Darwin jawfish.

Bent · 09/26/2016, 11:53 AM

http://m.liveaquaria.com/diversden/I...+3&ddid=325359

I've literally never heard of this fish. Any info on it? Not considering buying it, ever given the price. Just curious.

Bongo Shrimp · 09/26/2016, 02:37 PM

Pretty rare, probably due to size. I mean a foot long jawfish is kind of terrifying. You'd have to have a sand bed so deep there wouldn't be room for water in a normal tank.

joshky · 09/26/2016, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bongo Shrimp

Pretty rare, probably due to size. I mean a foot long jawfish is kind of terrifying. You'd have to have a sand bed so deep there wouldn't be room for water in a normal tank.

Yeah, I can't see anyone but a public aquarium actually being able to house this fish long-term, I'm sure it needs a 4' sand bed or larger fully grown. Not many people have 48" tall tanks, this one would require at least double that. I'm sure you could get away with a 2' sand bed for a while, maybe its whole life if it doesn't exceed 8"~ in captivity, who knows, still a pretty ridiculous fish to sell.

JoeTSI · 09/26/2016, 03:29 PM

LOL, Minimum Tank Size - 125 Gallons

Dkuhlmann · 09/26/2016, 03:29 PM

Oh we have a member that can house this easily.

Look up Hedgedrew he's got a 20,000 gal tank in his house. Just finishing up building it. There is a thread of his build in the Large Reef Tanks forum. It's painful waiting for them to finish up but it's one hell of a project. It's worth looking for the thread on it.

BlackTip · 09/26/2016, 04:27 PM

I don't know why they capture such large fish from the wild knowing that it is most likely won't survive in captivity. It is upsetting.

joshky · 09/26/2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dkuhlmann

Oh we have a member that can house this easily.

Look up Hedgedrew he's got a 20,000 gal tank in his house. Just finishing up building it. There is a thread of his build in the Large Reef Tanks forum. It's painful waiting for them to finish up but it's one hell of a project. It's worth looking for the thread on it.

Let me back step there, I know there are a select few who have tanks like this, but that's few and far between. I'm sure people who stock these tanks do not shop at Liveaquaria either, they probably work with wholesalers or divers.

Dkuhlmann · 09/26/2016, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joshky

Let me back step there, I know there are a select few who have tanks like this, but that's few and far between. I'm sure people who stock these tanks do not shop at Liveaquaria either, they probably work with wholesalers or divers.

Actually Drew does buy a lot of fish from Live Aquaria and Divers Den. I'm sure he has other sources as well but the people that work there know of him very well.

ThRoewer · 09/26/2016, 05:58 PM

These fish are by now means rare, there is just not much demand for these kind of fish beyond public aquaria. My guess would be that this was some bycatch or someone ordered it and then backed out.

Bent · 09/26/2016, 06:15 PM

It's a cool fish.

ThRoewer · 09/26/2016, 06:19 PM

I find the Harlequin Smiler (Opistognathus eximius) much cooler:

Also from Down Under, but instead of the north it's from the GBR region.

Bongo Shrimp · 09/26/2016, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

These fish are by now means rare, there is just not much demand for these kind of fish beyond public aquaria. My guess would be that this was some bycatch or someone ordered it and then backed out.

They are definitely rare in the trade.

09/26/2016, 11:53 AM	#1
Bent I got nothin' Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The anals Posts: 6,420	Darwin jawfish. http://m.liveaquaria.com/diversden/I...+3&ddid=325359 I've literally never heard of this fish. Any info on it? Not considering buying it, ever given the price. Just curious. __________________ Quitters never lose. [QUOTE=CStrickland]Who gets mad at a starfish?[/QUOTE] Current Tank Info: 75g DT, 30G refugium, 10g chaeto tank, 50g stock tank basement sump

09/26/2016, 02:37 PM	#2
Bongo Shrimp P. ceratophthalma Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,637	Pretty rare, probably due to size. I mean a foot long jawfish is kind of terrifying. You'd have to have a sand bed so deep there wouldn't be room for water in a normal tank. __________________ 75g Rainfordia Project

09/26/2016, 03:29 PM	#4
JoeTSI Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 257	LOL, Minimum Tank Size - 125 Gallons __________________ Joe 210 Gallon; Vortech MP40x2; Maxspect Gyre 280; 2xKessil AP700; Tunze ATO with custom 15 gallon acrylic top off tank; BRS Dual Media Reactor

09/26/2016, 03:29 PM	#5
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Oh we have a member that can house this easily. Look up Hedgedrew he's got a 20,000 gal tank in his house. Just finishing up building it. There is a thread of his build in the Large Reef Tanks forum. It's painful waiting for them to finish up but it's one hell of a project. It's worth looking for the thread on it. __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

09/26/2016, 04:27 PM	#6
BlackTip Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,598	I don't know why they capture such large fish from the wild knowing that it is most likely won't survive in captivity. It is upsetting. __________________ 325G DT. 100G sump. In-sump refugium. SRO-5000SSS. 2 Gyres 150. 2 Water Blaster HY-5000. 2 Razor 320W. Apex Gold. MR2 GFO. 2 800W Heaters. Tunze Osmolater. 2 20g-long QT tanks. Geo 624 CA. 80W UV

09/26/2016, 05:58 PM	#9
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	These fish are by now means rare, there is just not much demand for these kind of fish beyond public aquaria. My guess would be that this was some bycatch or someone ordered it and then backed out. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

09/26/2016, 06:15 PM	#10
Bent I got nothin' Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The anals Posts: 6,420	It's a cool fish. __________________ Quitters never lose. [QUOTE=CStrickland]Who gets mad at a starfish?[/QUOTE] Current Tank Info: 75g DT, 30G refugium, 10g chaeto tank, 50g stock tank basement sump

09/26/2016, 06:19 PM	#11
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	I find the Harlequin Smiler (Opistognathus eximius) much cooler: Also from Down Under, but instead of the north it's from the GBR region. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...