Carbon Reactor

obybobie · 01/31/2006, 09:46 AM

Considerations for use:
Reef Carbon is also soft (this is due to pore size and makeup) and could release dust into the system if mechanically stirred too rapidly. Do not place where water will drop a large distance directly onto the product or churn it violently. Because Reef Carbon is so active, you can use considerably less than with other carbons (about 1/4 lb. or 1 cupful per 100 gallons of tank capacity, you may need more or less depending on how dirty the tank is). Reef Carbon will have done its job, so dose the tank with Kent Marine Essential Elements, Discus Essential, Freshwater Essential, or A F Cichlid Rift Lake Trace Elements as appropriate for your type of system to restore trace elements removed by any carbon. CAUTION: Recent products introduced by other manufacturers that contain strong enzymes may dissolve the binder that holds Reef Carbon together. If this happens the carbon can come apart and cause an ugly mess in your tank. Because of this, DO NOT USE ENZYME PRODUCTS WITH Reef Carbon! Simply remove the carbon, use the product, then replace the carbon several days later.
ARIGHTY THATS PRETTY MUCH THE DIRECTIONS I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IN THE PHOSBAN REACTOR FULL OF KENTMARINE CARBON WITH A RIO 180, IS THIS TOO MUCH CARBON?, I JUST TURNED OFF MY PUMP TO THE REACTOR CAUSE I READ THE DIRECTIONS SO I WAS AFRAID THAT I WAS REMOVING TRACE ELEMENTS, O YA AND MY SKIMMER STOP SKIMMING, MAY BE A INDICATION THAT IT REMOVED ALOT OF ORGANICS I GUESS.

elephen · 01/31/2006, 10:13 AM

Did you flush the media before you added it to your tank?

J_Geisinger000 · 01/31/2006, 10:17 AM

Im using a phosban reactor with activated carbon
my reactor is about half full for my 90 gallon

it does remove trace elements but you get those back by doing water changes and additives

the pros of running carbon out weigh the cons in my opinion
plus the carbon makes for nicer looking water and tank display

obybobie · 01/31/2006, 10:36 AM

yes i did flush the media

elephen · 01/31/2006, 10:37 AM

Sometimes when you add carbon to a system that has been without it for a while you can put things in 'shock' since carbon will quickly absorb impurities. Also could be the carbon dust got back into the sump from not being flushed out prior (as I mentioned above) and that can cause some odd stuff in the system -- e.g. causing your skimmate production to temporarely stop.

obybobie · 01/31/2006, 10:44 AM

welp i fushed the medium and i have a 250 micron bag at the end of the reactor tube so if its getting through that screw it and my corals are actully doing alot better and alot more full.

elephen · 01/31/2006, 10:55 AM

Good to hear. Just keep up your scheduled maintenance (water changes, etc) and you will be fine.

obybobie · 01/31/2006, 10:57 AM

sounds cool

srfndoc · 01/31/2006, 03:42 PM

Hey J,

Can you post a pic of your phosban reactor with both media in it. I was thinking of doing the same thing. Also, what pump are you using for the reactor?

Thanks

Quote:

Originally posted by J_Geisinger000
Im using a phosban reactor with activated carbon
my reactor is about half full for my 90 gallon

it does remove trace elements but you get those back by doing water changes and additives

the pros of running carbon out weigh the cons in my opinion
plus the carbon makes for nicer looking water and tank display

obybobie · 01/31/2006, 05:03 PM

im using a rio 180 ummm ill try to get pics soon

J_Geisinger000 · 01/31/2006, 07:19 PM

I have 2 seperate reactors one for phosban and one for carbon I ll get you a pic tonight

J_Geisinger000 · 01/31/2006, 07:42 PM

here are my pics

obybobie · 01/31/2006, 09:22 PM

lol looks exactly like mine wheres your micron socks to catch the dust though?

srfndoc · 01/31/2006, 09:32 PM

I'm wondering if you could use both carbon and phosban in one reactor (assuming they are both in micron bags).

obybobie · 02/01/2006, 08:48 AM

ummm read some reveiw here on reef central does not work that well together, clumps i hear, and im not willing to try so i just have 2, there so cheap anyways who cares.

