Blueberry gorgonian

Zoos · 11/21/2005, 11:00 PM

Just wanted to know what you guys thought about the B.berry gorgonian. is it hardy has anyone kept it long term? and what is the secret?
Thanks
reason i ask is i have some available to me but i don't buy out of impulse, i dont want to buy it and kill it.
thanks again

melev · 11/22/2005, 05:09 AM

Every thread I've seen about it has resulted in the coral no surviving long at all. Which is sad. It really needs to stay in the ocean, or hang out at one of the Live Food labs (Reed Mariculture, etc) where they can feed one unlike we can. It would be interesting to see if they could keep one alive.

BLKTANG · 11/22/2005, 05:22 AM

It wont work,whatever you do,i just had one ,& it died in 2 weeks,i fed it to the point of almost crashing my tank.It sure was beautiful though.

Zoos · 11/22/2005, 09:28 AM

thanks a mil

shanghaireefer · 11/22/2005, 10:18 AM

iTS NOt as difficult as what other are projecting gorgonian to be. Look at my red gorgonian, its as gorgeous as ever. Feedings,
strong water flow, and some larger dosages of iodine help
a lot. Brush off any algae.

melev · 11/22/2005, 03:59 PM

shanghaireefer - that is true about other gargonians, but this one still hasn't been figured out yet, and they die quickly. Weatherson (TOTM currently) had one and it didn't survive either. And his system has pretty much everything a coral could ask for. Apparently, these ask for something we simply can't provide. Yet.

Zoos · 11/22/2005, 08:33 PM

i'm going to have to agree with Marc, there is no sense in spending money and taking a life. i appreciate you trying to help shanghaireefer but i was hoping that someone had figured out its needs and had it thrive in their own system. aparently not. this might be one of the ones best left in the wild.
thanks
Felix

BLKTANG · 11/22/2005, 08:57 PM

Blueberry Gorgonia is Non-Photosynthetic,i was a non beliver @ first to,thought i could keep anything alive cause i have no life,therefore my husbandtry skills are way up.I was turning off all flow,& target feeding this coral like nobodys business,& it still died.So you know i have never killed anything before.I even got a eletric flame goin on 7mo.Here is a pic the day before it died,1-day healthy lookin,next day when i came home from work dead.

melev · 11/22/2005, 10:35 PM

Really! It died literally overnight, like RTN perhaps?

DaddyJax · 11/22/2005, 10:45 PM

I have a little one going on 3 months. That is scary though that it could look that good and then die.

shanghaireefer · 11/23/2005, 02:34 AM

I currently have two types of Gorgonian, the Red Gorgeous one and the blue one. Attached are the pictures. Red one is my favorite ,see the small white polyps extending everytime i add iodine. It looks very healthy with plankton feedings every two to three nites. Will appreciate if Melev would kindly comment on this type of gorgonian. I have this for two months now.

I am also attaching my blue gorgonian. I dont know if this is thebluebery gorgonian you are referring to. Mine has blue
stem/trunk/branches unlike the other picture shown in the
brown colored one. Is my specie a different one, slightly hardier? So far its within me for about four months . It was my favorite until the Red Gorgonian came. Would love to receive your comments.It makesenthusiasts like me nervous, thinking suc ha gorgeous gorgonian would be that beautiful and just get wasted the next day. What is the explanation here? I have fellow aquarists, who had gorgonians too, but they wither first and die after several weeks, not overnite. Was ther any other possible underlying causes ? How about the other creatures in the tank ?

[IMG][IMG]IMG][IMG]IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/shanghaireefer/IMGP0227.jpg[/IMG][/IMG] [/IMG]

shanghaireefer · 11/23/2005, 02:43 AM

Somethjing wrong above, pictures didnt come out ,repeating the pictures

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/IMGP0227.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/IMGP0222.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/100_0856.jpg

BLKTANG · 11/23/2005, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by melev
Really! It died literally overnight, like RTN perhaps?

all but 3-4 pylops had fallen off.Nothing had changed(params),i left it there overnite,& by the next morning it was almost all skelton.

BLKTANG · 11/23/2005, 05:30 AM

Yeah the blue one does look different.The one that i had the stem was a yellowish color.(see pic)

smiller · 11/23/2005, 05:51 AM

I have followed every gorgonian thread I come across, and have for years. If I have seen any nonphotosynthetic success for more that 18 months I can't recall it. Maybe an orange or red finger or two. Maybe not. Never a blueberry.

melev · 11/23/2005, 01:38 PM

Shanghai Reefer, those are different. And they are beautiful. Keep up the good work, and hopefully a year from now you can tell us how it is still doing well. That isn't a challenge, I'm being sincere. If you can keep it alive for 1.5 to 2 years, I'm positive others will want to know what exactly you are doing to accomplish this feat.

reefpeep2004 · 11/23/2005, 02:11 PM

We'll also want to know how to find them. I've never seen a gorgonian in a LFS like his red one. Wow. It's a beauty.

melev · 11/23/2005, 02:13 PM

Well, look at his location.

phishlet · 08/08/2006, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shanghaireefer
Somethjing wrong above, pictures didnt come out ,repeating the pictures

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/IMGP0227.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/IMGP0222.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/100_0856.jpg

How are these gorgonians doing?

11/21/2005, 11:00 PM	#1
Zoos Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,334	Blueberry gorgonian Just wanted to know what you guys thought about the B.berry gorgonian. is it hardy has anyone kept it long term? and what is the secret? Thanks reason i ask is i have some available to me but i don't buy out of impulse, i dont want to buy it and kill it. thanks again __________________ "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." Current Tank Info: None.

