Just ordered the Theiling Rollermat

koidealer · 12/28/2015, 09:34 PM

Saw these around and now that BRS is selling them thought I would give it a shot. Haven't posted in awhile since my GFO install. Tank has been doing great....just wanted to make sock cleaning alittle easier. Will post install pics when it arrives

boxfishpooalot · 12/30/2015, 01:30 AM

Ive wanted one too but the price is a lot!

Jay Fortay · 12/30/2015, 02:08 AM

Nice!

Member No. 1 · 12/30/2015, 07:45 AM

Just watched the video. No way in heck do I need this! But I want it!

Keep us posted!

Pny · 12/30/2015, 08:05 AM

Nice! :-)

Ron Reefman · 12/30/2015, 08:06 AM

I like it a lot! Please keep us posted about everything involved in this product. Quality build, packaging, how sturdy is the case, how hard to install and after all that, how well does it work? I'd like to see a filter sock collect the output to see how much 'stuff' gets past the mat... if anything does.

kc350twin · 12/30/2015, 08:26 AM

I would love to see this in action as well. The one question I had was will it mess with the ATO at all when it has to clog and the water rises in the RollerMat box then the return section of the sump will lower. I know it's a small volume of water but on smaller systems it may matter

insane · 12/30/2015, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Member No. 1

Just watched the video. No way in heck do I need this! But I want it!

Exactly.

don_chuwish · 12/30/2015, 10:33 AM

Agreed this is a clever solution and love the idea - if only I could justify the cost! Good luck with it!

rhinonm · 12/30/2015, 10:52 AM

brs states the replacement fleece is 20g/m² filtration pore size... wonder how that translates to microns.

FullBoreReefer · 12/30/2015, 10:55 AM

I can only find replacement matting on BRS, where did you order?

FullBoreReefer · 12/30/2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FullBoreReefer

I can only find replacement matting on BRS, where did you order?

Found it...$399 lol

psychocoralchopper · 12/30/2015, 11:28 AM

Would like to try one too. But it looks like the flow rate is 200-600gph: which may limit its application to smaller aquariums... but then in smaller aquariums, the water level fluctuation would have a bigger impact on the ATO and the salinity. Lastly, what happens at the end of the roll? I see the emergency overflow, but would the motor keep trying to turn and burn out or damage the gears?

shermanator · 12/30/2015, 01:33 PM

I bought one on Black Friday but have not installed it yet. It's very well made, but it's also huge. I'm still thinking about how I want to install it. Not sure I want anything on my bean siphon, so I might do a separate pump (and the limit is 600 gph). Also need to figure out how I will mount it. It's big, good thing I have a basement sump. It's probably bigger than a 10g aquarium to give you some idea of its size...

zachts · 12/30/2015, 11:27 PM

Neat, have to keep my eye on this little toy......

koidealer · 12/31/2015, 12:01 PM

Just an update. It shipped from BRS and I purchased the adapter kit. I questioned whether or not the adapters from metric to standard included a stub piece of metric pipe to connect to the bulkhead. After a phone call to BRS they informed me that the adapter kit comes with two bulkheads that replace the waterin line and the overflow line metric bulkheads. The center metric bulkhead from the wheel uses a glue on adapter that fits and glues right on the bulkhead. So no need to order or have metric pipe for stubs FYI. Can't wait for the unit to arrive. I'm interested in the water level comment. I know that even socks can clog and cause over flow ( extra water held in socks) within sumps which changes water level in sump ever so slightly.... I guess depending on the water level differential set inside the rollermat and also the volume of water it takes up in its chamber......It's something to keep in mind when setting up

Blue spot · 12/31/2015, 12:20 PM

Hey koi . I've been running one of these for a year. Love love love it. Couple of thing to look out for in my experience . Placement height . If it's in your sump get it as heigh out of the water as possible. The power outlet is also on the underside and very close to the water if not. It can also be used for larger tanks , mine is 1600liters and copes well no overflowing etc, if you put to much water through it will simply fill to the float switch and turn your Matt on permanently. I moved my float switch a little higher , nothing said you can, but nothing said you couldn't either. Ether way waters always clear, and an added bonus if something takes a trip to the sump it sits in the rollomat where I can take it out and put it back into the tank. I do have a thread where you can see it setup but I have no idea how to send a link , maybe you could find it ? Great purchase

koidealer · 12/31/2015, 12:25 PM

Thank you blue spot! I'll do a search for it!

iced98lx · 12/31/2015, 01:24 PM

I'm watching with interest!

Ron Reefman · 01/01/2016, 08:25 AM

Blue spot, thanks for the info from a user's perspective. That's always helpful, especially with new or uncommon products.

Have you ever put a filter sock at the outflow to see if it lets anything through that a sock might catch. I'm curious because I haven't found where the manufacturer states the micron size of the filter cloth.

