ich?

bowhunterj · 09/05/2016, 08:32 AM

Does ich come on suddenly over night? I have a kole tang that was fine yesterday eating and no sign of ich . I check all fish everyday. and today he's head down between two rocks still breathing but looks like white spots all over should I treat the whole tank or remove to another Q tank? please help! all other fish look good!

niladride · 09/05/2016, 08:41 AM

What I have read is that you have to treat all fishes in separate tank and leave display fish-less for 72 days to eliminate ich parasite completely.

Sk8r · 09/05/2016, 08:47 AM

Remove all fish (inverts and corals can stay) to a qt tank and treat. I'd say TTM. Read the sticky. No fish should enter the dt for 72 days.

bowhunterj · 09/05/2016, 09:39 AM

ya knew ' I built a cabinet to hide my top off water yesterday. would I have just stressed him that much? I didn't notice if I did . I removed him to qt tank and it looks like the spots are gone ? would he just be under enough stress to look spoty,?

bowhunterj · 09/05/2016, 10:28 AM

has anyone ever used Kordon herbal ich treatment? read that it won't hurt anything but may close coral for a few days. my tank is rather new with not maney coral anyway.

Sk8r · 09/05/2016, 10:44 AM

Sorry. That ich treatment doesn't work, and the fish if that bad that fast is in trouble. Get him into qt with treatment asap. Ich is not about stress. It's an animal like fleas. You need to de-flea the fish, and set up a tank where you can treat him. A bare 10 gallon tank with anti-jump protection, a filter, and heater are all you need. Even a 5 gallon bucket. Alternate bucket and tank with filter, according to the instructions in the TTM sticky and you may save your fish. In any reckoning, no fish should enter that dt for 72 days. As well as keeping salinity steady, watch your alkalinity: it is a prime culprit in fish that suddenly succumb to ich which they may previously have dodged, because if alk sinks below 7.9 it can affect a fish's slime coat, its protection against this sort of pest. It's a sure bet your dt is now infested, and nothing will go well until you starve the pest out.

gone fishin · 09/05/2016, 10:52 AM

If you have ich then all the fish need to be treated since all the fish have been exposed.

There are not any reef safe in the display tank ich treatments. You can do the Tank transfer method(TTM), copper or hypo-salinity( the toughest to do IMO). All of these are done in a quarantine/hospital tank. There are some good stickies in the fish disease forum. good luck just my 2 cents.

09/05/2016, 08:32 AM	#1
bowhunterj Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 76	ich? Does ich come on suddenly over night? I have a kole tang that was fine yesterday eating and no sign of ich . I check all fish everyday. and today he's head down between two rocks still breathing but looks like white spots all over should I treat the whole tank or remove to another Q tank? please help! all other fish look good!

09/05/2016, 08:47 AM	#3
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Remove all fish (inverts and corals can stay) to a qt tank and treat. I'd say TTM. Read the sticky. No fish should enter the dt for 72 days. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

09/05/2016, 10:44 AM	#6
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Sorry. That ich treatment doesn't work, and the fish if that bad that fast is in trouble. Get him into qt with treatment asap. Ich is not about stress. It's an animal like fleas. You need to de-flea the fish, and set up a tank where you can treat him. A bare 10 gallon tank with anti-jump protection, a filter, and heater are all you need. Even a 5 gallon bucket. Alternate bucket and tank with filter, according to the instructions in the TTM sticky and you may save your fish. In any reckoning, no fish should enter that dt for 72 days. As well as keeping salinity steady, watch your alkalinity: it is a prime culprit in fish that suddenly succumb to ich which they may previously have dodged, because if alk sinks below 7.9 it can affect a fish's slime coat, its protection against this sort of pest. It's a sure bet your dt is now infested, and nothing will go well until you starve the pest out. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

09/05/2016, 10:52 AM	#7
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	If you have ich then all the fish need to be treated since all the fish have been exposed. There are not any reef safe in the display tank ich treatments. You can do the Tank transfer method(TTM), copper or hypo-salinity( the toughest to do IMO). All of these are done in a quarantine/hospital tank. There are some good stickies in the fish disease forum. good luck just my 2 cents. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

09/05/2016, 08:41 AM	#2
niladride Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 567	What I have read is that you have to treat all fishes in separate tank and leave display fish-less for 72 days to eliminate ich parasite completely.

09/05/2016, 09:39 AM	#4
bowhunterj Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 76	ya knew ' I built a cabinet to hide my top off water yesterday. would I have just stressed him that much? I didn't notice if I did . I removed him to qt tank and it looks like the spots are gone ? would he just be under enough stress to look spoty,?

09/05/2016, 10:28 AM	#5
bowhunterj Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 76	has anyone ever used Kordon herbal ich treatment? read that it won't hurt anything but may close coral for a few days. my tank is rather new with not maney coral anyway.