T5 Led Bulb

Broly_PT · 03/16/2018, 05:56 AM

Hello my friends

Im in a point that i cant keep my aquarium because the eletricity bill.

I have 8x80 ATI bulb, that i need to reduce the consumption, or my tank will be disable.

I know that brands like E5 sells this bulbs, but the cost of each bulb is high and the reviews that im reading from many forums is not very good.

I see the that other brands are selling bulbs, "sera" for example.
Phillips are starting in this world but i think they dont have bulbs yet.

Any one know other brands ?

My aquarofilia

regards

mcgyvr · 03/16/2018, 06:37 AM

Is an extra few dollars a month really this big of an issue?
Surely it can't be..
You are really only talking like $20 a month..

No offense but if $20 a month is make it or break it then maybe you should sell off your coral/equipment and get out of your money problems.. You likely have hundreds if not thousands of dollars of coral/equipment in there..

If you really need to save money then get out of T5 lighting..
I'm not sure of your tank size from here.. but
You can pick up 4 x Chinese black box LEDS for under $400..
But you are still looking at using oh lets approximate about 400W there so
Now your $20 electricity bill is $12..
So you save $8 a month..
You are looking at maybe ~1.5-2 years before you even break even and start actually saving money..

RobZilla04 · 03/16/2018, 06:52 AM

^ Math

On the plus side the one time cost of going full LED is the elimination of buying replacement blubs every 8-12 months. Eight bulbs @ $30/ea = $240ish. That's two of the four LED fixtures. Sell the existing T5HO fixture for another couple hundred and you've just paid for the LED swap straight out.

I completely agree with McG, if the driving factor is energy cost/savings, you're already on the dead end road.

mcgyvr · 03/16/2018, 06:57 AM

Don't eat lunch once a week.. $5 x 4 = $20..Problem solved...
Savings = instant

added benefit = potential weight loss/longer life,etc...

Watchm@n · 03/16/2018, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgyvr

Don't eat lunch once a week.. $5 x 4 = $20..Problem solved...
Savings = instant

added benefit = potential weight loss/longer life,etc...

^^
Best advice ever

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Watchm@n · 03/16/2018, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broly_PT

Hello my friends

Im in a point that i cant keep my aquarium because the eletricity bill.

I have 8x80 ATI bulb, that i need to reduce the consumption, or my tank will be disable.

I know that brands like E5 sells this bulbs, but the cost of each bulb is high and the reviews that im reading from many forums is not very good.

I see the that other brands are selling bulbs, "sera" for example.
Phillips are starting in this world but i think they dont have bulbs yet.

Any one know other brands ?

My aquarofilia

regards

I have been using 3x E5 bluepop in my ati 6 bulb fixture for about a year and a half with no issues.... Bulbs cost about 8 a piece but they claim 8 year lifespan...

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alton · 03/16/2018, 10:03 AM

I love my T8 LEDS, but I believe the T5HO leds created too much heat and melted in some cases, and were discontinued by many suppliers? To save energy run half your lamps all day, with only running all 8 for 4 hours.

Broly_PT · 03/17/2018, 03:57 AM

hello all, and tnkx for all the answers

My eletricity bill is 240$, and for me is to much... i only receive 800$ a month

I think 4 led fixtures is not enough.

My tank have 250GAL, 66x39x23 inch.

The fixtures you say is marsqua ?

regards

mcgyvr · 03/17/2018, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broly_PT

My eletricity bill is 240$, and for me is to much...

And only $20 of that is your T5 fixture..
Assuming running it 8 hours a day (all you need)

And.. again more math for you...
Your 8 x 80W fixture is using 640watts..
Each of those Marsaqua,etc... type LED fixtures can be 100-165W..
4 of them is at least 400W... 6 of them is 600watts..
Your energy bill will NOT go down unless you reduce the wattage used...
The only savings there would be the savings in bulb replacement costs..

rhinonm · 03/18/2018, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchm@n

I have been using 3x E5 bluepop in my ati 6 bulb fixture for about a year and a half with no issues.... Bulbs cost about 8 a piece but they claim 8 year lifespan...

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I have been using 4x E5 Bluepop in my ATI fixture for 1.5 years too and no issues.

Broly_PT · 03/19/2018, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgyvr

And only $20 of that is your T5 fixture..
Assuming running it 8 hours a day (all you need)

And.. again more math for you...
Your 8 x 80W fixture is using 640watts..
Each of those Marsaqua,etc... type LED fixtures can be 100-165W..
4 of them is at least 400W... 6 of them is 600watts..
Your energy bill will NOT go down unless you reduce the wattage used...
The only savings there would be the savings in bulb replacement costs..

Hello

I have tested the marsaqua consumption, and at all channels at 100% only consume around 120w, if i reduce the white channel, the consumption drops to 80/95w

Broly_PT · 03/19/2018, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhinonm

I have been using 4x E5 Bluepop in my ATI fixture for 1.5 years too and no issues.

Hii

Do you have measured the PAR? of the them??

I have read people saying that the PAR measures have dropped after some time.

regards

mcgyvr · 03/19/2018, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broly_PT

Hello

I have tested the marsaqua consumption, and at all channels at 100% only consume around 120w, if i reduce the white channel, the consumption drops to 80/95w

Oh... pardon me..

6 x 95 = 570... not 6 x 100 = 600
Sorry for rounding..