J_Geisinger000 · 02/01/2006, 05:39 PM

I dont have mine running into a bag I have the phosban draining into a sponge in the baffles

obybobie · 02/01/2006, 09:32 PM

cool

corals b 4 bills · 02/01/2006, 11:49 PM

The pump I'm using is a minijet 404, works fine but next time I will buy the 606, needs a little more flow.

obybobie · 02/03/2006, 08:22 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

01/31/2006, 09:46 AM	#1
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	Carbon Reactor Considerations for use: Reef Carbon is also soft (this is due to pore size and makeup) and could release dust into the system if mechanically stirred too rapidly. Do not place where water will drop a large distance directly onto the product or churn it violently. Because Reef Carbon is so active, you can use considerably less than with other carbons (about 1/4 lb. or 1 cupful per 100 gallons of tank capacity, you may need more or less depending on how dirty the tank is). Reef Carbon will have done its job, so dose the tank with Kent Marine Essential Elements, Discus Essential, Freshwater Essential, or A F Cichlid Rift Lake Trace Elements as appropriate for your type of system to restore trace elements removed by any carbon. CAUTION: Recent products introduced by other manufacturers that contain strong enzymes may dissolve the binder that holds Reef Carbon together. If this happens the carbon can come apart and cause an ugly mess in your tank. Because of this, DO NOT USE ENZYME PRODUCTS WITH Reef Carbon! Simply remove the carbon, use the product, then replace the carbon several days later. ARIGHTY THATS PRETTY MUCH THE DIRECTIONS I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IN THE PHOSBAN REACTOR FULL OF KENTMARINE CARBON WITH A RIO 180, IS THIS TOO MUCH CARBON?, I JUST TURNED OFF MY PUMP TO THE REACTOR CAUSE I READ THE DIRECTIONS SO I WAS AFRAID THAT I WAS REMOVING TRACE ELEMENTS, O YA AND MY SKIMMER STOP SKIMMING, MAY BE A INDICATION THAT IT REMOVED ALOT OF ORGANICS I GUESS.

02/01/2006, 11:49 PM	#18
corals b 4 bills Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Francisco Bay Area (Belmont). Posts: 2,381	The pump I'm using is a minijet 404, works fine but next time I will buy the 606, needs a little more flow. __________________ Reefkeeper - (ref-ke-per) n: Individual obsessed with placing disturbing amounts of electricity and seawater in close proximity for the purpose of maintaining live coral reef organisms. Current Tank Info: 29 gallon Bio Cube, HQI 150 watt Nanotuner~Vortech MP10W ES~Arctica Chiller~AC II~Tunze Osmolator ATO~ Tunze 9002 skimmer W/In Tank Cup~ Korallin Reactor W/PH Monitor~ Korallin Denitrator~APC Back-up~Phosban/Carbon Reactor.

01/31/2006, 10:13 AM	#2
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	Did you flush the media before you added it to your tank?

01/31/2006, 10:17 AM	#3
J_Geisinger000 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United States P.A. Posts: 748	Im using a phosban reactor with activated carbon my reactor is about half full for my 90 gallon it does remove trace elements but you get those back by doing water changes and additives the pros of running carbon out weigh the cons in my opinion plus the carbon makes for nicer looking water and tank display

01/31/2006, 10:36 AM	#4
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	yes i did flush the media

01/31/2006, 10:37 AM	#5
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	Sometimes when you add carbon to a system that has been without it for a while you can put things in 'shock' since carbon will quickly absorb impurities. Also could be the carbon dust got back into the sump from not being flushed out prior (as I mentioned above) and that can cause some odd stuff in the system -- e.g. causing your skimmate production to temporarely stop.

01/31/2006, 10:44 AM	#6
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	welp i fushed the medium and i have a 250 micron bag at the end of the reactor tube so if its getting through that screw it and my corals are actully doing alot better and alot more full.

01/31/2006, 10:55 AM	#7
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	Good to hear. Just keep up your scheduled maintenance (water changes, etc) and you will be fine.

01/31/2006, 10:57 AM	#8
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	sounds cool

01/31/2006, 05:03 PM	#10
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	im using a rio 180 ummm ill try to get pics soon

01/31/2006, 07:19 PM	#11
J_Geisinger000 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United States P.A. Posts: 748	I have 2 seperate reactors one for phosban and one for carbon I ll get you a pic tonight

01/31/2006, 07:42 PM	#12
J_Geisinger000 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United States P.A. Posts: 748	here are my pics

01/31/2006, 09:22 PM	#13
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	lol looks exactly like mine wheres your micron socks to catch the dust though?

01/31/2006, 09:32 PM	#14
srfndoc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 551	I'm wondering if you could use both carbon and phosban in one reactor (assuming they are both in micron bags).

02/01/2006, 08:48 AM	#15
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	ummm read some reveiw here on reef central does not work that well together, clumps i hear, and im not willing to try so i just have 2, there so cheap anyways who cares.

02/01/2006, 05:39 PM	#16
J_Geisinger000 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United States P.A. Posts: 748	I dont have mine running into a bag I have the phosban draining into a sponge in the baffles

02/01/2006, 09:32 PM	#17
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	cool

02/03/2006, 08:22 AM	#19
obybobie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: corona ca Posts: 205	hmmmmmmmmmmmm