Critique my Red Sea 425XL build

madreefer2013 · 12/04/2016, 12:18 AM

Red Sea 425XL
Kessil AP700 and tank mounts
Ecotech Vectra L Return Pump
Tunze 9410 DC Skimmer
JBJ Artica Chiller 1/8 HP
Neptune Apex 2016
3x DOS
1Link
Neptune Leak Detector
Vortech MP40QD
Reeflink
Caribsea Rock
Red Sea Live Reef Sand
Aquaforest AF110 media reactor
Aquaforest method
Vertex 4 stage RO/DI

jonnyu · 12/04/2016, 02:04 AM

Everything looks good but skimmer. I would do vertex skimmer. The 150 would be great. I don't know what the aqua forest stuff is. Did you order everything or just making a list ?

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madreefer2013 · 12/04/2016, 02:42 AM

Cool thanks . I was debating between the Vertex 180i but the Tunze had really good feedback in ************. The Aquaforest bit like Zeovit is a new method in keeping SPS corals. I've bought everything already .

Voodoojar · 12/04/2016, 02:46 AM

That's no enough light for that tank. I mean I dont know what you plan to stock it with but it's not going to be enough.

madreefer2013 · 12/04/2016, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Voodoojar

That's no enough light for that tank. I mean I dont know what you plan to stock it with but it's not going to be enough.

I have researched this and some people say it's plenty. If not I will swap out for Radions XR30w.

jonnyu · 12/04/2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by madreefer2013

I have researched this and some people say it's plenty. If not I will swap out for Radions XR30w.

I don't think you will have to swap out. You can always add some t5 supplement. I have done this on a friends tank and we could not believe the difference of growth in her tank

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JoahEsa · 12/04/2016, 01:13 PM

Agree with Jonny. No need to swap out the light. The light will work fine. I use led's for the ability to control spectrums and intensity. If not for that I would never have given up t5s. Put a 2 t5 fixture in front and back and you even out your coverage. The hybrid method is what I plan on doing when I finally get my 240 set up. I don't know that i would ever go straight leds again. The kessil should be enough to cover that tank, but you are probably going to have shadows at the edges. Make sure you have it high enough up to maximize the length it will broadcast to. Just my own opinion. Good luck with the hold. Will follow.

reefkeeper2002 · 12/04/2016, 09:59 PM

Dont forget about the ATO. Tunze osmolator ftw!

CODE3EMT · 12/05/2016, 09:28 AM

I have the Kessil AP700 on my Reefer 450. IT'S A LOT OF LIGHT.

madreefer2013 · 12/07/2016, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by reefkeeper2002

Dont forget about the ATO. Tunze osmolator ftw!

Doesn't the reefer have an ATO already?

madreefer2013 · 12/21/2016, 07:02 AM

Just set this up few days ago. Still need to tidy up wiring..Just also ordered the Giesemann Aurora so they will be replacing the Kessil's.

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madreefer2013 · 12/21/2016, 07:26 AM

Double post.

dmarkham · 12/21/2016, 10:03 AM

Looks good

neiltus · 12/21/2016, 09:30 PM

looking forward to your progress on this.

madreefer2013 · 12/22/2016, 04:19 AM

Thanks guys!
Still need to think about what to do with the damn wires.
Need Broadfield to come around... Just tested 0 phosphates.

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Litfury · 12/23/2016, 06:55 PM

The reefer does have an ATO. It is tiny for the size of tank. I've only had my tank up approximately 4 weeks and I am having to fill my ATO about every 2.5 to 3 days. I also have the 425 xl. I'm hoping BRS has an end of year sale and I'm going to buy a 10 gallon Ato and the tunze osmolator.
Also I have the vertex 180i skimmer. It took like 2.5 weeks to break I'm but now it's skimming like a beast. Also had to raise it with sone egg crate in sump area

Reefiez · 12/24/2016, 12:59 AM

omg those wires! maybe get some zip ties as a temporary solution?

madreefer2013 · 12/27/2016, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Reefiez

omg those wires! maybe get some zip ties as a temporary solution?

Actually there will be a mess even if i tidy up due to the sheer amount of wires.
Im going to leave it for the moment since the 3 DOS and DDR block the view. Also that's what the cabinet door is for. I dont really leave it open.

madreefer2013 · 12/27/2016, 05:27 AM

So I reduced the amount of rocks to make way for a better aquascape and room for coral growth. I now have 63.4lbs instead of 80lbs. BTW these tanks are DEAD SILENT.

I added 3 DOS and DDR into the left hand cabinet. One DOS will be used for auto water changes. Yes the LHS is still a mess but will think about reorganizing it when I get things finally setup.
I'm also going hard plumb the return into a manifold with 2 seperate GFO and carbon reactor and biopellets. Also looking to add a refugium since I have so much space in the sump. I also added a Seneye and Reeflink unit hardwired to my LAN.

I am also going AF and dosing BioS.

madreefer2013 · 01/02/2017, 03:15 AM

So installed Reefdreams baffles for a potential refugium, a Tunze 8850 light and Marine biofilter media balls..

