Bryopsis

fsu · 06/18/2017, 07:49 AM

Hi, I have a 29 biocube that has been taken over by bryopsis. I've searched and read other posts, but more or less all I have found is dosing this or that. I don't feel comfortable putting something in my tank that is not in the tank already, as I would like to do this in a more natural way. In honesty I over feed, and I know that is a big part if not the only thing that is causing. I have reduced my feedings significantly. I wanted to know if I could use a toothbrush to get as much as I can off, rinse in fresh saltwater, redo rocks in the tank, then a water change. Obviously i know that i need to reduce phosphates. Will this help at all in clearing my tank of it?

Also, my tank stock is a pair of Banghii Cardinals and a pair of midnight lightning clowns. Then Zoas are the only corals, but there's quite a few and high end ones. Other than that, theres a few snails, a few hermits, and of course pods. The only thing I use is filter pads and a carbon bag.

Yolly416 · 06/18/2017, 07:55 AM

No will not tried all of that and it came back stronger I started the fluconazole pills and now it's all gone

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fsu · 06/18/2017, 08:01 AM

Would the toothbrush help then using the fluconazole IF I decided to go this way? There has to be other ways. Many people had reef and fish tanks before all these dosing remedies and had to have gotten rid of it somehow. I'd like to get rid of it for good from correcting my flaws in the tank so I can learn for my other/future tanks.

Yolly416 · 06/18/2017, 08:10 AM

Just dose and leave it alone it will die off

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fsu · 06/18/2017, 08:23 AM

Thx Holly, i appreciate your responses. I'd just like to use that as a last resort if i cant find any other way.

jccaclimber · 06/18/2017, 08:26 AM

Hydrogen peroxide spot treating daily for a couple days in a row (pumps off), will destroy a local patch, but that's not much more natural than fluconazole.

fsu · 06/18/2017, 08:31 AM

Jc, from what I have read here on rc, peroxide doesn't work on bryopsis, but the fluconazole does. Maybe that's wrong, idk, but I just read several threads that said that.

jccaclimber · 06/18/2017, 08:43 AM

Hydrogen peroxide kills pretty much everything you soak in it, and I've used it to kill briopsis as well as other algae. To be clear, I'm not talking about just putting it in the water column. If I want to kill a patch of algae with H2O2 I use the following procedure.

1) Calculate out the maximum daily dose of H2O2 you are comfortable with. If you aren't sure, start small and increase over a week or two while watching for signs of stress. I have gone as high as 1 mL/gallon. The key to this (guess on my part) is that most of it is broken down in the algae, not filling the water column.
2) Get your H2O2 in some sort of applicator. I use a 10 mL glass pipette, but syringes work too. Obviously you'll be refilling if you are using more than 10 mL.
3) Turn off all pumps and let things settle.
4) Gently inject the H2O2 into the algae patch, enough that most of the fluid in the immediate area is H2O2. You have to be slow with your application and movement, you don't want a strong current to wash it away.
5) Let it sit for 10-15 minutes (it will bubble), then turn everything back on.
6) Repeat the same spots every day until the algae is dead. In my case I'll hit it one day after it is white/dead/falling apart. If you see the slightest sign of color returning, start hitting it again. Each day when you spot treat start with the areas that have already had treatment started before continuing on to new patches.
7) At some point it will be bare rock. If you see the slightest hint of anything coming back out of the rock, even a sprig coming out of a hole, hit it again for a couple days.
8) After a month or so things should be pretty well in order. In my cases the beneficial macro in the fuge has always started taking up the extra nutrients over that month. Obviously if you aren't done in a month just keep hitting it.

06/18/2017, 07:49 AM	#1
fsu Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 477	Bryopsis Hi, I have a 29 biocube that has been taken over by bryopsis. I've searched and read other posts, but more or less all I have found is dosing this or that. I don't feel comfortable putting something in my tank that is not in the tank already, as I would like to do this in a more natural way. In honesty I over feed, and I know that is a big part if not the only thing that is causing. I have reduced my feedings significantly. I wanted to know if I could use a toothbrush to get as much as I can off, rinse in fresh saltwater, redo rocks in the tank, then a water change. Obviously i know that i need to reduce phosphates. Will this help at all in clearing my tank of it? Also, my tank stock is a pair of Banghii Cardinals and a pair of midnight lightning clowns. Then Zoas are the only corals, but there's quite a few and high end ones. Other than that, theres a few snails, a few hermits, and of course pods. The only thing I use is filter pads and a carbon bag. Last edited by fsu; 06/18/2017 at 08:06 AM.

06/18/2017, 07:55 AM	#2
Yolly416 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 71	No will not tried all of that and it came back stronger I started the fluconazole pills and now it's all gone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06/18/2017, 08:01 AM	#3
fsu Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 477	Would the toothbrush help then using the fluconazole IF I decided to go this way? There has to be other ways. Many people had reef and fish tanks before all these dosing remedies and had to have gotten rid of it somehow. I'd like to get rid of it for good from correcting my flaws in the tank so I can learn for my other/future tanks.

06/18/2017, 08:10 AM	#4
Yolly416 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 71	Just dose and leave it alone it will die off Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06/18/2017, 08:23 AM	#5
fsu Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 477	Thx Holly, i appreciate your responses. I'd just like to use that as a last resort if i cant find any other way.

06/18/2017, 08:26 AM	#6
jccaclimber Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 528	Hydrogen peroxide spot treating daily for a couple days in a row (pumps off), will destroy a local patch, but that's not much more natural than fluconazole.

06/18/2017, 08:31 AM	#7
fsu Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 477	Jc, from what I have read here on rc, peroxide doesn't work on bryopsis, but the fluconazole does. Maybe that's wrong, idk, but I just read several threads that said that.

06/18/2017, 08:43 AM	#8
jccaclimber Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 528	Hydrogen peroxide kills pretty much everything you soak in it, and I've used it to kill briopsis as well as other algae. To be clear, I'm not talking about just putting it in the water column. If I want to kill a patch of algae with H2O2 I use the following procedure. 1) Calculate out the maximum daily dose of H2O2 you are comfortable with. If you aren't sure, start small and increase over a week or two while watching for signs of stress. I have gone as high as 1 mL/gallon. The key to this (guess on my part) is that most of it is broken down in the algae, not filling the water column. 2) Get your H2O2 in some sort of applicator. I use a 10 mL glass pipette, but syringes work too. Obviously you'll be refilling if you are using more than 10 mL. 3) Turn off all pumps and let things settle. 4) Gently inject the H2O2 into the algae patch, enough that most of the fluid in the immediate area is H2O2. You have to be slow with your application and movement, you don't want a strong current to wash it away. 5) Let it sit for 10-15 minutes (it will bubble), then turn everything back on. 6) Repeat the same spots every day until the algae is dead. In my case I'll hit it one day after it is white/dead/falling apart. If you see the slightest sign of color returning, start hitting it again. Each day when you spot treat start with the areas that have already had treatment started before continuing on to new patches. 7) At some point it will be bare rock. If you see the slightest hint of anything coming back out of the rock, even a sprig coming out of a hole, hit it again for a couple days. 8) After a month or so things should be pretty well in order. In my cases the beneficial macro in the fuge has always started taking up the extra nutrients over that month. Obviously if you aren't done in a month just keep hitting it.