Ich in a QT? ***

Kizzy911 · 11/22/2015, 11:54 AM

I had ich and lost alot of fishes, i decided to take all my fishes and QT them for 8 weeks. (I heard, to be on the safe side) i got most of my fish from my LFS. My livestock were, 1 yellow tang, 2 black/white clowns, 5 small chromis, 1 saphire damsel, 1 purple dotty back, and 2 firefishes. All in a 40 gallon breeder. My question are:

Too much fish that it mightbe caused stress leading to ich?
i QT'd new fish with copper and i had one large. (4inch) clarkii l. I decided to get her a pair, so i got a smaller clarkii. I acclimated the new clarkii into the QT and i realized it had ich. It didnt last 24 hours, i would think that my copper wouldve arleast fixed it. After this, the next day my big clarkii clown died in the QT also, after he's been there for about a month. Did ich spread in a QT? What caused his death ? He was a fat clarkii that ate alot and was doing well.

ridetheducati · 11/22/2015, 12:32 PM

Ich Sticky

shifty51008 · 11/22/2015, 02:07 PM

Is the 40br your main tank or hospital tank? If thats your main tank that is way to many fish.

Kizzy911 · 11/23/2015, 02:15 AM

Yes it was my main. What are the downsides to too many fish.?

snorvich · 11/23/2015, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shifty51008

Is the 40br your main tank or hospital tank? If thats your main tank that is way to many fish.

I agree. I also think the OP is going way too fast. Nothing good ever happens quickly in this hobby.

iluvmyfishes · 11/23/2015, 04:25 AM

Take care of the fish you have before you get any more. Get them healthy and back in the main tank. Make sure the main tank does not have ich. When everything is staying healthy in the main tank then you can get a few more fish and quarantine them. Go slow, ich can be tough to get rid of.

Dkuhlmann · 11/23/2015, 06:35 AM

I agree with that is too many fish for a 40b, but you should never have any tang in a 40b. If your LFS knew of your DT tank size that is another strike against them for advice.

You can go to Live Aquaria website and look up any fish you are thinking of getting and it will tell you all about that fish including what size minimum tank for that fish. It's not perfect but in most cases it is spot on. The other thing you can do is come here and ask questions before you buy any fish.

I also left comments on your other thread. Find a new LFS and take it slow. You can keep several fish in a 40b if you have a sump and lots of LR for filtration. I've got a 40b with a 20g sump and I would have no problems with keep 8 or more fish. But the right kinds of fish are the key. If you have too many fish you will end up with ammonia because you don't have the way to clean their waste out of the system. Your biologic bacteria would become overloaded due to not having enough of them if you put too many fish in your tank.

Hope this makes sense. Just woke up and starting on first cup of coffee

laga77 · 11/23/2015, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy911

Yes it was my main. What are the downsides to too many fish.?

They are also under constant stress from being over crowded. They need their space.

Kizzy911 · 11/23/2015, 08:55 AM

Thanks everyone!

11/22/2015, 11:54 AM	#1
Kizzy911 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 202	Ich in a QT? *** I had ich and lost alot of fishes, i decided to take all my fishes and QT them for 8 weeks. (I heard, to be on the safe side) i got most of my fish from my LFS. My livestock were, 1 yellow tang, 2 black/white clowns, 5 small chromis, 1 saphire damsel, 1 purple dotty back, and 2 firefishes. All in a 40 gallon breeder. My question are: Too much fish that it mightbe caused stress leading to ich? i QT'd new fish with copper and i had one large. (4inch) clarkii l. I decided to get her a pair, so i got a smaller clarkii. I acclimated the new clarkii into the QT and i realized it had ich. It didnt last 24 hours, i would think that my copper wouldve arleast fixed it. After this, the next day my big clarkii clown died in the QT also, after he's been there for about a month. Did ich spread in a QT? What caused his death ? He was a fat clarkii that ate alot and was doing well.

11/22/2015, 12:32 PM	#2
ridetheducati 20 and Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 2,968	Ich Sticky __________________ "Send more paramedics" Current Tank Info: 300g DD, SPS dominated, Apex, Tunze 6125s, ATB 1050, 400w MH, and Geo 618 Ca Reactor

11/22/2015, 02:07 PM	#3
shifty51008 12-5 Chiefs record Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 10,134	Is the 40br your main tank or hospital tank? If thats your main tank that is way to many fish. __________________ 75 gal. mixed DT, 100 gal. sump, 50 gal. fuge, Clownfish breeder

11/23/2015, 06:35 AM	#7
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	I agree with that is too many fish for a 40b, but you should never have any tang in a 40b. If your LFS knew of your DT tank size that is another strike against them for advice. You can go to Live Aquaria website and look up any fish you are thinking of getting and it will tell you all about that fish including what size minimum tank for that fish. It's not perfect but in most cases it is spot on. The other thing you can do is come here and ask questions before you buy any fish. I also left comments on your other thread. Find a new LFS and take it slow. You can keep several fish in a 40b if you have a sump and lots of LR for filtration. I've got a 40b with a 20g sump and I would have no problems with keep 8 or more fish. But the right kinds of fish are the key. If you have too many fish you will end up with ammonia because you don't have the way to clean their waste out of the system. Your biologic bacteria would become overloaded due to not having enough of them if you put too many fish in your tank. Hope this makes sense. Just woke up and starting on first cup of coffee __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

11/23/2015, 02:15 AM	#4
Kizzy911 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 202	Yes it was my main. What are the downsides to too many fish.?

11/23/2015, 04:25 AM	#6
iluvmyfishes Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange County CA Posts: 143	Take care of the fish you have before you get any more. Get them healthy and back in the main tank. Make sure the main tank does not have ich. When everything is staying healthy in the main tank then you can get a few more fish and quarantine them. Go slow, ich can be tough to get rid of.

11/23/2015, 08:55 AM	#9
Kizzy911 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 202	Thanks everyone!