Apex Feeder and Outlet Problem

graceinhim · 05/29/2015, 10:13 AM

I have setup the feeders to feed and linked them to FeedA
When I manually select feed A everything goes according to plan the pumps shut off etc.. when it does it automatically the pumps don't shut off.
Here is what I have for the feeder.
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OSC 000:00/000:30/000:30 Then ON
If Time 00:00 to 08:00 Then OFF
If Time 8:02 to 14:00 Then OFF
If Time 14:02 to 20:00 Then OFF
If Time 20:02 to 00:00 Then OFF
If FeedA 000 Then ON

and here is what i have for the pumps and wave makers

Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

I would appreciate some guidance, thanks.

kurt_n · 05/29/2015, 11:33 PM

Maybe I'm not 100% understanding the issue, but I'll offer a couple comments...

The feed cycles aren't something you can program to be automatic - they're only activated via the feed "buttons", either on the display or through the web/fusion interface. That's the reason I'm a little confused by your comment about them not working correctly when they're running "automatically."

From the programming you posted, I'd expect the feeder outlet to turn on for 30 seconds, every 60 seconds via the OSC command. But your "If Time..." will limit it to the times between 8am and 8:02, as well as 2pm and 2:02 and 8pm and 8:02. And then when you hit the button associated with the FeedA cycle, it will turn on, for however long that feed cycle is set to run.

The pump and wavemaker outlet will be on all the time, except for when the button associated with FeedA is hit - then it will turn off for however long that feed cycle is set to run.

spifftempo · 05/30/2015, 05:08 AM

You need to make a Feeding Routine. Here is a Guide Neptune sent a couple weeks ago to me:

AFS Programming Guide

graceinhim · 05/30/2015, 10:34 AM

I have been poking around and have had some success with this.

REEFPUMP and WaveMakers
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Fallback ON
Set ON
If Outlet RT-FEED = ON Then OFF
If FeedA 000 Then OFF
Defer 005:00 Then ON
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And this for the Feeder on the reef (the only one I have problems with the overflow catching the food)
SO it waits a minute to do it's thing so the water has a chance to calm down.

Thats the first part of the OSC and then out and turn and in.

OSC 001:00/000:30/000:30 Then ON
If Time 00:00 to 08:00 Then OFF
If Time 08:02 to 14:00 Then OFF
If Time 14:02 to 20:00 Then OFF
If Time 20:02 to 00:00 Then OFF
If FeedA 000 Then ON

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I kinda Overfed my tank yesterday (accidently) playing around with this so I will have to wait and see as the programming goes through.

Thanks Guys. I will let you know

graceinhim · 05/30/2015, 10:37 AM

Oh BTW my skimmer and pump are on the same plug - i figured if the pump was down the skimmer might as well also be and vice versa - and it freed up a plug on my EB8

mmn · 05/30/2015, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graceinhim

Oh BTW my skimmer and pump are on the same plug - i figured if the pump was down the skimmer might as well also be and vice versa - and it freed up a plug on my EB8

Some (me) like to delay the skimmer a few minutes after the return pump starts to allow the water level in the sump to stabilize before starting the skimmer.

graceinhim · 05/30/2015, 05:33 PM

Once I have more plugs to spare I totally will separate them

But for now it made sense

05/29/2015, 10:13 AM	#1
graceinhim Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 17	Apex Feeder and Outlet Problem I have setup the feeders to feed and linked them to FeedA When I manually select feed A everything goes according to plan the pumps shut off etc.. when it does it automatically the pumps don't shut off. Here is what I have for the feeder. ------------------------------------------- OSC 000:00/000:30/000:30 Then ON If Time 00:00 to 08:00 Then OFF If Time 8:02 to 14:00 Then OFF If Time 14:02 to 20:00 Then OFF If Time 20:02 to 00:00 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then ON and here is what i have for the pumps and wave makers Fallback ON Set ON If FeedA 000 Then OFF I would appreciate some guidance, thanks. __________________ 269 Total Gallon REEF: 75G Main+ 50G Fuge + 30G Sump FOWLR: Non-reefsafe - 75G + 25G Sump https://plus.google.com/108512395670361481673/posts/ZPP27ZZuu3u

05/30/2015, 10:34 AM	#4
graceinhim Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 17	Thanks Guys, I have been poking around and have had some success with this. REEFPUMP and WaveMakers ------------------------ Fallback ON Set ON If Outlet RT-FEED = ON Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then OFF Defer 005:00 Then ON ------ And this for the Feeder on the reef (the only one I have problems with the overflow catching the food) SO it waits a minute to do it's thing so the water has a chance to calm down. Thats the first part of the OSC and then out and turn and in. OSC 001:00/000:30/000:30 Then ON If Time 00:00 to 08:00 Then OFF If Time 08:02 to 14:00 Then OFF If Time 14:02 to 20:00 Then OFF If Time 20:02 to 00:00 Then OFF If FeedA 000 Then ON ---------- I kinda Overfed my tank yesterday (accidently) playing around with this so I will have to wait and see as the programming goes through. Thanks Guys. I will let you know __________________ 269 Total Gallon REEF: 75G Main+ 50G Fuge + 30G Sump FOWLR: Non-reefsafe - 75G + 25G Sump https://plus.google.com/108512395670361481673/posts/ZPP27ZZuu3u

05/30/2015, 10:37 AM	#5
graceinhim Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 17	Oh BTW my skimmer and pump are on the same plug - i figured if the pump was down the skimmer might as well also be and vice versa - and it freed up a plug on my EB8 __________________ 269 Total Gallon REEF: 75G Main+ 50G Fuge + 30G Sump FOWLR: Non-reefsafe - 75G + 25G Sump https://plus.google.com/108512395670361481673/posts/ZPP27ZZuu3u

05/30/2015, 05:33 PM	#7
graceinhim Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 17	Once I have more plugs to spare I totally will separate them But for now it made sense __________________ 269 Total Gallon REEF: 75G Main+ 50G Fuge + 30G Sump FOWLR: Non-reefsafe - 75G + 25G Sump https://plus.google.com/108512395670361481673/posts/ZPP27ZZuu3u

05/29/2015, 11:33 PM	#2
kurt_n Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA Posts: 2,592	Maybe I'm not 100% understanding the issue, but I'll offer a couple comments... The feed cycles aren't something you can program to be automatic - they're only activated via the feed "buttons", either on the display or through the web/fusion interface. That's the reason I'm a little confused by your comment about them not working correctly when they're running "automatically." From the programming you posted, I'd expect the feeder outlet to turn on for 30 seconds, every 60 seconds via the OSC command. But your "If Time..." will limit it to the times between 8am and 8:02, as well as 2pm and 2:02 and 8pm and 8:02. And then when you hit the button associated with the FeedA cycle, it will turn on, for however long that feed cycle is set to run. The pump and wavemaker outlet will be on all the time, except for when the button associated with FeedA is hit - then it will turn off for however long that feed cycle is set to run.

05/30/2015, 05:08 AM	#3
spifftempo Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 65	You need to make a Feeding Routine. Here is a Guide Neptune sent a couple weeks ago to me: AFS Programming Guide