Ouch! I really screwed up!

[fijisrfr]

So, I was showing a client the apex app and accidentally turned on the alk doser. Got home an hour later to this.

It had been constantly dosin alk solution for about an hour.
Have done a 25% water change & will do the same for the next three days.
Hannah read at 20,0
Any other suggestions?


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[WVfishguy]

Why wait three days? I'd do 75%. And more the next day if needed. I've done many massive water changes on tanks, fresh and salt. If the critters were healthy, they can take a change.

[mikem101]

+1 with WVfish guy,
What's better a large volume water change, or swimming in water with 20.0 Alk volume? I would say go with a large volume water change right away! Hope everything turns out ok!!!

[fijisrfr]

Yup, did another 20, it’s clearing up & alk is down to 12.


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[mikem101]

awesome!!! fingers are crossed for you buddy!

[fijisrfr]

Thanks


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[Tripod1404]

I would keep the lights low for several weeks. There was some work showing reducing light will reduce alk burning of corals caused by alk spikes.

[fijisrfr]

Ok, just finished up another WC. Alk now at 10.8
Leaving doser off until it’s in the eights then resume regular dosing schedule. As of now, corals look fine but we all know that it may take a few days or weeks for any problems to show up. Just to add insult to injury, while the lid was off my prized mystery wrasse went carpet surfing, didn’t find him until this morning


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[NO3]

****edited the word. alkalic ****

I would have done a 99% water CHANGE down to a 1inch waterline.

Dkh of 20 will burn up any coral

The OPPOSITE OF acid is alkalic.....and saltwater that alkalic is just as BAD & TOXIC as battery acid being in your water.

Ive seen decade old SPS and chalices burn up like they were soaked on bleach overnight at Dkh of 16+

HOPING your outcome can be saved

[Tripod1404]

Originally Posted by NO3

I would have done a 99% water CHANGE down to a 1inch waterline.

Dkh of 20 will burn up any coral

The OPPOSITE OF acid is alkalitic....

......and saltwater that alkalitic is just as BAD & TOXIC as acid being in your water.

Ive seen decade old SPS and chalices burn up like they were baked in a 500degree oven at Dkh of 16+

HOPING your outcome can be saved

Its alkaline or alkalic, not alkalitic.

[Joe0813]

Ouch... Bad part of an Apex is forgetting to move the slider back over. Hopefully your tank will be ok

[rvareef]

rookie mistake!

[carrots]

Three years ago I made a similar dosing mistake and killed off most of my corals. Afterwards I said no more SPS and the dosing. I tried to walk away but damn this hobby, it keeps pulling me back in. Now here I am again. I am not satisfied with the growth rate of my new SPS corals and I'm ready to start dosing again. Most of us in this hobby can relate to making bonehead mistakes. We learn from them. Hang in there. We are all pulling for you and your corals.

[WVfishguy]

This is the biggest problem with depending on technology. I've spoken to reefers who would much rather have a new gadget than a new coral. I'm always a proponent of Murphy's Law - but I admit it's too much hassle to do everything by hand the way we used to do.

[fijisrfr]

Ok, down to 9.2
No casualties yet



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[swclown]

I did something similar years ago and my alk got up to 18. I did water changes and everything turned out ok with no losses. I think you're fine at this point..

[fijisrfr]

Keepin the fingers crossed.
I’m new at this apex stuff but I believe that I have programmed the dos to shut down if PH rises too much.


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[manilaboy1vic]

Originally Posted by fijisrfr

Keepin the fingers crossed.
I’m new at this apex stuff but I believe that I have programmed the dos to shut down if PH rises too much.


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im having problems with the apex too..

i have my skimmer shut off if the return loses power.. i unplugged my return and the skimmer is happily skimming along.. i might go on the apex site to see what the deal is...

also, i am not dosing right now and i turned off the outlet in apex fusion and it kept dosing.. i updated the firmware too and still the same.. skimmer skimming if i pull the plug on the return..

here is what i have for my DOS statements:


Fallback ON
Set ON
If Output 3_3_ret_pump = OFF Then OFF
If pH > 8.49 Then OFF

[slief]

Originally Posted by manilaboy1vic

im having problems with the apex too..

i have my skimmer shut off if the return loses power.. i unplugged my return and the skimmer is happily skimming along.. i might go on the apex site to see what the deal is...

also, i am not dosing right now and i turned off the outlet in apex fusion and it kept dosing.. i updated the firmware too and still the same.. skimmer skimming if i pull the plug on the return..

here is what i have for my DOS statements:


Fallback ON
Set ON
If Output 3_3_ret_pump = OFF Then OFF
If pH > 8.49 Then OFF

If you pull the plug on the pump, you aren’t shutting the outlet off. You’d need a level sensor to detect the increase of sump level from the pump being off or a flow sensor. Go into Fusion and toggle the return pump outlet to “Off” and see what happens. That should shut the skimmer off. Same with the DOS. Now as far as the Dos is concerned, you’d need to have those statements in the outlet associated with Head 1 or Head 2 on the Dos. Either way, your programming logic will not work if you simply unplug the return pump or if it dies.

[manilaboy1vic]

Originally Posted by slief

If you pull the plug on the pump, you aren’t shutting the outlet off. You’d need a level sensor to detect the increase of sump level from the pump being off or a flow sensor. Go into Fusion and toggle the return pump outlet to “Off” and see what happens. That should shut the skimmer off. Same with the DOS. Now as far as the Dos is concerned, you’d need to have those statements in the outlet associated with Head 1 or Head 2 on the Dos. Either way, your programming logic will not work if you simply unplug the return pump or if it dies.

doesnt this turn off the outlet for the DOS??



that was going to be my next test.. turn the RP to off to see if it shuts the skimmer down.

set this for the heads so during a water change it doesnt start dosing:



thanks,

Sorry OP not trying to hijack..

[slief]

Originally Posted by manilaboy1vic

doesnt this turn off the outlet for the DOS??



that was going to be my next test.. turn the RP to off to see if it shuts the skimmer down.

thanks,

Sorry OP not trying to hijack..

That would turn off the power outlet that the Dos AC power supply is connected but not the dosing head. While the Dos won’t work, it will still be detected by the Apex. This assuming 3_5 is outlet 5 on the EB8 at address 3.

[manilaboy1vic]

Originally Posted by slief

That would turn off the power outlet that the Dos AC power supply is connected but not the dosing head. While the Dos won’t work, it will still be detected by the Apex.

so your saying the apex claims it dosed an amount, but in reality, it did not?

[slief]

Originally Posted by manilaboy1vic

so your saying the apex claims it dosed an amount, but in reality, it did not?

They shouldn’t run when you physically unplug them. Nor should they run if that outlet is off and if in fact you have the Dos power supply plugged into the correct outlet.

[manilaboy1vic]

Originally Posted by slief

They shouldn’t run when you physically unplug them. Nor should they run if that outlet is off and if in fact you have the Dos power supply plugged into the correct outlet.

its the right outlet.. my DDR has been getting lower and lower over the years.. today i physically unplugged it..

so in reality, this didnt actually happen, but according to the apex it thinks it did: