Azure Damselfish attacked by Chromis and Royal Gramma

enb141 · 09/23/2016, 06:19 PM

I was trying to put my Azure Damselfish from my quarantine tank to my display tank but my Chromis and the Royal Gramma are trying to kill her so I had to take her of the main tank and back to my quarantine tank.

Is there a way I can do to put again the azure damsel or what I can I do to try to put this fish into my main tank

Marshall O · 09/23/2016, 06:43 PM

I would use an acclimation box for starters. The day you go to release, rearrange all of your rockwork. This has always worked for me.

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enb141 · 09/23/2016, 07:03 PM

Moving rocks would be an issue because I have a reef tank so I would like to not move the rocks at all so back to the acclimation box, for how long should the fish stay in the box and do you put the box alone or you put something in the box as well?

hotelbravo · 09/26/2016, 12:01 AM

damsels and chromis typically dont mix. they will kill each other

enb141 · 09/26/2016, 02:57 AM

Damn so now I can't put this damsel on my main tank

Moort82 · 09/26/2016, 03:27 AM

For me damsels are always pretty meek when you add them and hide away until they build up confidence and become more dominant (I've only kept the more peaceful species), so time in the acclimation box would be good for it. I don't think that damsels and chromis are always a bad mix (mixing planktavores can be a prole whatever the species). You have one of the more laid back damsels but you may have better luck keeping it in a pair or small group as damsels become more of a problem when they can't socially interact, and become bored.

enb141 · 09/26/2016, 08:27 AM

So you mean 2 azure damsels will be a better way to climate on my tank instead of just one?

Sk8r · 09/26/2016, 08:42 AM

Take the offenders to the qt, put the damsel in the dt (I assume more than 50 gallons dt) and give it a few days before putting the other two back in.

enb141 · 09/26/2016, 05:05 PM

My tank is a 20 gallon one I tried but they (the gramma and the chromie) attacked my damsel so putting directly to my tank was not a good option

Maritimer · 09/26/2016, 06:28 PM

I've had some luck with distracting resident fish by putting a full-length mirror on the end of the tank when I introduce a new neighbor. They get so riled up attacking their reflections that they don't pay much attention to the new guy - and in a day or three, the new guy's a "resident" too.

Acclimation box, rearranging rockwork also help (though the rockwork, not in every case).

~Bruce

enb141 · 09/26/2016, 06:51 PM

The mirror seems to bee a nice option, I'll check it out if I can get an small mirror as well

Moort82 · 09/27/2016, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by enb141

So you mean 2 azure damsels will be a better way to climate on my tank instead of just one?

The more you have the less hassle an individual will get but it would be better in a larger tank tbh and you would possibly be better with just the one or two. It's the same with chromis tbh.

enb141 · 09/27/2016, 05:04 PM

I was trying to do that with chromies but my assassin chromie killed my other 3 chromies

Moort82 · 09/28/2016, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by enb141

I was trying to do that with chromies but my assassin chromie killed my other 3 chromies

Unfortunately this is a story often told. It's also why some damsels (and yep I know chromis are damsels) are a better bet for some people who can see past their "family reputation".

enb141 · 09/29/2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Moort82

Unfortunately this is a story often told. It's also why some damsels (and yep I know chromis are damsels) are a better bet for some people who can see past their "family reputation".

Sounds like a poets line to me, in other words I didn't understand your point.

But I think you are saying that lots of people knows about damsels being assassins but how to keep more than one of those?

Moort82 · 09/29/2016, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by enb141

Sounds like a poets line to me, in other words I didn't understand your point.

But I think you are saying that lots of people knows about damsels being assassins but how to keep more than one of those?

I was referring to your chromis experience with them killing one another, which is a fairly common result and how damsels may have a nasty reputation but they are often a much better choice than chromis in reality.

enb141 · 09/29/2016, 06:27 PM

You are right, Chromies, Clowns and Damsels are related but seems like Chromies are very assassins like, most stories I've heard with Chromies at the end only one survives.

Moort82 · 09/30/2016, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by enb141

You are right, Chromies, Clowns and Damsels are related but seems like Chromies are very assassins like, most stories I've heard with Chromies at the end only one survives.

That's because the popularly available chromis, same with damsels, are the problem and why we gI've their family the bad name. There are chromis that seem to be better in groups which you rarely see available (such as vanderbuilts).

enb141 · 09/30/2016, 03:30 PM

Do you mean this one?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...21&pcatid=1721

Moort82 · 10/01/2016, 04:41 AM

Yeah those. Lovely little fish in the flesh, pictures don't do them justice but they do best in a really quiet tank.

enb141 · 10/01/2016, 05:52 PM

You are right they look at least cooler than the normal Chromis viridis, I haven't seen them sold in my country but I'm gonna ask my LFS

enb141 · 10/13/2016, 06:21 PM

I finally got my Damsel living in my main tank.

What I did was to add a surgeon Yellow Tang and the damsel at the same time and now when the bad guys try to attack the Damsel the Yellow Tang pushes them away of her.

neiltus · 10/13/2016, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by enb141

I finally got my Damsel living in my main tank.

