clownfish got ich

FishNDip · 02/08/2019, 03:04 PM

hi,

My clownfish got ich, there are 2 of them, about 1 and a half inches.

Can I put them in a 5 gallon bucket for treatment? Or two small?

hkgar · 02/08/2019, 03:08 PM

How are going to treat them? There are only 3 effective treatment methods. I recommend TTM.

The DT must remain fishles (fallow) for at least 72 days.

In the future put ALL new fish through TTM before introduction to the DT.

hkgar · 02/08/2019, 03:09 PM

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1985626

FishNDip · 02/08/2019, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkgar

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1985626

Not sure what TTM means, but I was going to use hypo treatmeant. Ok for 5 gals?

hkgar · 02/08/2019, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishNDip

Not sure what TTM means, but I was going to use hypo treatmeant. Ok for 5 gals?

Tank transfer method. It is described in the link, as is hypo-salinity.
Which you could do in the display tank (DT), if there are no invertebrates. (DT).

FishNDip · 02/08/2019, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkgar

Tank transfer method. It is described in the link, as is hypo-salinity.
Which you could do in the display tank (DT), if there are no invertebrates. (DT).

No, there are inverts. I'll just do Hypo in my bucket then.

hkgar · 02/08/2019, 04:09 PM

The 72 day fallow period for the display tank is critical to ensure there are no remaining ick parasites in the display.

To avoid the fallow period, i did Hypo in the DT. I removed the inverts to a QT.

NYCBOB · 02/08/2019, 05:07 PM

make sure to leave main display fishless for at least 45 days if not 72. i did it for 6 weeks, and it worked for me.

hkgar · 02/09/2019, 02:05 PM

The reason to go fallow (fishless) is to eliminate a fish disease from your DT (display tank). Going fallow works because you are denying the disease a fish host to feed on, essentially starving it to death.

In order to go fallow you must remove ALL fish from your DT. If just one fish is left behind, even a “disease resistant” species, then going fallow is for naught because the disease will continue its life cycle. Corals/inverts can be left in the DT, as those are not capable of hosting - although some are capable of “housing” the encysted stage of certain parasites for a period of time (see “Fallow Periods” below). It is important to continue to feed your corals/inverts while going fallow, and also put a pinch of flake or pellet food into the DT every 2-3 days to feed nitrifying bacteria in the absence of fish poop. Continue to do everything normally with your tank while going fallow; although you may wish to go lights out if you are running a fish only system (just don’t forget to feed that bacteria!)

Fallow Periods - Below is the general consensus fallow periods for all diseases that require it. In most cases, it is the longest known time period that the encysted stage can survive on corals, inverts, rocks, substrate without a fish host to feed on. The fallow period starts when the last fish is removed from the tank.
Black ich (turbellarian worms) - 4 weeks
Brooklynella aka “Clownfish disease” or “Brook” - 6 weeks
Flukes (monogenean worms) - 4 weeks
Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) - 76 days
Uronema marinum - No fallow period, as it does not require a fish host to survive. It is an opportunistic parasite that strikes when a fish’s immune system has been compromised. Uronema mainly affects damsels (especially chromis) and clownfish.
Velvet (Amyloodinium) - 6 weeks
During the fallow period, the fish must be quarantined and treated for whatever disease(s) are afflicting them (see links below). Successful treatment is imperative to avoid disease(s) from being reintroduced into the DT:

hkgar · 02/09/2019, 02:07 PM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2041951

02/08/2019, 03:04 PM	#1
FishNDip Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Long Beach Posts: 337	clownfish got ich hi, My clownfish got ich, there are 2 of them, about 1 and a half inches. Can I put them in a 5 gallon bucket for treatment? Or two small?

02/08/2019, 03:08 PM	#2
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	How are going to treat them? There are only 3 effective treatment methods. I recommend TTM. The DT must remain fishles (fallow) for at least 72 days. In the future put ALL new fish through TTM before introduction to the DT. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

02/08/2019, 03:09 PM	#3
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1985626 __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

02/08/2019, 04:09 PM	#7
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	The 72 day fallow period for the display tank is critical to ensure there are no remaining ick parasites in the display. To avoid the fallow period, i did Hypo in the DT. I removed the inverts to a QT. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

02/09/2019, 02:05 PM	#9
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	The reason to go fallow (fishless) is to eliminate a fish disease from your DT (display tank). Going fallow works because you are denying the disease a fish host to feed on, essentially starving it to death. In order to go fallow you must remove ALL fish from your DT. If just one fish is left behind, even a “disease resistant” species, then going fallow is for naught because the disease will continue its life cycle. Corals/inverts can be left in the DT, as those are not capable of hosting - although some are capable of “housing” the encysted stage of certain parasites for a period of time (see “Fallow Periods” below). It is important to continue to feed your corals/inverts while going fallow, and also put a pinch of flake or pellet food into the DT every 2-3 days to feed nitrifying bacteria in the absence of fish poop. Continue to do everything normally with your tank while going fallow; although you may wish to go lights out if you are running a fish only system (just don’t forget to feed that bacteria!) Fallow Periods - Below is the general consensus fallow periods for all diseases that require it. In most cases, it is the longest known time period that the encysted stage can survive on corals, inverts, rocks, substrate without a fish host to feed on. The fallow period starts when the last fish is removed from the tank. Black ich (turbellarian worms) - 4 weeks Brooklynella aka “Clownfish disease” or “Brook” - 6 weeks Flukes (monogenean worms) - 4 weeks Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) - 76 days Uronema marinum - No fallow period, as it does not require a fish host to survive. It is an opportunistic parasite that strikes when a fish’s immune system has been compromised. Uronema mainly affects damsels (especially chromis) and clownfish. Velvet (Amyloodinium) - 6 weeks During the fallow period, the fish must be quarantined and treated for whatever disease(s) are afflicting them (see links below). Successful treatment is imperative to avoid disease(s) from being reintroduced into the DT: __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

02/08/2019, 05:07 PM	#8
NYCBOB Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 1,768	make sure to leave main display fishless for at least 45 days if not 72. i did it for 6 weeks, and it worked for me.

02/09/2019, 02:07 PM	#10
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2041951 __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels