Would you accept corals from Ich infested tank?

BlackTip · 03/24/2017, 11:25 AM

As the title says, if you know a tank has Ich, would you accept coral frags from said tank?

WatDatThing · 03/24/2017, 11:30 AM

I would not accept anything just to spare myself from potential headache.

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BlackTip · 03/24/2017, 11:33 AM

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L8Braker · 03/24/2017, 11:40 AM

The question is does coral dip kill ich? I'd assume, so but not a risk I'd take either.

MondoBongo · 03/24/2017, 11:59 AM

absolutely i would accept them. then i would dip them, and quarantine them without fish before introducing to the main system.

FishN00b83 · 03/24/2017, 12:02 PM

I would definitely accept them. I would QT them for over 72 days and put them in my tank!

ca1ore · 03/24/2017, 12:04 PM

Yep, me three!

NYCBOB · 03/24/2017, 12:09 PM

Yes.l, but will qt the corals for 72 days.

BlackTip · 03/24/2017, 12:17 PM

I understand the reasoning behind both answers. I don't have a QT setup for Corals, and I am not going to setup one. It is just too much work.

We all know that most, if not all, LFS have ich in there tanks, and yet almost everyone at one point or another bought corals from an LFS, dip, then introduce to the DT.

And, we can't be sure that the corals we buy online comes for an ich-free tanks.

WatDatThing · 03/24/2017, 12:27 PM

Same. I haven't QT anything at all. Yeap, I'm playing Russian roulette.

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vhuang168 · 03/24/2017, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackTip

I understand the reasoning behind both answers. I don't have a QT setup for Corals, and I am not going to setup one. It is just too much work.

We all know that most, if not all, LFS have ich in there tanks, and yet almost everyone at one point or another bought corals from an LFS, dip, then introduce to the DT.

And, we can't be sure that the corals we buy online comes for an ich-free tanks.

I don't think ich will encrust on corals but I'm sure they do in rock or frag plugs. I usually remove any rock or plugs and glue my own before it goes into my tank.

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Brieninsac · 03/24/2017, 03:38 PM

Sounds like a lot of people have nice bright lights on their QT's to keep corals alive for 72-days.

CarrieB · 03/24/2017, 04:55 PM

Ich can encrust on the stony part of a coral. Given how many people don't QT, I think you have to assume that every coral carries ich and act accordingly.

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CrayolaViolence · 03/24/2017, 06:32 PM

If you take any corals out of the ocean and put them in the tank, you are accepting corals from ich/velvet/and whatever else infected waters.
The only way you will not chance getting disease is to never put anything in your tank. Quarantining is your only way to lower the risk, no matter where the fish or corals come from. Even then it's not 100%

NYCBOB · 03/24/2017, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackTip

I understand the reasoning behind both answers. I don't have a QT setup for Corals, and I am not going to setup one. It is just too much work.

We all know that most, if not all, LFS have ich in there tanks, and yet almost everyone at one point or another bought corals from an LFS, dip, then introduce to the DT.

And, we can't be sure that the corals we buy online comes for an ich-free tanks.

but the OP clearly stated with 100% certainty the corals are coming from an ich-infested tank. LFS tanks may or may not have ich. i dont qt all of my corals. but if it is coming from a tank with 100% certainty then i would have no choice but to qt.

f3honda4me · 03/24/2017, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FishN00b83

I would definitely accept them. I would QT them for over 72 days and put them in my tank!

Exactly this

ali1 · 03/24/2017, 07:18 PM

Depends on how much someone is willing to lose.

In a 55g with small number corals, the risk is probably not important to the owner.

In a 400g , with 2-4k invested in corals, tearing apart your reef due to ich is not an option I'm willing to take.

There's threads in this forum where people are ripping 1200g systems due to ich.

Free or not, all corals and fish gets 90 days in QT. For corals, QT is simply a tank left fallow for 3 months.

It's not even just $$$, work involved to get the tank fallow is a discussion by itself

Fish doctor · 03/25/2017, 07:11 AM

I think you will be fine. If you at like most of the post above suggest.

rjjr1963 · 03/25/2017, 08:00 AM

Never I got bit once and that was enough. I quarantine all my corals now.