Blue spot · 01/05/2016, 06:39 PM

Hi Ron , got to say I haven't , but 2 different pore sizes are available in the uk. I'll find out the sizes, one thing I have found though is I baught some cheaper alternative rolls ! Bad idea, if the roll is not exactly the right size then water can pass without fully filtering . It really does take everything out , another thing is it's perfect for Copepods. Hundreds sit in the water reservoirs , so much so that now and again I take the Matt out and release them into the sump. Downsides are , make sure you get the latest level motor and power connection . The new one connects the power cable directly into the plug, old one kept slipping. Second bad thing is the coraline build up, it would be great if one was available with blackout screening or something. Even so it's still a great addition to your setup and you literally only have to change the roll about every three months and I consider my tank fairly heavily stocked.

Bent · 01/05/2016, 07:07 PM

400 bucks?

Lol.

Cool gadget though.

koidealer · 01/05/2016, 10:26 PM

Look what came to my doorstep! It's here!

mussel and hate · 01/06/2016, 01:02 AM

This is a really interesting filter. I wish there were a miniature hob version with integrated overflow. I'd buy one.

Ron Reefman · 01/06/2016, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue spot

Hi Ron , got to say I haven't , but 2 different pore sizes are available in the uk. I'll find out the sizes, one thing I have found though is I bought some cheaper alternative rolls ! Bad idea, if the roll is not exactly the right size then water can pass without fully filtering . It really does take everything out , another thing is it's perfect for Copepods. Hundreds sit in the water reservoirs , so much so that now and again I take the Matt out and release them into the sump. Downsides are , make sure you get the latest level motor and power connection . The new one connects the power cable directly into the plug, old one kept slipping. Second bad thing is the coraline build up, it would be great if one was available with blackout screening or something. Even so it's still a great addition to your setup and you literally only have to change the roll about every three months and I consider my tank fairly heavily stocked.

Great feed back. Thanks. I'm not sure I understand, "...make sure you get the latest level motor and power connection . The new one connects the power cable directly into the plug, old one kept slipping." What is slipping? Is it a drive belt? Just what kind of motor and drive system does it have? Is it AC or DC? Is it a drive belt, gears or direct drive?

The coraline comment seems very pertinent as well. I wonder if it could be painted (not a big fan of painted acrylic in saltwater) or covered in some way? Even just a light blocking shower curtain over it... or my wife could sew up a sunbrella material fitted cover! She has done them for our 11' Zodiac and BBQ grille.

Thanks again.

12/28/2015, 09:34 PM	#1
koidealer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: CA Posts: 82	Just ordered the Theiling Rollermat Saw these around and now that BRS is selling them thought I would give it a shot. Haven't posted in awhile since my GFO install. Tank has been doing great....just wanted to make sock cleaning alittle easier. Will post install pics when it arrives

12/30/2015, 01:30 AM	#2
boxfishpooalot Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada, Grande Praire, Ab Posts: 5,824	Ive wanted one too but the price is a lot! __________________ Its a good idea to have a refrence sample for alk test kits. 1.1350 grams of baking soda in 1gallon of distilled water=10dkh. Check your alkalinity test kit! Algae is Mother Natures phosphate remover Current Tank Info: 220 galon mixed reef.

12/30/2015, 02:08 AM	#3
Jay Fortay Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bozeman, Montana Posts: 929	Nice! __________________ Witty line goes here... Current Tank Info: 225 gallon 88"x30"x20" shallow rimless. 185 gallon fish room. Reef Octopus SSS-5000, Apex Neptune, 3 Kessil A360W, Melevs Reef RODI, Reeflo Hammerhead Gold return http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2365282

12/30/2015, 07:45 AM	#4
Member No. 1 Ver. 2.1 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rehoboth, MA Posts: 1,803	Just watched the video. No way in heck do I need this! But I want it! Keep us posted! __________________ Pete "I never make mistakes... I thought I did once, but I was wrong" Current Tank Info: In the process - http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2661614

12/30/2015, 08:06 AM	#6
Ron Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 10,431	I like it a lot! Please keep us posted about everything involved in this product. Quality build, packaging, how sturdy is the case, how hard to install and after all that, how well does it work? I'd like to see a filter sock collect the output to see how much 'stuff' gets past the mat... if anything does. __________________ The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Visit my build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2593017

12/30/2015, 08:05 AM	#5
Pny Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 169	Nice! :-)

12/30/2015, 08:26 AM	#7
kc350twin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Severn, MD Posts: 1,579	I would love to see this in action as well. The one question I had was will it mess with the ATO at all when it has to clog and the water rises in the RollerMat box then the return section of the sump will lower. I know it's a small volume of water but on smaller systems it may matter __________________ 112g Cube 36x36x20= Custom 12x39wPower Module (Par Monster)= Neptune Apex=ATB 840v2=BM Doser= 2 MP-40's

12/30/2015, 10:33 AM	#9
don_chuwish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 345	Agreed this is a clever solution and love the idea - if only I could justify the cost! Good luck with it!

