"Brand New Skimmer coming to Market"

pledosophy · 11/19/2015, 01:09 AM

These guys are doing a free demonstration/give away/ silent auction up by us. I'm not sure based on the design what is different that they are so hip on it, or why it is at all even better.

They say 0 maintenance but wouldn't you still have to clean the neck, empty etc.

Also would this design oxygenate the water since it seems to be using reclaimed air?

Whatta ya think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv6G...ature=youtu.be

adambom · 11/19/2015, 01:43 AM

What makes it automated?

phenom5 · 11/19/2015, 07:06 AM

So what makes it so innovative?

I like how it's completely plug and play, and you don't need to adjust it (unless you do actually need to adjust it), and they've done away with those pesky valves. If you need to adjust it, you just open the lid, take out the float, adjust the height, and replace the float and lid...which, if you don't think about it, is much easier than turning a valve.

mr9iron · 11/19/2015, 07:28 AM

Well, I don't know about innovation, but I wonder how well it actually works.

pledosophy · 11/19/2015, 04:24 PM

I haven't seen any tank that it has been on. Thing could pull 0 skimmate for all I know

hogfanreefer · 11/19/2015, 06:23 PM

I'm with you pledosophy, I can't help but think recirculating the air supply is not a good idea. Oxygenation is one of the more important functions of a skimmer for me.

Bent · 11/19/2015, 06:31 PM

There was a skimmer in that video?

mr9iron · 11/19/2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hogfanreefer

I'm with you pledosophy, I can't help but think recirculating the air supply is not a good idea. Oxygenation is one of the more important functions of a skimmer for me.

IIRC don't Lifereef skimmers "recirculate" the air as well. I think it just keeps the venturi clean.

ca1ore · 11/19/2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hogfanreefer

I'm with you pledosophy, I can't help but think recirculating the air supply is not a good idea. Oxygenation is one of the more important functions of a skimmer for me.

Yes, the Lifereef skimmers recirculate air to prevent venturi clogging. BTW, I'm not in the skimmer-as-oxygenater camp. It's one of those things that 'seems' like it ought to be true but I don't think it is. Rather like in the old FW hobby where the bubbling airstone was persistently thought to oxygenate the water - it does not; it mechanically moves water bringing stale layer to the surface where they absorb oxygen. I wonder if any studies have ever been done. A while back I measured DO on my tank with and without the skimmer running: no difference. Reality is that reef tanks are circulated so aggressively that saturation is likely leaving no incremental role for the skimmer. All my opinion, of course.

BTW, the ONLY skimmer mod that I have found effective in 20 years has been the neck cleaner. None of the other 'improvements' make any difference.

CStrickland · 11/19/2015, 08:21 PM

it seems like the difference is instead of turning a valve, the water level is set by an overflow standpipe inside the chamber. Doesn't seem that much easier really.
I guess by recirculating the air you can have a sealed collection cup, might be less stinky. But the air input inside the cup seems vulnerable to sucking foam, might clog. Is that how the lifereefs do it?
Other than that it looks like a hybrid external / internal where the water is pulled in from underneath the unit, so you have the height of an internal but unaffected by depth of water.

I'm attaching a breakout diagram from the patent http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/9078419

kl3377 · 11/19/2015, 09:16 PM

Interesting. Can't seem to find a website, which in this day and age is strange.

Seth4801 · 11/19/2015, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bent

There was a skimmer in that video?

I know what you mean, I had to watch it again, and again, and … well you get the point.

I'll watch it but I'm skeptical.

11/19/2015, 01:09 AM	#1
pledosophy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton Posts: 5,290	"Brand New Skimmer coming to Market" These guys are doing a free demonstration/give away/ silent auction up by us. I'm not sure based on the design what is different that they are so hip on it, or why it is at all even better. They say 0 maintenance but wouldn't you still have to clean the neck, empty etc. Also would this design oxygenate the water since it seems to be using reclaimed air? Whatta ya think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv6G...ature=youtu.be __________________ 120g mixed reef 90g QT

11/19/2015, 07:06 AM	#3
phenom5 Unregistered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,096	So what makes it so innovative? I like how it's completely plug and play, and you don't need to adjust it (unless you do actually need to adjust it), and they've done away with those pesky valves. If you need to adjust it, you just open the lid, take out the float, adjust the height, and replace the float and lid...which, if you don't think about it, is much easier than turning a valve. __________________ Rob Current Tank Info: DSA 155 Pro \| ATI Sunpower \| ATB 840 v2 \| Apex \| Wav

11/19/2015, 07:28 AM	#4
mr9iron 15& Over Club Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,552 Blog Entries: 1	Well, I don't know about innovation, but I wonder how well it actually works. __________________ Vince ______________________________ Current Tank Info: Frag tank at the moment, planning another

11/19/2015, 04:24 PM	#5
pledosophy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton Posts: 5,290	I haven't seen any tank that it has been on. Thing could pull 0 skimmate for all I know __________________ 120g mixed reef 90g QT

11/19/2015, 06:23 PM	#6
hogfanreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,117	I'm with you pledosophy, I can't help but think recirculating the air supply is not a good idea. Oxygenation is one of the more important functions of a skimmer for me. __________________ DSA 155,Custom Trigger 42" sump/refugium, MP40 X2, MP 10 X 2, AI Hydra 52 X3, Apex controller, Tunze ATO Current Tank Info: DSA 155 gallon, mixed reef, SPS and wrasse dominant

11/19/2015, 01:43 AM	#2
adambom Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 108	What makes it automated?

11/19/2015, 06:31 PM	#7
Bent I got nothin' Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The anals Posts: 6,420	There was a skimmer in that video? __________________ Quitters never lose. [QUOTE=CStrickland]Who gets mad at a starfish?[/QUOTE] Current Tank Info: 75g DT, 30G refugium, 10g chaeto tank, 50g stock tank basement sump

11/19/2015, 09:16 PM	#11
kl3377 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 187	Interesting. Can't seem to find a website, which in this day and age is strange.