flame scallop...

JodiM · 10/13/2016, 07:34 PM

LFS attached the scallop to a shell.... How in the world do I get him off there so he can move around or whatever it is they do??

SnoopyDaPimp · 10/13/2016, 07:53 PM

Can you post a pic? That will help with ideas on how to remove. Definitely do not try pry them apart

Sk8r · 10/13/2016, 07:57 PM

If you can work a razor blade or frisket blade between scallop and the attached shell you may be able to free him.

Ron Reefman · 10/14/2016, 02:49 AM

Just put it in your tank. If the flame scallop isn't happy on the shell, it will move by itself. Or you could break the shell it's attached to so that only a small piece that it is attached to is left and then put it where you want it in the tank. Trying to pry it loose is a 75:25 proposition. It may come loose (75%) or you may damage it's foot and kill it (25%).

JodiM · 10/14/2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoopyDaPimp

Can you post a pic? That will help with ideas on how to remove. Definitely do not try pry them apart

I can pull it out for a better pic if need be

heathlindner25 · 10/14/2016, 04:59 PM

So your lfs glued that scallop to the shell? I would stop going there.

snorvich · 10/14/2016, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by heathlindner25

So your lfs glued that scallop to the shell? I would stop going there.

Good point.

2smokes · 10/14/2016, 09:00 PM

Try to release him by using a sharp knife and put the knife between the glue and the bottom shell.The flame will still have the glue on it but you could try to take the glue easyer after ,bit by bit.Do not try to separate the flame from the glue directly because it might hold too well and you could crack the shell.If its not working then you could leave it that way or you could try to polish the big shell with an angle grinder or a grinder that has variable speed ,on low speed.You could polish a litle then rinse in a bucket with a litle saltwater then polish again 5 seconds, rinse in SW and so on.Dont polish until it heats .Rinse every 5 seconds in water to chill it and to wash the dust .Use a dust mask and gogles .Shell dust its bad for the lungs.

Sk8r · 10/14/2016, 11:39 PM

I'm not familar with scallops---do they have byssal threads, and is it possible the store did NOT glue it, but that the creature attached itself? If they do what clams do, it's a natural adhesion that should not be messed with. But I do not know scallops. I THINK they're free-ranging, no threads.

Ron Reefman · 10/15/2016, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sk8r

I'm not familar with scallops---do they have byssal threads, and is it possible the store did NOT glue it, but that the creature attached itself? If they do what clams do, it's a natural adhesion that should not be messed with. But I do not know scallops. I THINK they're free-ranging, no threads.

Sk8r, they do move around on their own pretty well by opening and closing the shell. But when they find a spot they want to call home, they do attach just like most other clams. We have a spot in the Keys where flame scallops are very common (red ones and white ones). They attach to the rock pretty well, but most of the time (75% or more), if you work at them gently, they will release unharmed.

But from the photo the OP posted, it looks like this one might be glued by the side of the shell to another shell? If the LFS did that, I'd quit going there!

thegrun · 10/15/2016, 06:29 PM

On a side note they are nearly impossible to keep long term, better left in the ocean.

ssick92 · 10/15/2016, 06:35 PM

I agree with everyone so far. They will attach when they are happy, but will often move around to different areas of the tank and attach only temporarily. Definitely looks like the LFS glued it to the shell because they attach at the base of the scallop, not on the side...

I'd use a knife and try to pry it off of the shell. Either way I wouldn't plan on having it more than a few months... And definitely stop going to that LFS if it is indeed glued.

Ron Reefman · 10/16/2016, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thegrun

On a side note they are nearly impossible to keep long term, better left in the ocean.

Mostly yes and a very qualified no.

They die in new tanks. They don't do well in tanks that are ultra clean or not fully matured. But in a mature tank, at least 1 or 2 years running, with more natural filtration like a refugium and good feeding practices, they can do well.

