort of manual removal?

04/01/2015, 02:08 AM	#7
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	So am I right to assume that your actual tank is around 55-60 gal and the fish I see which are 3 tangs, are in your tank?

04/01/2015, 07:50 AM	#8
tzylak Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 457	Consider reducing the duration and intensity of your lighting to reduce the amount of growth. Consider reintroducing the RDSB to remove the Nitrates and starving away the algae. Good luck!

04/01/2015, 03:02 PM	#13
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	If the sand is dry, you can wash it thoroughly and use some Prime to dechlorinate. If it's wet and there's black in it, toss it. FYI, some corals are able to tolerate ammonia better than fishes, but let's try not to have any ammonia. Prime can also remove ammonia, so test and be sure, and it is safe in a coral reef---I've done it with sps and had no problem. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

04/01/2015, 05:12 PM	#14
BigCountry74 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,761	tank is 2 years old. the original 6 bulbs 2 years old as well? if so you will need to replace those bulbs asap . there lies your problem. __________________ 135g mixed reef (retired) http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2132815 Current 40g reef http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2483250 Current Tank Info: 40g bare bottom reef

04/04/2015, 06:29 AM	#18
danielmitchell Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: QLD, Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 38	Will you remove you sandbed in your display after you install the bucket sandbed? __________________ "Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing"

04/07/2015, 12:13 PM	#20
FarmerTy Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 871	I believe the brown stuff is dinos, not diatoms. In that case, hydrogen peroxide dosing will help. 1ml per 10 gallons dosed daily during the lighted hours.

04/07/2015, 12:26 PM	#21
acrohead500ppm Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: No,never,never Posts: 723	Here is my advice: 1. find proper housing for those tangs!!! When that naso and hippo reach sexual maturity your 65gallon tank is going to turn into thunderdome. Not to mention, both naso and paracanthurus tangs need to be in large reef 150+gallons tanks only in the first place. Sailfin is probably okay, but still zebrasoma tangs in tanks less than 100 gallons is debateable. 2.Get some snails and crabs and keep your glass squeeky clean until the snails have the rocks clean, then make sure to leave the back panel untouched so they don't starve. ^^^^Just my .02.