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Unread 06/21/2016, 04:01 PM   #1
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moving my tank 2 inches

I have a 75 gallon with lots of rock(80ish lbs.) and 1-2 inch sand bed. It's been up since April and currently has two clowns. I realized soon after I filled it that it was too close to the wall. I use HOB protein skimmer. I just got a Fluval 70 and it wont fit. I figure it's better to take water out and move it now and fix my mistake before I fully stock it down the road. I don't want to hurt the clowns. If I remove enough water to slide it out a bit and then gently add water back right away, how much of a cycle am a likely to have?


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Unread 06/21/2016, 04:11 PM   #2
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Most of your good bacteria will be in the rock work and sand. If you are just draining some water to slide the tank out a bit, and then adding the water back, you don't really have anything to worry about.


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Unread 06/21/2016, 05:03 PM   #3
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to move a 75 gallon tank you cant just drain a little water. your going to have to drain it almost all the way. a gallon of salt water weights about 8.6 lbs. so even half way filled you have over 260 lbs, plus rock, plus sand , plus tank

also get yourself a sump and in sump protein skimmer. though out the hob protein skimmer and fluval 70
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Unread 06/22/2016, 12:01 AM   #4
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If you are really going to move the tank 2 inches start filling buckets with water, throw the fish in the buckets, and keep draining water. You will likely have to remove all but a few inches of water to successfully move it. Are you sure you cant make it a hang on the side filter until you have a more compelling reason to drain the tank?


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Unread 06/22/2016, 05:39 AM   #5
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You will need to almost completely drain the tank to move it, but if you are ever going to move it, do it now. The longer you wait, the more of an effect it will have on your tank.
Get a couple of Brutes, drain it down, move it and refill it.
But the advice to get a sump deserves consideration. Down the line, it will make your life much easier.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 07:57 AM   #6
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If I do consider a sump, which I have used in past tanks and have had floods, is there one I can just buy and EASILY set up. I'm going to play the girl card and say I have absolutely NO plumbing/DIY skills. My husband does not want or have time to help. Recommendations? (Please no comments about the girl card comment-I know women can do it all-plumbing is just not my thing)


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Unread 06/22/2016, 08:10 AM   #7
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I've moved an established 120G + 40G sump + 20G fuge with just a 2ft crowbar.. a little at a time without any issues..


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Unread 06/22/2016, 08:15 AM   #8
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to move a 75 gallon tank you cant just drain a little water. your going to have to drain it almost all the way. a gallon of salt water weights about 8.6 lbs. so even half way filled you have over 260 lbs, plus rock, plus sand , plus tank

also get yourself a sump and in sump protein skimmer. though out the hob protein skimmer and fluval 70
water weighs
who cant slide 300lbs two inches?

is this on carpet or hardwood? carpet is a whole other story.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 08:17 AM   #9
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You don't need to drill the tank. Just get an Epson overflow box Also a sump should never cause a flood. You need to only fill the tank to where if you shut off the pump the sump doesn't overflow


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Unread 06/22/2016, 08:23 AM   #10
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You don't need to drill the tank. Just get an Epson overflow box Also a sump should never cause a flood. You need to only fill the tank to where if you shut off the pump the sump doesn't overflow
I know Epson makes printers.. Didn't know they are making overflows now.
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Unread 06/22/2016, 08:24 AM   #11
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who cant slide 300lbs two inches?

is this on carpet or hardwood? carpet is a whole other story.
What he said. Don't make it harder than you have to. That being said, I would drain about 1/2 the water out just to prevent sloshing, but otherwise just slide it! If it's on carpet, tilt it back just enough to slide a piece of cardboard under the front and then slide it on that. On hardwood/laminate/tile it will move fairly easily. Just take your time.

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You don't need to drill the tank. Just get an Epson overflow box Also a sump should never cause a flood. You need to only fill the tank to where if you shut off the pump the sump doesn't overflow


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I agree that a properly set up sump won't, by itself, cause a flood. I would, however, strongly recommend drilling if you go that route. HOB overflows have been known to fail especially after a power outage. Gravity has never failed me yet.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 08:26 AM   #12
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It's on tile so it shouldn't be that bad.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 08:31 AM   #13
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You don't need to drill the tank. Just get an Epson overflow box Also a sump should never cause a flood. You need to only fill the tank to where if you shut off the pump the sump doesn't overflow with


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I know Epson makes printers.. Didn't know they are making overflows now.

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Lol. Yes they just got into sumps

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And now you are double posting.. Post #9 and #13..
Put the phone down man... put it down


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Unread 06/22/2016, 09:11 AM   #18
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I used a piece of wood (as a lever) to move my 29g with 40lbs sand and probably 30lbs of rock two inches more away from wall. I didnt drain anything. and this was on tile and not into grout lines. I know it's not close to your weight. But it slid easily for me. If you do try...go slow, make sure you won't damage legs of stand or wall/baseboard. Maybe have an extra persons hands...of course draining a bit will make it easier as posted above.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 12:13 PM   #19
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Tank is moved! Fish seem happy-they are eating. Water is a little cloudy but that's to be expected. Not as hard as I imagined. Still might do a sump down the road, but for now I will still take suggestions/advice for sumps with overflow since tank is not predrilled.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 12:25 PM   #20
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Awesome news. Didn't think you'd have much trouble.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 12:29 PM   #21
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did you slide it? side to side pressure kind of concerned me


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Unread 06/22/2016, 12:45 PM   #22
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I was doing it alone so I moved each end of the stand just a little by sliding it. I did drain it into two 32 gallon garbage containers. I left about 3 inches of water with fish in. They seemed not at all stressed-just kept swimming like normal checking out what I was doing. I think that was less stressful than chasing them with a net and putting them in a new environment. Used a pump and gently put water back as quickly as I could without causing a sand storm-I poured the water over rock so it just trickled down gently. All seems fine. I'll test it to make sure I didn't create a mini cycle but figure its probably like low tide???


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Unread 06/22/2016, 12:50 PM   #23
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I can slide my 55 with 20 gallon sump on hardwood floor no problem without draining any water. Just make sure to slide from stand at lower part so you dont tip the tank. other than that, pretty easy.


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Unread 06/22/2016, 01:10 PM   #24
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Yeah I had my husband slide an almost full 55. He braced his legs against the wall and used them to do the pushing. It did splash a little water because it was like he pushed harder and harder and then it came unstuck all of a sudden causing a wave that went across the tank and then back at him right in the face

Probably if I'd had to do it myself I would have overthought it and made it really complicated but he's more git er done with brute force about stuff like that.


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I just tested it after everything has settled down. Everything but nitrate is 0. Nitrate is 20. I'm going to test again tomorrow and see if the nitrate has come down with the rock taking care of it-if not I'll do a water change tomorrow.


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