What I did was to add a surgeon Yellow Tang and the damsel at the same time and now when the bad guys try to attack the Damsel the Yellow Tang pushes them away of her.

is the dt a 20g or is that the qt?

enb141 · 10/13/2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by neiltus

is the dt a 20g or is that the qt?

Yep in the 20 gallon tank.

hotelbravo · 10/14/2016, 06:59 AM

You have a yellow tang in a 20 gallon tank??

09/23/2016, 06:19 PM	#1
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	Azure Damselfish attacked by Chromis and Royal Gramma I was trying to put my Azure Damselfish from my quarantine tank to my display tank but my Chromis and the Royal Gramma are trying to kill her so I had to take her of the main tank and back to my quarantine tank. Is there a way I can do to put again the azure damsel or what I can I do to try to put this fish into my main tank

09/26/2016, 12:01 AM	#4
hotelbravo Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,175	damsels and chromis typically dont mix. they will kill each other __________________ -Hodge Current Tank Info: 180 gallon, 40b sump. 3x OR T247 lighting, Reef Octopus protein skimmer, phosban 550 reactor, tunze ato, gyre xf 150, 2x mag 9.5 returns.

09/26/2016, 08:42 AM	#8
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Take the offenders to the qt, put the damsel in the dt (I assume more than 50 gallons dt) and give it a few days before putting the other two back in. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

09/26/2016, 06:28 PM	#10
Maritimer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW Connecticut, U.S.A. Posts: 419	I've had some luck with distracting resident fish by putting a full-length mirror on the end of the tank when I introduce a new neighbor. They get so riled up attacking their reflections that they don't pay much attention to the new guy - and in a day or three, the new guy's a "resident" too. Acclimation box, rearranging rockwork also help (though the rockwork, not in every case). ~Bruce __________________ Because anything else ... is just a fishtank. Zoey's Reef has come to life! Zoas, 'shrooms and LPS of several sorts, CUC, dartfish, wrasses and others swim above the sand . . . Current Tank Info: Kingston & Zoey's Reef; 220g, Deltec skimmer, 2 MaxSpect Gyre x-50s, 2,500gph or so through the sump. SPS are surviving . . .

10/14/2016, 06:59 AM	#25
hotelbravo Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,175	You have a yellow tang in a 20 gallon tank?? __________________ -Hodge Current Tank Info: 180 gallon, 40b sump. 3x OR T247 lighting, Reef Octopus protein skimmer, phosban 550 reactor, tunze ato, gyre xf 150, 2x mag 9.5 returns.

09/23/2016, 06:43 PM	#2
Marshall O Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Central MA Posts: 839	I would use an acclimation box for starters. The day you go to release, rearrange all of your rockwork. This has always worked for me. Sent from my XT1565 using Tapatalk

09/23/2016, 07:03 PM	#3
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	Moving rocks would be an issue because I have a reef tank so I would like to not move the rocks at all so back to the acclimation box, for how long should the fish stay in the box and do you put the box alone or you put something in the box as well?

09/26/2016, 02:57 AM	#5
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	Damn so now I can't put this damsel on my main tank

09/26/2016, 03:27 AM	#6
Moort82 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norfolk, England Posts: 1,576	For me damsels are always pretty meek when you add them and hide away until they build up confidence and become more dominant (I've only kept the more peaceful species), so time in the acclimation box would be good for it. I don't think that damsels and chromis are always a bad mix (mixing planktavores can be a prole whatever the species). You have one of the more laid back damsels but you may have better luck keeping it in a pair or small group as damsels become more of a problem when they can't socially interact, and become bored.

09/26/2016, 08:27 AM	#7
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	So you mean 2 azure damsels will be a better way to climate on my tank instead of just one?

09/26/2016, 05:05 PM	#9
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	My tank is a 20 gallon one I tried but they (the gramma and the chromie) attacked my damsel so putting directly to my tank was not a good option

09/26/2016, 06:51 PM	#11
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	The mirror seems to bee a nice option, I'll check it out if I can get an small mirror as well

09/27/2016, 05:04 PM	#13
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	I was trying to do that with chromies but my assassin chromie killed my other 3 chromies

09/29/2016, 06:27 PM	#17
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	You are right, Chromies, Clowns and Damsels are related but seems like Chromies are very assassins like, most stories I've heard with Chromies at the end only one survives.

09/30/2016, 03:30 PM	#19
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	Do you mean this one? http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...21&pcatid=1721

10/01/2016, 04:41 AM	#20
Moort82 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norfolk, England Posts: 1,576	Yeah those. Lovely little fish in the flesh, pictures don't do them justice but they do best in a really quiet tank.

10/01/2016, 05:52 PM	#21
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	You are right they look at least cooler than the normal Chromis viridis, I haven't seen them sold in my country but I'm gonna ask my LFS

10/13/2016, 06:21 PM	#22
enb141 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 148	I finally got my Damsel living in my main tank. What I did was to add a surgeon Yellow Tang and the damsel at the same time and now when the bad guys try to attack the Damsel the Yellow Tang pushes them away of her.