Super gluing a piece of rock

allendehl · 12/19/2017, 08:00 PM

I've read the many coral experts prefer regular super glue to any of the fancy, more expensive stuff....would this one work?...is it reef safe?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

Also, can someone quickly describe the process? I bought a little piece of rock with some zoas on it and it keeps being knocked over by my urchin, crab and everyone else.
If I place the glue in the rock...wouldn't it dissolve into the water before it cures?

Thanks!

der_wille_zur_macht · 12/19/2017, 08:11 PM

That'll work. Any brand of thick gel will work.

Process is simple. Get the rock out of the water, squeeze on a (bigger than you think) glob of glue, put it where you want it in the tank, give it a wiggle, and hold it in place for a good 30 seconds.

allendehl · 12/20/2017, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by der_wille_zur_macht

That'll work. Any brand of thick gel will work.

Process is simple. Get the rock out of the water, squeeze on a (bigger than you think) glob of glue, put it where you want it in the tank, give it a wiggle, and hold it in place for a good 30 seconds.

Thank you!

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billdogg · 12/20/2017, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by der_wille_zur_macht

That'll work. Any brand of thick gel will work.

Process is simple. Get the rock out of the water, squeeze on a (bigger than you think) glob of glue, put it where you want it in the tank, give it a wiggle, and hold it in place for a good 30 seconds.

^^^This^^^

I would add that a pair of disposable glove will make getting your fingers unstuck a much simpler process. It would seem that I cannot do this without getting at least some on me!

der_wille_zur_macht · 12/20/2017, 09:19 AM

I hate the feel of working with gloves, but that's a good idea. I also hate the feeling of peeling skin off my fingers when they inevitably get glue on them. You think you'd get better at this after a few decades but I still get glue on my fingers routinely.

allendehl · 12/20/2017, 09:23 AM

After reading what zoas can do to people...I'll take the gloves!

Uncle99 · 12/20/2017, 10:13 AM

While you can glue right to a rock, if you put a small amount of expoxy, push the frag into the expoxy, then a bubble of glue and back on, it holds fast and true...

Smokey Stover · 12/20/2017, 10:51 AM

Yes, use the gel, I learned the hard way. Used a rather large amount of regular (thin) Super Glue. on a frag plug. When it broke the surface of the water it floated like an oil slick, My hand went in a little further, Saw the slick, Pulled my hand and the frag out, which coated the (hairy) back of my hand, Fingers, and the frag with a film that stuck like, Well....Super Glue lol.

sde1500 · 12/20/2017, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by der_wille_zur_macht

I hate the feel of working with gloves, but that's a good idea. I also hate the feeling of peeling skin off my fingers when they inevitably get glue on them. You think you'd get better at this after a few decades but I still get glue on my fingers routinely.

I'm right there with you. I like feeling things with my fingers, hate gloves numbing that feeling. Even if it is the feeling of grabbing a bristle worm while removing algae from the tank. Or yes, completely coating finger tips in super glue. Crazy how messy it can get, totally ruined a frag the other day, ended up super gluing a zoa polyp to my finger instead of the rock...

billdogg · 12/20/2017, 03:26 PM

Perhaps because I wear gloves every day at work (I work in a OR), they don't bother me at all. Or at least not as much as peeling my skin off......

allendehl · 12/21/2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokey Stover

Yes, use the gel, I learned the hard way. Used a rather large amount of regular (thin) Super Glue. on a frag plug. When it broke the surface of the water it floated like an oil slick, My hand went in a little further, Saw the slick, Pulled my hand and the frag out, which coated the (hairy) back of my hand, Fingers, and the frag with a film that stuck like, Well....Super Glue lol.

ouch!

jamie1981 · 12/21/2017, 08:00 PM

That tiny loctite tube is actually a lot more expensive than the reef glue. A 2oz bottle of reef glue gel on amazon is about $15 That bottle you linked to is .14 oz

So you'd be paying a good $59 for the same amount of glue!!!

allendehl · 12/21/2017, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jamie1981

That tiny loctite tube is actually a lot more expensive than the reef glue. A 2oz bottle of reef glue gel on amazon is about $15 That bottle you linked to is .14 oz

So you'd be paying a good $59 for the same amount of glue!!!

