Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > New to the Hobby
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 08/10/2016, 06:49 PM   #1
yourcatch22
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 3
Question Looking for Battery Backup For Tank

Hey folks!

I am trying to select a battery backup/surge protector for my fish tank. I live here in Florida where the afternoon storms can cause frequent power outages and I want to protect my tank.

I intend to use it just to run a single powerhead or my hang on back filter (if possible) for a few hours to get oxygen flowing. My tank is pretty small, only 25 gallons, so I'm not looking for anything crazy here. I recently purchased 1000 VA, 600 Watts CyberPower battery backup for my system. Unfortunately, whenever I pull the plug to test it, the battery only supplies enough power to barely spin the powerhead at half speed and not enough to break the water's surface. I have nothing else running so it's a little surprising that it's so weak.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good battery backup that won't break the bank or, at the very least, explain why the one I purchased isn't doing the job?


yourcatch22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2016, 07:29 PM   #2
davehead86
Registered Member
 
davehead86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Monticello, IL
Posts: 819
What kind of power head are you running? What else is plugged into the backup?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


__________________
My build thread
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=24225945#post24225945

Current Tank: 65 Gallon Mixed Reef| 40B Sump| 2 Radion Gen 3's| 2 MP10wes| Vectra M1 | Reefkeeper Lite
davehead86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2016, 08:36 PM   #3
NeilFox
Registered Member
 
NeilFox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: DuPont, WA
Posts: 947
Perhaps an inverter system.


__________________
Even a Blind Squirrel finds a Nut now and then.

Current Tank Info: 6.25 gal Nano, 40 gal SPS
NeilFox is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2016, 09:06 PM   #4
Timfish
Registered Member
 
Timfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,985
Some UPS don't make a true sine wave which is hard on pumps. They usually only run a couple hours irregardless of the load. Penn Plax makes a battery operated air pump that only turns on when power is lost. A friend on mine looked at several diffeent brands and the Penn Plax was the only one that ran on "D" cell battteries that consistantly turned on and also lasted the longest when power was turned off.


__________________
"Our crystal clear aquaria come nowhere close to the nutrient loads that swirl around natural reefs" Charles Delbeek
Timfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/10/2016, 10:17 PM   #5
Reeefer
Zookeeper
 
Reeefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 1,120
On my 29 gallon I have an MP10. Planning on buying the Ecotech battery back up for it. That's what I'm doing on my 81 gallon which I have backing up 2 MP40s. Pricey yes, but it's insurance for your tank.


__________________
RedSeaE260wSump-Vectra M1-2 Hydra26HD-2 MP40wQD-Vtech Battery Backup-Bubble Magus Curve 5 Skimmer-Bubble Magus Mini 80 Reactor-Tunze 3155 ATO
Bio Cube 29-Prime HD-MP10wQD-Tunze 9001 Skimmer-InTank Me

Current Tank Info: Not Enough
Reeefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2016, 05:25 AM   #6
Mark9
Registered Member
 
Mark9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 2,497
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reeefer View Post
On my 29 gallon I have an MP10. Planning on buying the Ecotech battery back up for it. That's what I'm doing on my 81 gallon which I have backing up 2 MP40s. Pricey yes, but it's insurance for your tank.
+1 on the Ecotech battery backup.


Mark9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2016, 06:11 AM   #7
eastlake
Registered Member
 
eastlake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: willoughby
Posts: 648
Does the back up you presently have run an aerator efficiently? If so you could just have that on the back up outlet.


eastlake is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2016, 11:40 AM   #8
Sk8r
RC Mod
 
Sk8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 34,628
Blog Entries: 55
Suggestion: instead of trying to provide full power for a transient power outage, get a Penn-Plax bubbler pump: they're small, cheap, and they can be rigged to come on to power an airhose and bubbler somewhere behind the rockwork. They'll last as long as you have batteries to feed them. For big weather problems, yes, a generator; and you're where there can be extended outage; but for the minor ones the little bubbler can keep fish breathing well enough. They're a good option for everybody to have, at least in the house.

Most tanks can go 8 hours with no power, no problem. Beyond that, things can get iffy, and among precautions for a long workday stint or a weekend at the beach, these might help, running on regular power most of the time, but switching to battery in a power-out. In general, bubblers aren't a useful item in a reef, and not something you want going on long-term; but if you live where power is a dice throw, and you have to be away for 3 days, this is a good bet. Just keep bubbles away from fish and corals as a rule.


__________________
Sk8r

Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low.

Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.
Sk8r is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2016, 12:06 PM   #9
GimpyFin
Registered Member
 
GimpyFin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,032
As mentioned, if you don't get a UPS that does true sine wave output, you'll have issues. The modified sine wave on basic UPS devices is hard on pumps and motors and causes them to behave erratically on battery power. Cyberpower does make a Pure sinewave series that works, but depending how much equipment you want to run off of it, the backup power doesn't last very long. (I had a Pure Sinewave 1350V/800W on my old tank and it would die after about 30-45 minutes with the return, powerheads, and heater (no lights.))

An alternative is an inverter generator for longer outages (Regular generators have similar shortcomings to basic UPS devices) or the battery powered pumps Timfish and Sk8r suggested are also good ideas.


__________________
Brian

Current Tank Info: 110 gallon
GimpyFin is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2016, 12:08 PM   #10
Tweaked
FUP&A Member
 
Tweaked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Madison, CT
Posts: 7,722
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8r View Post
Suggestion: instead of trying to provide full power for a transient power outage, get a Penn-Plax bubbler pump: they're small, cheap, and they can be rigged to come on to power an airhose and bubbler somewhere behind the rockwork. They'll last as long as you have batteries to feed them. For big weather problems, yes, a generator; and you're where there can be extended outage; but for the minor ones the little bubbler can keep fish breathing well enough. They're a good option for everybody to have, at least in the house.

Most tanks can go 8 hours with no power, no problem. Beyond that, things can get iffy, and among precautions for a long workday stint or a weekend at the beach, these might help, running on regular power most of the time, but switching to battery in a power-out. In general, bubblers aren't a useful item in a reef, and not something you want going on long-term; but if you live where power is a dice throw, and you have to be away for 3 days, this is a good bet. Just keep bubbles away from fish and corals as a rule.
This!!! I have 5 of the bubblers on my 5 displays and they come on automatically when power is lost - typically in overnight storms. For longer periods I roll out the generator.


__________________
DSA 105 Pro, Cebu Sun-Radiums-M80 Ballasts, 4 T5's, XHO LEDs. Through Wall 55g Sump, 10g Frag and 29g Display attached, Vertex V6, 3 mp40's, Gyre, 2 mp10's, GFO, Carbon, Pellets - 10g Bar Tank
Tweaked is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2016, 12:18 PM   #11
malx
Registered Member
 
malx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 1,324
I use Ecotech Marine's Battery Backup. A bit pricey but I have two MP40s and a Vectra Return pump. Right now, it's hooked up to one of my MP40s but I'm considering hooking it up to the return pump instead since my MP40s are too low to stir up the surface.


malx is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08/11/2016, 12:55 PM   #12
Subsea
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 1,882
I set up a PennPlex air bubble on a 29G mixed reef in a dentist office. During an extended electrical outage, the pump ran 10 days on two D cell batteries. All things were good.

Ten years ago that pump was <$10. When power was lost at the receptacle, the air pumps switch turns on.


__________________
Laissez les bons temps rouler,
Patrick Castille

Current Tank Info: 10,000G. Greenhouse Macro Growout
Subsea is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
backup power, battery, power


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.