How bad is it if LFS water got into my tank

PirateLove · 12/02/2016, 06:50 AM

I bought a snail and the magnets I was using to hold him out of the water failed. About a half to full cup of water went into my sump. Should I be worried??

Big K · 12/02/2016, 06:53 AM

From what I've read, most of the issues with bag water is produced by the fish itself in transport. Not due to horrible conditions existing at the retailer. How long was it in the bag?

I wouldn't think a half cup of any type of water could seriously impact a 42 gallon system.

mcgyvr · 12/02/2016, 06:53 AM

Oh yes... time to break the tank down.. Your saltwater career is over just like that..

Its fine...

FWIW.. I've never qt'd/ttm/dipped ANYTHING in 20 years of this.. I've never had ich.. Never had any problems that I can relate to it.. I routinely put water/fish straight from the bag right into the tank... I'm a gosh darn rebel..

Big K · 12/02/2016, 06:58 AM

Do you ever get livestock shipped to you?

PirateLove · 12/02/2016, 07:09 AM

It was only one snail. No fish. It was in the bag from approximately 9 hours. I have never had livestock shipped to me. This was local.

crawlerman · 12/02/2016, 07:50 AM

Your fine, but why would you leave him in a bag for 9 hours if you got him locally. Should get them started on the acclimation as fast as possible. Read the death in bag sticky above, good info.

ca1ore · 12/02/2016, 08:39 AM

No worries at all. Anything 'bad' in that water is on the animal already anyhow. When I buy a new fish, all the shipping water goes into QT along with said fish.

PirateLove · 12/02/2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crawlerman

Your fine, but why would you leave him in a bag for 9 hours if you got him locally. Should get them started on the acclimation as fast as possible. Read the death in bag sticky above, good info.

I understand, been in the hobby for 5 years but after I placed him in the tank to get the temperature matched I fell asleep (working 24 hour shift and just passed out in bed.) When I woke up I immediately started acclimation and put a drop of Prime into the bag. He is now out and moving freely through the tank. I was just worried about the water that was introduced into my tank

PirateLove · 12/02/2016, 08:42 AM

PS. Thank you to everyone who responded! I really appreciate the feedback.

Jah2707 · 12/02/2016, 09:04 AM

I think the bigger problem would have been if it was a fish. Many times LFS will have copper in fish only water. You wouldn't want to get any of that in your tank. Coral or Invert water should be just fine. The reason most don't put coral water in their tank is due to not wanting to introduce some type of bad hitch hiker. Or the possibility it dirty water due to some decay.

This is at least my understanding. If i am wrong please someone correct me.

ca1ore · 12/02/2016, 09:13 AM

I haven't put a fish directly into my display from any source in over a decade, though I doubt a small quantity if water with copper would affect anything.

billdogg · 12/02/2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mcgyvr

Oh yes... time to break the tank down.. Your saltwater career is over just like that..

THIS!!!

Or perhaps this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca1ore

No worries at all. Anything 'bad' in that water is on the animal already anyhow. When I buy a new fish, all the shipping water goes into QT along with said fish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca1ore

I haven't put a fish directly into my display from any source in over a decade, though I doubt a small quantity if water with copper would affect anything.

scooter31707 · 12/02/2016, 02:44 PM

Just hope the water is not infected with any parasites. That's the only thing I would worry about.

Sk8r · 12/03/2016, 02:03 PM

Inverts aren't kept in tanks with meds or copper because it kills them. So you don't have chemical contamination to worry about. If the invert was in an invert-only tank, you don't have to worry about parasites, because fish parasites need fish. If it came from a tank with fish, yes, some worry.
If the store keeps one sump for everything, it's all one tank.

12/02/2016, 06:50 AM	#1
PirateLove Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Lexington,KY Posts: 511	How bad is it if LFS water got into my tank I bought a snail and the magnets I was using to hold him out of the water failed. About a half to full cup of water went into my sump. Should I be worried?? __________________ "Pirate love, is what I'm looking for. Pirate love, is what i'm wanted for." Current tank: Cad Lights 42 versa. Kessil AP700. Some Sps and Lps.

12/02/2016, 06:53 AM	#3
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Oh yes... time to break the tank down.. Your saltwater career is over just like that.. Its fine... FWIW.. I've never qt'd/ttm/dipped ANYTHING in 20 years of this.. I've never had ich.. Never had any problems that I can relate to it.. I routinely put water/fish straight from the bag right into the tank... I'm a gosh darn rebel.. __________________ Who me?

12/02/2016, 07:09 AM	#5
PirateLove Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Lexington,KY Posts: 511	It was only one snail. No fish. It was in the bag from approximately 9 hours. I have never had livestock shipped to me. This was local. __________________ "Pirate love, is what I'm looking for. Pirate love, is what i'm wanted for." Current tank: Cad Lights 42 versa. Kessil AP700. Some Sps and Lps.

12/02/2016, 08:39 AM	#7
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	No worries at all. Anything 'bad' in that water is on the animal already anyhow. When I buy a new fish, all the shipping water goes into QT along with said fish. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

12/02/2016, 08:42 AM	#9
PirateLove Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Lexington,KY Posts: 511	PS. Thank you to everyone who responded! I really appreciate the feedback. __________________ "Pirate love, is what I'm looking for. Pirate love, is what i'm wanted for." Current tank: Cad Lights 42 versa. Kessil AP700. Some Sps and Lps.

12/02/2016, 06:53 AM	#2
Big K Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 10	From what I've read, most of the issues with bag water is produced by the fish itself in transport. Not due to horrible conditions existing at the retailer. How long was it in the bag? I wouldn't think a half cup of any type of water could seriously impact a 42 gallon system.

12/02/2016, 06:58 AM	#4
Big K Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 10	Do you ever get livestock shipped to you?

12/02/2016, 07:50 AM	#6
crawlerman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 503	Your fine, but why would you leave him in a bag for 9 hours if you got him locally. Should get them started on the acclimation as fast as possible. Read the death in bag sticky above, good info.

12/02/2016, 09:04 AM	#10
Jah2707 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: springfield Posts: 889	I think the bigger problem would have been if it was a fish. Many times LFS will have copper in fish only water. You wouldn't want to get any of that in your tank. Coral or Invert water should be just fine. The reason most don't put coral water in their tank is due to not wanting to introduce some type of bad hitch hiker. Or the possibility it dirty water due to some decay. This is at least my understanding. If i am wrong please someone correct me. __________________ 24x24x18 cube tank - set up 4/18/16 (from established tank) led, Jebao RW-4s, Eshopps 20 sump. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2575082 Current Tank Info: 24x24x18 cube

12/02/2016, 09:13 AM	#11
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I haven't put a fish directly into my display from any source in over a decade, though I doubt a small quantity if water with copper would affect anything. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

12/02/2016, 02:44 PM	#13
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	Just hope the water is not infected with any parasites. That's the only thing I would worry about.

12/03/2016, 02:03 PM	#14
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Inverts aren't kept in tanks with meds or copper because it kills them. So you don't have chemical contamination to worry about. If the invert was in an invert-only tank, you don't have to worry about parasites, because fish parasites need fish. If it came from a tank with fish, yes, some worry. If the store keeps one sump for everything, it's all one tank. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.