Lol good point

. Doesn't it gets hard like every super glue I buy?
I really don't need that much so it'll sit there for a while between uses.

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RussC · 12/22/2017, 10:41 AM

BRS offers a good video on attaching corals with a variety of different things. The video is part of a 52 week series on their 160 build. I think this is it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edJ8Lorgxi8

der_wille_zur_macht · 12/22/2017, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by allendehl

Lol good point

. Doesn't it gets hard like every super glue I buy?
I really don't need that much so it'll sit there for a while between uses.

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Keep the tip clean and clear, and store it in the fridge, and it'll last a good year or two.

12/19/2017, 08:00 PM	#1
allendehl Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 692	Super gluing a piece of rock I've read the many coral experts prefer regular super glue to any of the fancy, more expensive stuff....would this one work?...is it reef safe? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1 Also, can someone quickly describe the process? I bought a little piece of rock with some zoas on it and it keeps being knocked over by my urchin, crab and everyone else. If I place the glue in the rock...wouldn't it dissolve into the water before it cures? Thanks! __________________ [Newbie here so please take my opinions carefully] Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 350 (72G) \| Jebao DCT 4000 (1056 GPH Max) \| Reef Octopus 152-S \| 2 X Jebao PP8 (2100 GPH Max)

12/19/2017, 08:11 PM	#2
der_wille_zur_macht Team RC Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 17,749	That'll work. Any brand of thick gel will work. Process is simple. Get the rock out of the water, squeeze on a (bigger than you think) glob of glue, put it where you want it in the tank, give it a wiggle, and hold it in place for a good 30 seconds. __________________ Inconveniencing marine life since 1992 "It is my personal belief that reef aquaria should be thriving communities of biodiversity, representative of their wild counterparts, and not merely collections of pretty specimens growing on tidy clean rock shelves covered in purple coralline algae." (Eric Borneman)

12/20/2017, 09:19 AM	#5
der_wille_zur_macht Team RC Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 17,749	I hate the feel of working with gloves, but that's a good idea. I also hate the feeling of peeling skin off my fingers when they inevitably get glue on them. You think you'd get better at this after a few decades but I still get glue on my fingers routinely. __________________ Inconveniencing marine life since 1992 "It is my personal belief that reef aquaria should be thriving communities of biodiversity, representative of their wild counterparts, and not merely collections of pretty specimens growing on tidy clean rock shelves covered in purple coralline algae." (Eric Borneman)

12/20/2017, 09:23 AM	#6
allendehl Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 692	After reading what zoas can do to people...I'll take the gloves! __________________ [Newbie here so please take my opinions carefully] Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 350 (72G) \| Jebao DCT 4000 (1056 GPH Max) \| Reef Octopus 152-S \| 2 X Jebao PP8 (2100 GPH Max)

12/20/2017, 03:26 PM	#10
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	Perhaps because I wear gloves every day at work (I work in a OR), they don't bother me at all. Or at least not as much as peeling my skin off...... __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

12/20/2017, 10:13 AM	#7
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	While you can glue right to a rock, if you put a small amount of expoxy, push the frag into the expoxy, then a bubble of glue and back on, it holds fast and true...

12/20/2017, 10:51 AM	#8
Smokey Stover Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Largo, Florida Posts: 361	Yes, use the gel, I learned the hard way. Used a rather large amount of regular (thin) Super Glue. on a frag plug. When it broke the surface of the water it floated like an oil slick, My hand went in a little further, Saw the slick, Pulled my hand and the frag out, which coated the (hairy) back of my hand, Fingers, and the frag with a film that stuck like, Well....Super Glue lol.

12/21/2017, 08:00 PM	#12
jamie1981 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 308	That tiny loctite tube is actually a lot more expensive than the reef glue. A 2oz bottle of reef glue gel on amazon is about $15 That bottle you linked to is .14 oz So you'd be paying a good $59 for the same amount of glue!!!

12/22/2017, 10:41 AM	#14
RussC Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gulfport (Mississippi Gulf Coast) Posts: 1,405	BRS offers a good video on attaching corals with a variety of different things. The video is part of a 52 week series on their 160 build. I think this is it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edJ8Lorgxi8 __________________ When a habit begins to cost money, it's called a hobby! Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer XL 425 Alive and Kick'n BOD 8-29-17