Help!! My banggai is lying on its side :(

Celeste M · 07/24/2016, 08:42 PM

I got my first banggai cardinal yesterday, and I introduced him to my 1.5 yr old (pretty established) 30 g biocube. The only other fish in there is a a goby, big clean up crew, and lots of coral. Tonight I noticed he was lying on his side at the bottom of the tank and breathing hard

(( I don't know what's wrong with him and I got scared of letting a fish die in my tank and messing up my levels so I quarantined him and now he's still on his side at the bottom breathing hard... I don't know what to do, if I can even do anything...

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Nitrite: 0
Ammonia: 0
Salinity: 1.024
30 gal biocube stock lighting
Three tier media rack with filter floss, purogen, matrix carbon for filter system

farfromsea · 07/24/2016, 10:14 PM

Did you buy him online/receive him in the mail? Have you been cleaning your house today and putting your hands in the tank?

jraker · 07/24/2016, 10:33 PM

Sounds like it could be ammonia poisoning. Did you get it online, and how did you acclimate it?

Grkgod36 · 07/24/2016, 11:15 PM

As said above . Also you always want to qt before you put the fish in your tank .

Sk8r · 07/24/2016, 11:20 PM

It could be a number of things. Some shippers will give you credit for a fish that did not survive a certain number of days. I would strongly urge quarantine. It could be the shipping; could be an acclimation going on more than half an hour; could be ich in the gills. Too many potential causes to guess.

SeaCucumberFan · 07/25/2016, 12:44 AM

Did you...
QT?
Aclimate?
Buy it online?

gone fishin · 07/25/2016, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8r

It could be a number of things. Some shippers will give you credit for a fish that did not survive a certain number of days. I would strongly urge quarantine. It could be the shipping; could be an acclimation going on more than half an hour; could be ich in the gills. Too many potential causes to guess.

What Sk8r said. I would also also add flukes

Celeste M · 07/25/2016, 04:40 PM

I got him at a local fish shop, but it was also a 45 min drive...I didn't qt when putting him in... The owner of the fish shop I went to said it should be ok to do a drip and put him in after about an hour...I tried a freshwater dip and that made him swim again but when I took him out he stopped swimming and bumped into rocks

He didn't make it through the night

heathlindner25 · 07/25/2016, 04:59 PM

You tried a freshwater dip? Can you elaborate

Celeste M · 07/25/2016, 05:57 PM

Yes I cross posted this and another person suggested I try a freshwater dip to rule out any flukes. As instructed I put him in a small qt tank with rodi water and an air stone for about five minutes, he swam around, and then I put him in his home tank and he swam a little bit more, then started bumping into rocks, then went back to lying on his side...

heathlindner25 · 07/25/2016, 06:01 PM

Probably just too many things at one time

Celeste M · 07/25/2016, 06:03 PM

I read something about sudden fright syndrome, and there was a video of someone's fish acting the same way my fish did...There's so many possibilities of what went wrong and I can't pin point it which makes me wary of getting another one..

gone fishin · 07/25/2016, 06:36 PM

Do not be wary of trying another cardinal. I would suggest If you do then make use of the QT first. It will be much easier to treat any problems and observe the fish in a basically bare QT. Also, you will not put your other fish in the DT at risk. Good luck just my 2 cents.

07/24/2016, 08:42 PM	#1
Celeste M Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 13	Help!! My banggai is lying on its side :( I got my first banggai cardinal yesterday, and I introduced him to my 1.5 yr old (pretty established) 30 g biocube. The only other fish in there is a a goby, big clean up crew, and lots of coral. Tonight I noticed he was lying on his side at the bottom of the tank and breathing hard (( I don't know what's wrong with him and I got scared of letting a fish die in my tank and messing up my levels so I quarantined him and now he's still on his side at the bottom breathing hard... I don't know what to do, if I can even do anything... ------- Nitrite: 0 Ammonia: 0 Salinity: 1.024 30 gal biocube stock lighting Three tier media rack with filter floss, purogen, matrix carbon for filter system

07/24/2016, 10:33 PM	#3
jraker Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,421	Sounds like it could be ammonia poisoning. Did you get it online, and how did you acclimate it? __________________ "I glue animals to rocks" Current Tank Info: 36 gallon reef, 65 gallon Caribbean Biotope macroalgae and seagrass tank

07/24/2016, 11:20 PM	#5
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	It could be a number of things. Some shippers will give you credit for a fish that did not survive a certain number of days. I would strongly urge quarantine. It could be the shipping; could be an acclimation going on more than half an hour; could be ich in the gills. Too many potential causes to guess. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

07/25/2016, 06:36 PM	#13
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	Do not be wary of trying another cardinal. I would suggest If you do then make use of the QT first. It will be much easier to treat any problems and observe the fish in a basically bare QT. Also, you will not put your other fish in the DT at risk. Good luck just my 2 cents. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

07/24/2016, 10:14 PM	#2
farfromsea Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 549	Did you buy him online/receive him in the mail? Have you been cleaning your house today and putting your hands in the tank?

07/24/2016, 11:15 PM	#4
Grkgod36 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 375	As said above . Also you always want to qt before you put the fish in your tank .

07/25/2016, 12:44 AM	#6
SeaCucumberFan Moved On Join Date: May 2016 Location: Sleman, Yogyakarta, Central Java, Indonesia Posts: 858	Did you... QT? Aclimate? Buy it online?

07/25/2016, 04:40 PM	#8
Celeste M Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 13	I got him at a local fish shop, but it was also a 45 min drive...I didn't qt when putting him in... The owner of the fish shop I went to said it should be ok to do a drip and put him in after about an hour...I tried a freshwater dip and that made him swim again but when I took him out he stopped swimming and bumped into rocks He didn't make it through the night

07/25/2016, 04:59 PM	#9
heathlindner25 Moved On Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 3,644	You tried a freshwater dip? Can you elaborate

07/25/2016, 05:57 PM	#10
Celeste M Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 13	Yes I cross posted this and another person suggested I try a freshwater dip to rule out any flukes. As instructed I put him in a small qt tank with rodi water and an air stone for about five minutes, he swam around, and then I put him in his home tank and he swam a little bit more, then started bumping into rocks, then went back to lying on his side...

07/25/2016, 06:01 PM	#11
heathlindner25 Moved On Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 3,644	Probably just too many things at one time

07/25/2016, 06:03 PM	#12
Celeste M Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 13	I read something about sudden fright syndrome, and there was a video of someone's fish acting the same way my fish did...There's so many possibilities of what went wrong and I can't pin point it which makes me wary of getting another one..