When is coral dead?

CStrickland · 04/14/2015, 09:09 PM

I got one of those random frag packs so I could meet the minimum order for free shipping on a fish I wanted. So basically free coral, yay!
They sent me a dendro / sun coral, not yay.

I'm gonna do everything I can to keep it happy, and have been reading up on them. But I know my chances are slim in a 6 month old tank. I would think that when it dies it will foul the water, so I was wondering how I will know when to take it out. And just generally speaking when you pull the trigger on a coral.

Like, with brown jelly on Lps you know it's over, but for other kinds do you guys wait till the flesh is floating away before you give up? I've heard of miracles where it looked totes dead but then revived too, so it's confusing

Mythicalelf · 04/14/2015, 09:14 PM

If it is healthy why do you think you will kill it?
Just target feed it.

chueu · 04/14/2015, 10:03 PM

Just target feed it. And i think youll be fine

eddiereefs · 04/14/2015, 10:05 PM

its actually a perfect coral for fowl tank because it doesn require strong lighting. just good water flow and feed it like the above said. and 6 months is fine for corals its the min for anenomes too. post a pic, if its dying flesh will fall off like brown slime, not a big pollutant btw

Jade5051 · 04/14/2015, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CStrickland

I got one of those random frag packs so I could meet the minimum order for free shipping on a fish I wanted. So basically free coral, yay!

They sent me a dendro / sun coral, not yay.

I'm gonna do everything I can to keep it happy, and have been reading up on them. But I know my chances are slim in a 6 month old tank. I would think that when it dies it will foul the water, so I was wondering how I will know when to take it out. And just generally speaking when you pull the trigger on a coral.

Like, with brown jelly on Lps you know it's over, but for other kinds do you guys wait till the flesh is floating away before you give up? I've heard of miracles where it looked totes dead but then revived too, so it's confusing

What kind of fish did you get!?!?

CStrickland · 04/14/2015, 10:18 PM

Yellow watchman

I'll post pics tomorrow when they extend, everyone's pretty angry right now from shipping. I'll want to id them so I can set them up right, but it'll be easier to tell the others once they wake up. It was just the sun coral my heart sank cause I've heard how picky they are and even i can tell that one when I see it, no matter how closed up. I do have a nice shady spot chosen and some good clam juice ready for tomorrow night, we shall see.

Thanks for letting me know it won't nuke the tank. I was thinking anything dying coupled with the stress on the bio filter from the new fish might tip a balance and crash my tank.

ca1ore · 04/14/2015, 10:26 PM

FWIW, sun corals typically just recede slowly as they die - usually from starvation. Although they can sometimes be coaxed out during the day, normally they open at night, which is when you need to feed them - at least, initially.

chueu · 04/15/2015, 06:45 AM

Why all these talk about dying..? Just target feed them and no deaths will occur.

Little light and decent flow are pretty lax requirements

CStrickland · 04/16/2015, 08:10 PM

you guys were right! its not as bad as I thought. I just got spooked cause there are a lot of threads about them dying
it opened up right away, and seems pretty happy.
here's a vid of me feeding it

pyithar · 04/17/2015, 02:50 AM

nice looking coral! your feeding video makes me wanna try one for myself.

BigCountry74 · 04/17/2015, 10:27 AM

that video is pretty cool!

whosurcaddie · 04/17/2015, 10:34 AM

Great Video!

ivanmeza · 04/17/2015, 10:49 AM

Nice looking video! Everytime i target feed my sun coral my cleaner shrimp always tries to snag the food away. I always feed the shrimp first but he just wont stop eating. Anyways Nice looking Sun Coral, that should start growing quite nicely!

04/14/2015, 09:09 PM	#1
CStrickland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England, U.S. Posts: 4,595	When is coral dead? I got one of those random frag packs so I could meet the minimum order for free shipping on a fish I wanted. So basically free coral, yay! They sent me a dendro / sun coral, not yay. I'm gonna do everything I can to keep it happy, and have been reading up on them. But I know my chances are slim in a 6 month old tank. I would think that when it dies it will foul the water, so I was wondering how I will know when to take it out. And just generally speaking when you pull the trigger on a coral. Like, with brown jelly on Lps you know it's over, but for other kinds do you guys wait till the flesh is floating away before you give up? I've heard of miracles where it looked totes dead but then revived too, so it's confusing

04/14/2015, 10:03 PM	#3
chueu Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brunei Posts: 276	Just target feed it. And i think youll be fine __________________ My Slice of the Ocean in my home Current Tank Info: 180G Reef

04/14/2015, 10:26 PM	#7
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	FWIW, sun corals typically just recede slowly as they die - usually from starvation. Although they can sometimes be coaxed out during the day, normally they open at night, which is when you need to feed them - at least, initially. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

04/15/2015, 06:45 AM	#8
chueu Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brunei Posts: 276	Why all these talk about dying..? Just target feed them and no deaths will occur. Little light and decent flow are pretty lax requirements __________________ My Slice of the Ocean in my home Current Tank Info: 180G Reef

04/17/2015, 02:50 AM	#10
pyithar Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: yangon,burma(myanmar) Posts: 1,786	nice looking coral! your feeding video makes me wanna try one for myself. __________________ take it easy, pyithar Current Tank Info: 150G display, 50G sump, mixed reef

04/14/2015, 09:14 PM	#2
Mythicalelf Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 315	If it is healthy why do you think you will kill it? Just target feed it.

04/14/2015, 10:05 PM	#4
eddiereefs Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 575	its actually a perfect coral for fowl tank because it doesn require strong lighting. just good water flow and feed it like the above said. and 6 months is fine for corals its the min for anenomes too. post a pic, if its dying flesh will fall off like brown slime, not a big pollutant btw

04/14/2015, 10:18 PM	#6
CStrickland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England, U.S. Posts: 4,595	Yellow watchman I'll post pics tomorrow when they extend, everyone's pretty angry right now from shipping. I'll want to id them so I can set them up right, but it'll be easier to tell the others once they wake up. It was just the sun coral my heart sank cause I've heard how picky they are and even i can tell that one when I see it, no matter how closed up. I do have a nice shady spot chosen and some good clam juice ready for tomorrow night, we shall see. Thanks for letting me know it won't nuke the tank. I was thinking anything dying coupled with the stress on the bio filter from the new fish might tip a balance and crash my tank.

04/16/2015, 08:10 PM	#9
CStrickland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England, U.S. Posts: 4,595	you guys were right! its not as bad as I thought. I just got spooked cause there are a lot of threads about them dying it opened up right away, and seems pretty happy. here's a vid of me feeding it

04/17/2015, 10:27 AM	#11
BigCountry74 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,761	that video is pretty cool! __________________ 135g mixed reef (retired) http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2132815 Current 40g reef http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2483250 Current Tank Info: 40g bare bottom reef

04/17/2015, 10:34 AM	#12
whosurcaddie Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,354	Great Video!

04/17/2015, 10:49 AM	#13
ivanmeza Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 28	Nice looking video! Everytime i target feed my sun coral my cleaner shrimp always tries to snag the food away. I always feed the shrimp first but he just wont stop eating. Anyways Nice looking Sun Coral, that should start growing quite nicely!