03/24/2017, 11:25 AM	#1
BlackTip Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,598	Would you accept corals from Ich infested tank? As the title says, if you know a tank has Ich, would you accept coral frags from said tank? __________________ 325G DT. 100G sump. In-sump refugium. SRO-5000SSS. 2 Gyres 150. 2 Water Blaster HY-5000. 2 Razor 320W. Apex Gold. MR2 GFO. 2 800W Heaters. Tunze Osmolater. 2 20g-long QT tanks. Geo 624 CA. 80W UV

03/24/2017, 11:33 AM	#3
BlackTip Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,598	... __________________ 325G DT. 100G sump. In-sump refugium. SRO-5000SSS. 2 Gyres 150. 2 Water Blaster HY-5000. 2 Razor 320W. Apex Gold. MR2 GFO. 2 800W Heaters. Tunze Osmolater. 2 20g-long QT tanks. Geo 624 CA. 80W UV

03/24/2017, 11:59 AM	#5
MondoBongo Obligate Feeder Obsessed Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,061	absolutely i would accept them. then i would dip them, and quarantine them without fish before introducing to the main system. __________________ [Citation Needed] "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right" - xkcd Current Tank Info: A rectangular shaped money pit.

03/24/2017, 12:02 PM	#6
FishN00b83 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,140	I would definitely accept them. I would QT them for over 72 days and put them in my tank! __________________ My 125 to 180 thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2525019

03/24/2017, 12:04 PM	#7
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Yep, me three! __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/24/2017, 11:30 AM	#2
WatDatThing Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 830	I would not accept anything just to spare myself from potential headache. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

03/24/2017, 11:40 AM	#4
L8Braker Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 143	The question is does coral dip kill ich? I'd assume, so but not a risk I'd take either.

03/24/2017, 12:09 PM	#8
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	Yes.l, but will qt the corals for 72 days.

03/24/2017, 12:17 PM	#9
BlackTip Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,598	I understand the reasoning behind both answers. I don't have a QT setup for Corals, and I am not going to setup one. It is just too much work. We all know that most, if not all, LFS have ich in there tanks, and yet almost everyone at one point or another bought corals from an LFS, dip, then introduce to the DT. And, we can't be sure that the corals we buy online comes for an ich-free tanks. __________________ 325G DT. 100G sump. In-sump refugium. SRO-5000SSS. 2 Gyres 150. 2 Water Blaster HY-5000. 2 Razor 320W. Apex Gold. MR2 GFO. 2 800W Heaters. Tunze Osmolater. 2 20g-long QT tanks. Geo 624 CA. 80W UV

03/24/2017, 12:27 PM	#10
WatDatThing Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 830	Same. I haven't QT anything at all. Yeap, I'm playing Russian roulette. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

03/24/2017, 03:38 PM	#12
Brieninsac Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 782	Sounds like a lot of people have nice bright lights on their QT's to keep corals alive for 72-days. __________________ Red Sea Reefer 350 (73gal/18gal sump) / Kessil a360WE Lights

03/24/2017, 04:55 PM	#13
CarrieB Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 526	Ich can encrust on the stony part of a coral. Given how many people don't QT, I think you have to assume that every coral carries ich and act accordingly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03/24/2017, 06:32 PM	#14
CrayolaViolence Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,867	If you take any corals out of the ocean and put them in the tank, you are accepting corals from ich/velvet/and whatever else infected waters. The only way you will not chance getting disease is to never put anything in your tank. Quarantining is your only way to lower the risk, no matter where the fish or corals come from. Even then it's not 100% __________________ "The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." Neil deGrasse Tyson Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef tank

03/24/2017, 07:18 PM	#17
ali1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 997	Depends on how much someone is willing to lose. In a 55g with small number corals, the risk is probably not important to the owner. In a 400g , with 2-4k invested in corals, tearing apart your reef due to ich is not an option I'm willing to take. There's threads in this forum where people are ripping 1200g systems due to ich. Free or not, all corals and fish gets 90 days in QT. For corals, QT is simply a tank left fallow for 3 months. It's not even just $$$, work involved to get the tank fallow is a discussion by itself __________________ Originally Posted by Gogandantess "I'm totally frustrated by this disease. My display has been fallow for 2 months now. If ich happened to mysteriously appear again, I'm giving up and going back to African Cichilds."

03/25/2017, 07:11 AM	#18
Fish doctor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 189	I think you will be fine. If you at like most of the post above suggest.

03/25/2017, 08:00 AM	#19
rjjr1963 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Nebraska/Missouri Posts: 770	Never I got bit once and that was enough. I quarantine all my corals now. __________________ 72x24x16 115 gallon under construction Current Tank Info: 40 gallon reef