11/22/2005, 05:22 AM	#3
BLKTANG Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Never,Never Land Posts: 7,061	It wont work,whatever you do,i just had one ,& it died in 2 weeks,i fed it to the point of almost crashing my tank.It sure was beautiful though. __________________ We the few have done so much,for so long,for so little.That we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. ____________________________________________________________________________ Current Tank Info: RR 90 Maganvore sump,250w Hamilton fixture,VorTec's ASM skimmer.

11/22/2005, 09:28 AM	#4
Zoos Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,334	thanks a mil __________________ "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." Current Tank Info: None.

11/22/2005, 08:33 PM	#7
Zoos Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,334	i'm going to have to agree with Marc, there is no sense in spending money and taking a life. i appreciate you trying to help shanghaireefer but i was hoping that someone had figured out its needs and had it thrive in their own system. aparently not. this might be one of the ones best left in the wild. thanks Felix __________________ "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." Current Tank Info: None.

11/22/2005, 08:57 PM	#8
BLKTANG Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Never,Never Land Posts: 7,061	Blueberry Gorgonia is Non-Photosynthetic,i was a non beliver @ first to,thought i could keep anything alive cause i have no life,therefore my husbandtry skills are way up.I was turning off all flow,& target feeding this coral like nobodys business,& it still died.So you know i have never killed anything before.I even got a eletric flame goin on 7mo.Here is a pic the day before it died,1-day healthy lookin,next day when i came home from work dead. __________________ We the few have done so much,for so long,for so little.That we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. ____________________________________________________________________________ Current Tank Info: RR 90 Maganvore sump,250w Hamilton fixture,VorTec's ASM skimmer.

11/22/2005, 05:09 AM	#2
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Every thread I've seen about it has resulted in the coral no surviving long at all. Which is sad. It really needs to stay in the ocean, or hang out at one of the Live Food labs (Reed Mariculture, etc) where they can feed one unlike we can. It would be interesting to see if they could keep one alive.

11/22/2005, 10:18 AM	#5
shanghaireefer Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: shanghai Posts: 177	iTS NOt as difficult as what other are projecting gorgonian to be. Look at my red gorgonian, its as gorgeous as ever. Feedings, strong water flow, and some larger dosages of iodine help a lot. Brush off any algae.

11/22/2005, 03:59 PM	#6
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	shanghaireefer - that is true about other gargonians, but this one still hasn't been figured out yet, and they die quickly. Weatherson (TOTM currently) had one and it didn't survive either. And his system has pretty much everything a coral could ask for. Apparently, these ask for something we simply can't provide. Yet.

11/22/2005, 10:35 PM	#9
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Really! It died literally overnight, like RTN perhaps?

11/22/2005, 10:45 PM	#10
DaddyJax Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fort Collins, CO. Posts: 3,190	I have a little one going on 3 months. That is scary though that it could look that good and then die. __________________ Success is not measured by the person who has the most but by the person that needs the least!! Current Tank Info: Currently tankless :(

11/23/2005, 02:34 AM	#11
shanghaireefer Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: shanghai Posts: 177	I currently have two types of Gorgonian, the Red Gorgeous one and the blue one. Attached are the pictures. Red one is my favorite ,see the small white polyps extending everytime i add iodine. It looks very healthy with plankton feedings every two to three nites. Will appreciate if Melev would kindly comment on this type of gorgonian. I have this for two months now. I am also attaching my blue gorgonian. I dont know if this is thebluebery gorgonian you are referring to. Mine has blue stem/trunk/branches unlike the other picture shown in the brown colored one. Is my specie a different one, slightly hardier? So far its within me for about four months . It was my favorite until the Red Gorgonian came. Would love to receive your comments.It makesenthusiasts like me nervous, thinking suc ha gorgeous gorgonian would be that beautiful and just get wasted the next day. What is the explanation here? I have fellow aquarists, who had gorgonians too, but they wither first and die after several weeks, not overnite. Was ther any other possible underlying causes ? How about the other creatures in the tank ? [IMG][IMG]IMG][IMG]IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/shanghaireefer/IMGP0227.jpg[/IMG][/IMG] [/IMG] Last edited by shanghaireefer; 11/23/2005 at 02:49 AM.

11/23/2005, 02:43 AM	#12
shanghaireefer Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: shanghai Posts: 177	Somethjing wrong above, pictures didnt come out ,repeating the pictures http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/IMGP0227.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/IMGP0222.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/100_0856.jpg

11/23/2005, 05:30 AM	#14
BLKTANG Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Never,Never Land Posts: 7,061	Yeah the blue one does look different.The one that i had the stem was a yellowish color.(see pic) __________________ We the few have done so much,for so long,for so little.That we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. ____________________________________________________________________________ Current Tank Info: RR 90 Maganvore sump,250w Hamilton fixture,VorTec's ASM skimmer.

11/23/2005, 05:51 AM	#15
smiller Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 9,207	I have followed every gorgonian thread I come across, and have for years. If I have seen any nonphotosynthetic success for more that 18 months I can't recall it. Maybe an orange or red finger or two. Maybe not. Never a blueberry. __________________ Steve It's good to learn from your experiences. It's better to learn from other's experiences.

11/23/2005, 01:38 PM	#16
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Shanghai Reefer, those are different. And they are beautiful. Keep up the good work, and hopefully a year from now you can tell us how it is still doing well. That isn't a challenge, I'm being sincere. If you can keep it alive for 1.5 to 2 years, I'm positive others will want to know what exactly you are doing to accomplish this feat.

11/23/2005, 02:11 PM	#17
reefpeep2004 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Beach CA Posts: 728	We'll also want to know how to find them. I've never seen a gorgonian in a LFS like his red one. Wow. It's a beauty.

11/23/2005, 02:13 PM	#18
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Well, look at his location.