Broly_PT · 03/19/2018, 04:51 AM

hahaha lol

You have reason, so in your opinion, i have no chance to reduce the bill unless i reduce the size of the aquarium or something like that?

regards

mcgyvr · 03/19/2018, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broly_PT

hahaha lol

You have reason, so in your opinion, i have no chance to reduce the bill unless i reduce the size of the aquarium or something like that?

regards

yes for the most part..

You can reduce the amount you spend on lighting your aquarium but its going to be a few years before you realize any savings as its going to cost you money to get to the point where you can save money..
The savings likely won't be in your electricity bill though but in the fact that if you switch to LED you won't have the reoccurring cost of T5 bulb replacements..

ClownNut · 03/19/2018, 05:45 AM

stay away from e5, output is half of the t5. i have a friend use that over his redsea tank. within a year both bulbs have most of the led burnout. and the electric usage is the same as t5 on an ati fixture.

Kevin Guthrie · 03/19/2018, 06:23 AM

Some possible options which may or may not apply to your situation, hope one or two of these help but yeah, with a tank that size you get a big bill:

Get a Kill-a-watt meter to measure what is actually getting consumed by what piece of equipment. Concentrate on the biggest consumers but they all add up. Not all equipment use as much wattage as advertised in their specs.

Reduce heater cost: insulate the back of the tank, underside, and/or sump. Enclose the top in a hood. Use submersible pump(s) as much as possible. Move lighting ballasts away from the tank.

Reduce chiller cost: Open the top, open the sump, use external pumps, add fans.

Replace pumps and lights with more efficient models.

03/16/2018, 05:56 AM	#1
Broly_PT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 102	T5 Led Bulb Hello my friends Im in a point that i cant keep my aquarium because the eletricity bill. I have 8x80 ATI bulb, that i need to reduce the consumption, or my tank will be disable. I know that brands like E5 sells this bulbs, but the cost of each bulb is high and the reviews that im reading from many forums is not very good. I see the that other brands are selling bulbs, "sera" for example. Phillips are starting in this world but i think they dont have bulbs yet. Any one know other brands ? My aquarofilia regards

03/16/2018, 06:37 AM	#2
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Is an extra few dollars a month really this big of an issue? Surely it can't be.. You are really only talking like $20 a month.. No offense but if $20 a month is make it or break it then maybe you should sell off your coral/equipment and get out of your money problems.. You likely have hundreds if not thousands of dollars of coral/equipment in there.. If you really need to save money then get out of T5 lighting.. I'm not sure of your tank size from here.. but You can pick up 4 x Chinese black box LEDS for under $400.. But you are still looking at using oh lets approximate about 400W there so Now your $20 electricity bill is $12.. So you save $8 a month.. You are looking at maybe ~1.5-2 years before you even break even and start actually saving money.. __________________ Who me?

03/16/2018, 06:52 AM	#3
RobZilla04 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 1,857	^ Math On the plus side the one time cost of going full LED is the elimination of buying replacement blubs every 8-12 months. Eight bulbs @ $30/ea = $240ish. That's two of the four LED fixtures. Sell the existing T5HO fixture for another couple hundred and you've just paid for the LED swap straight out. I completely agree with McG, if the driving factor is energy cost/savings, you're already on the dead end road. __________________ 90g Mixed Reef

03/16/2018, 06:57 AM	#4
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Don't eat lunch once a week.. $5 x 4 = $20..Problem solved... Savings = instant added benefit = potential weight loss/longer life,etc... __________________ Who me?

03/19/2018, 05:45 AM	#16
ClownNut Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,859	stay away from e5, output is half of the t5. i have a friend use that over his redsea tank. within a year both bulbs have most of the led burnout. and the electric usage is the same as t5 on an ati fixture. __________________ Dont let me know where u lived if u have a nice pair of clownfish in ur tank!^_^ Clown kidnaper^_^ Current Tank Info: 300DD, SM200/RD3,ATI 60-8X80+4X75, 2 Sea Sweep & 4X6105 & 6208

03/16/2018, 10:03 AM	#7
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	I love my T8 LEDS, but I believe the T5HO leds created too much heat and melted in some cases, and were discontinued by many suppliers? To save energy run half your lamps all day, with only running all 8 for 4 hours.

03/17/2018, 03:57 AM	#8
Broly_PT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 102	hello all, and tnkx for all the answers My eletricity bill is 240$, and for me is to much... i only receive 800$ a month I think 4 led fixtures is not enough. My tank have 250GAL, 66x39x23 inch. The fixtures you say is marsqua ? regards

03/19/2018, 04:51 AM	#14
Broly_PT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 102	hahaha lol You have reason, so in your opinion, i have no chance to reduce the bill unless i reduce the size of the aquarium or something like that? regards

03/19/2018, 06:23 AM	#17
Kevin Guthrie Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 506	Some possible options which may or may not apply to your situation, hope one or two of these help but yeah, with a tank that size you get a big bill: Get a Kill-a-watt meter to measure what is actually getting consumed by what piece of equipment. Concentrate on the biggest consumers but they all add up. Not all equipment use as much wattage as advertised in their specs. Reduce heater cost: insulate the back of the tank, underside, and/or sump. Enclose the top in a hood. Use submersible pump(s) as much as possible. Move lighting ballasts away from the tank. Reduce chiller cost: Open the top, open the sump, use external pumps, add fans. Replace pumps and lights with more efficient models.