Im seeing some diatoms now and have turned off the lights.

12/04/2016, 12:18 AM	#1
madreefer2013 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 110	Critique my Red Sea 425XL build Red Sea 425XL Kessil AP700 and tank mounts Ecotech Vectra L Return Pump Tunze 9410 DC Skimmer JBJ Artica Chiller 1/8 HP Neptune Apex 2016 3x DOS 1Link Neptune Leak Detector Vortech MP40QD Reeflink Caribsea Rock Red Sea Live Reef Sand Aquaforest AF110 media reactor Aquaforest method Vertex 4 stage RO/DI

12/04/2016, 02:42 AM	#3
madreefer2013 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 110	Cool thanks . I was debating between the Vertex 180i but the Tunze had really good feedback in ***********. The Aquaforest bit like Zeovit is a new method in keeping SPS corals. I've bought everything already . Last edited by madreefer2013; 12/04/2016 at 03:04 AM.*

12/04/2016, 09:59 PM	#8
reefkeeper2002 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Santa Rosa CA Posts: 1	Dont forget about the ATO. Tunze osmolator ftw! __________________ bmw 2002 enthusiast 🐠 Support Your local Machinist! Current Tank Info: 55gal reef 29gal nano 10gal pico

12/21/2016, 07:02 AM	#11
madreefer2013 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 110	Just set this up few days ago. Still need to tidy up wiring..Just also ordered the Giesemann Aurora so they will be replacing the Kessil's. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] Last edited by madreefer2013; 12/21/2016 at 07:09 AM.

12/21/2016, 09:30 PM	#14
neiltus Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 415	looking forward to your progress on this. __________________ Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2592260

12/04/2016, 02:04 AM	#2
jonnyu Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2,038	Everything looks good but skimmer. I would do vertex skimmer. The 150 would be great. I don't know what the aqua forest stuff is. Did you order everything or just making a list ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/04/2016, 02:46 AM	#4
Voodoojar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 123	That's no enough light for that tank. I mean I dont know what you plan to stock it with but it's not going to be enough.

12/04/2016, 01:13 PM	#7
JoahEsa Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Winneconne Posts: 0	Agree with Jonny. No need to swap out the light. The light will work fine. I use led's for the ability to control spectrums and intensity. If not for that I would never have given up t5s. Put a 2 t5 fixture in front and back and you even out your coverage. The hybrid method is what I plan on doing when I finally get my 240 set up. I don't know that i would ever go straight leds again. The kessil should be enough to cover that tank, but you are probably going to have shadows at the edges. Make sure you have it high enough up to maximize the length it will broadcast to. Just my own opinion. Good luck with the hold. Will follow.

12/05/2016, 09:28 AM	#9
CODE3EMT Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: California Posts: 261	I have the Kessil AP700 on my Reefer 450. IT'S A LOT OF LIGHT.

12/21/2016, 07:26 AM	#12
madreefer2013 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 110	Double post.

12/21/2016, 10:03 AM	#13
dmarkham Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Joshua, TX Posts: 153	Looks good

12/22/2016, 04:19 AM	#15
madreefer2013 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 110	Thanks guys! Still need to think about what to do with the damn wires. Need Broadfield to come around... Just tested 0 phosphates. [IMG][/IMG] Last edited by madreefer2013; 12/22/2016 at 05:06 AM.

12/23/2016, 06:55 PM	#16
Litfury Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 18	The reefer does have an ATO. It is tiny for the size of tank. I've only had my tank up approximately 4 weeks and I am having to fill my ATO about every 2.5 to 3 days. I also have the 425 xl. I'm hoping BRS has an end of year sale and I'm going to buy a 10 gallon Ato and the tunze osmolator. Also I have the vertex 180i skimmer. It took like 2.5 weeks to break I'm but now it's skimming like a beast. Also had to raise it with sone egg crate in sump area

12/24/2016, 12:59 AM	#17
Reefiez Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 157	omg those wires! maybe get some zip ties as a temporary solution? __________________ my reef tank is the best skimmer... of my wallet

12/27/2016, 05:27 AM	#19
madreefer2013 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 110	So I reduced the amount of rocks to make way for a better aquascape and room for coral growth. I now have 63.4lbs instead of 80lbs. BTW these tanks are DEAD SILENT. I added 3 DOS and DDR into the left hand cabinet. One DOS will be used for auto water changes. Yes the LHS is still a mess but will think about reorganizing it when I get things finally setup. I'm also going hard plumb the return into a manifold with 2 seperate GFO and carbon reactor and biopellets. Also looking to add a refugium since I have so much space in the sump. I also added a Seneye and Reeflink unit hardwired to my LAN. I am also going AF and dosing BioS. Last edited by madreefer2013; 12/27/2016 at 06:11 AM.

01/02/2017, 03:15 AM	#20
madreefer2013 Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 110	So installed Reefdreams baffles for a potential refugium, a Tunze 8850 light and Marine biofilter media balls.. Im seeing some diatoms now and have turned off the lights.