12/30/2015, 10:52 AM	#10
rhinonm Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rio Rancho NM USA Posts: 302	brs states the replacement fleece is 20g/m² filtration pore size... wonder how that translates to microns. __________________ 180g 60x35x20 Rimless, 48" Sunpower, 5000 SRO Skimmer, 40" Advanced Acrylics Sump Current Tank Info: 200g SPS

12/30/2015, 10:55 AM	#11
FullBoreReefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 1,862	I can only find replacement matting on BRS, where did you order? __________________ 60x36x24 mixed reef. 40b sump. Regal 250int Varios. 4xHydra26HDs+t5s. 4xMp40wes. Apex2016.

12/30/2015, 11:28 AM	#13
psychocoralchopper Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: DFW, Tx Posts: 253	Would like to try one too. But it looks like the flow rate is 200-600gph: which may limit its application to smaller aquariums... but then in smaller aquariums, the water level fluctuation would have a bigger impact on the ATO and the salinity. Lastly, what happens at the end of the roll? I see the emergency overflow, but would the motor keep trying to turn and burn out or damage the gears?

12/30/2015, 01:33 PM	#14
shermanator Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 854	I bought one on Black Friday but have not installed it yet. It's very well made, but it's also huge. I'm still thinking about how I want to install it. Not sure I want anything on my bean siphon, so I might do a separate pump (and the limit is 600 gph). Also need to figure out how I will mount it. It's big, good thing I have a basement sump. It's probably bigger than a 10g aquarium to give you some idea of its size...

12/30/2015, 11:27 PM	#15
zachts Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 3,259	Neat, have to keep my eye on this little toy......

12/31/2015, 12:01 PM	#16
koidealer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: CA Posts: 82	Just an update. It shipped from BRS and I purchased the adapter kit. I questioned whether or not the adapters from metric to standard included a stub piece of metric pipe to connect to the bulkhead. After a phone call to BRS they informed me that the adapter kit comes with two bulkheads that replace the waterin line and the overflow line metric bulkheads. The center metric bulkhead from the wheel uses a glue on adapter that fits and glues right on the bulkhead. So no need to order or have metric pipe for stubs FYI. Can't wait for the unit to arrive. I'm interested in the water level comment. I know that even socks can clog and cause over flow ( extra water held in socks) within sumps which changes water level in sump ever so slightly.... I guess depending on the water level differential set inside the rollermat and also the volume of water it takes up in its chamber......It's something to keep in mind when setting up

12/31/2015, 12:20 PM	#17
Blue spot Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 590	Hey koi . I've been running one of these for a year. Love love love it. Couple of thing to look out for in my experience . Placement height . If it's in your sump get it as heigh out of the water as possible. The power outlet is also on the underside and very close to the water if not. It can also be used for larger tanks , mine is 1600liters and copes well no overflowing etc, if you put to much water through it will simply fill to the float switch and turn your Matt on permanently. I moved my float switch a little higher , nothing said you can, but nothing said you couldn't either. Ether way waters always clear, and an added bonus if something takes a trip to the sump it sits in the rollomat where I can take it out and put it back into the tank. I do have a thread where you can see it setup but I have no idea how to send a link , maybe you could find it ? Great purchase

12/31/2015, 12:25 PM	#18
koidealer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: CA Posts: 82	Thank you blue spot! I'll do a search for it!

12/31/2015, 01:24 PM	#19
iced98lx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,258	I'm watching with interest!

01/01/2016, 08:25 AM	#20
Ron Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 10,431	Blue spot, thanks for the info from a user's perspective. That's always helpful, especially with new or uncommon products. Have you ever put a filter sock at the outflow to see if it lets anything through that a sock might catch. I'm curious because I haven't found where the manufacturer states the micron size of the filter cloth. __________________ The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Visit my build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2593017

01/05/2016, 06:39 PM	#21
Blue spot Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 590	Hi Ron , got to say I haven't , but 2 different pore sizes are available in the uk. I'll find out the sizes, one thing I have found though is I baught some cheaper alternative rolls ! Bad idea, if the roll is not exactly the right size then water can pass without fully filtering . It really does take everything out , another thing is it's perfect for Copepods. Hundreds sit in the water reservoirs , so much so that now and again I take the Matt out and release them into the sump. Downsides are , make sure you get the latest level motor and power connection . The new one connects the power cable directly into the plug, old one kept slipping. Second bad thing is the coraline build up, it would be great if one was available with blackout screening or something. Even so it's still a great addition to your setup and you literally only have to change the roll about every three months and I consider my tank fairly heavily stocked.

01/05/2016, 07:07 PM	#22
Bent I got nothin' Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The anals Posts: 6,420	400 bucks? Lol. Cool gadget though. __________________ Quitters never lose. [QUOTE=CStrickland]Who gets mad at a starfish?[/QUOTE] Current Tank Info: 75g DT, 30G refugium, 10g chaeto tank, 50g stock tank basement sump

01/06/2016, 01:02 AM	#24
mussel and hate Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: location location Posts: 701	This is a really interesting filter. I wish there were a miniature hob version with integrated overflow. I'd buy one.