I've had flame scallops in my tank for years. The one I have even survived 4 weeks in a holding tank after my 180 sprang a leak and I set up a new system. It's now doing just fine in my 125. But the new tank has lots of mature LR, lots of corals, only 2 small fish and I feed fairly heavily. And a few weeks ago I set up a 50g refugium on a 125g tank with a 40g sump. No GFO, no carbon filtration, no phosphate reactor, no carbon dosing, just filter socks, a good skimmer and a healthy refugium.

shadowmonster · 10/16/2016, 10:06 AM

This link might help.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2002/7/inverts

JodiM · 10/16/2016, 12:38 PM

Ok, so after days of watching it, I think it attached itself to the shell. He has been moving around, just enough for me to noticed that he isn't glued. So that makes me happy.

Yes, 8 know and haven't heard they don't last terribly long in tanks. I'm trying my best with it. Researching and asking questions, target feeding and what not.

Thank you everyone for your input

Joe0813 · 10/16/2016, 12:56 PM

Hopefully it works for you

10/13/2016, 07:34 PM	#1
JodiM Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 119	flame scallop... LFS attached the scallop to a shell.... How in the world do I get him off there so he can move around or whatever it is they do??

10/13/2016, 07:53 PM	#2
SnoopyDaPimp Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 492	Can you post a pic? That will help with ideas on how to remove. Definitely do not try pry them apart __________________ ( 0 \ l / 0 ) & no tanks for now

10/13/2016, 07:57 PM	#3
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	If you can work a razor blade or frisket blade between scallop and the attached shell you may be able to free him. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

10/14/2016, 02:49 AM	#4
Ron Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 10,431	Just put it in your tank. If the flame scallop isn't happy on the shell, it will move by itself. Or you could break the shell it's attached to so that only a small piece that it is attached to is left and then put it where you want it in the tank. Trying to pry it loose is a 75:25 proposition. It may come loose (75%) or you may damage it's foot and kill it (25%). __________________ The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Visit my build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2593017

10/14/2016, 11:39 PM	#9
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	I'm not familar with scallops---do they have byssal threads, and is it possible the store did NOT glue it, but that the creature attached itself? If they do what clams do, it's a natural adhesion that should not be messed with. But I do not know scallops. I THINK they're free-ranging, no threads. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

10/14/2016, 04:59 PM	#6
heathlindner25 Moved On Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 3,644	So your lfs glued that scallop to the shell? I would stop going there.

10/14/2016, 09:00 PM	#8
2smokes Moved On Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: romania Posts: 515	Try to release him by using a sharp knife and put the knife between the glue and the bottom shell.The flame will still have the glue on it but you could try to take the glue easyer after ,bit by bit.Do not try to separate the flame from the glue directly because it might hold too well and you could crack the shell.If its not working then you could leave it that way or you could try to polish the big shell with an angle grinder or a grinder that has variable speed ,on low speed.You could polish a litle then rinse in a bucket with a litle saltwater then polish again 5 seconds, rinse in SW and so on.Dont polish until it heats .Rinse every 5 seconds in water to chill it and to wash the dust .Use a dust mask and gogles .Shell dust its bad for the lungs.

10/15/2016, 06:29 PM	#11
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	On a side note they are nearly impossible to keep long term, better left in the ocean.

10/15/2016, 06:35 PM	#12
ssick92 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Clemente, CA Posts: 911	I agree with everyone so far. They will attach when they are happy, but will often move around to different areas of the tank and attach only temporarily. Definitely looks like the LFS glued it to the shell because they attach at the base of the scallop, not on the side... I'd use a knife and try to pry it off of the shell. Either way I wouldn't plan on having it more than a few months... And definitely stop going to that LFS if it is indeed glued. __________________ John IM Nuvo 10g Mixed Reef Nano \| Kessil A160we \| Mp10QD \| Osmolator Nano

10/16/2016, 10:06 AM	#14
shadowmonster Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 197	This link might help. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2002/7/inverts

10/16/2016, 12:38 PM	#15
JodiM Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 119	Ok, so after days of watching it, I think it attached itself to the shell. He has been moving around, just enough for me to noticed that he isn't glued. So that makes me happy. Yes, 8 know and haven't heard they don't last terribly long in tanks. I'm trying my best with it. Researching and asking questions, target feeding and what not. Thank you everyone for your input

10/16/2016, 12:56 PM	#16
Joe0813 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston strong Posts: 2,766	Hopefully it works for you __________________ Joe and Jenny Current Tank Info: 180 reef