Majano - List animals that eat these

bronco7777 · 02/08/2006, 12:22 PM

Okay,

I know that Joe's Juice is pretty good at zapping majano anenomes. I also know that some butterfly fish will eat them like popcorn.

But my question is this. Are there any invertebrates that I can place in a reef that will eat majano naturally.
For example, I've heard peppermint shrimp will peck away at small aptaisia.
Well, what about majano? Surely there has to be natural predators to this annoying little oragnism

Any suggestions greatly welcomed.

bronco7777 · 02/08/2006, 05:18 PM

Bump.

Anyone with some info on this?

marinelife · 02/08/2006, 05:40 PM

Bannerfish

Sports Girl · 02/08/2006, 05:41 PM

Bronco-

I posted a thread a few weeks ago on majanos and all I got was people telling me to use joe's juice; no known live predator. Someone suggested a bicolor angel, but those are not always reef safe and are only 50/50 on eating them. A LFS employee told me to try lemon juice but I'm wondering if the acidity will screw with pH/water parameters...? (Plus I have a lot of them and would use a lot of juice...) Just wanted to let you know. Maybe someone with different experience will post some new helpful info.

marinelife · 02/08/2006, 05:46 PM

my 120 was 100% full and a few bannerfish ate them all in a few weeks

bronco7777 · 02/08/2006, 05:48 PM

marinelife,

But I don't believe bannerfish are reef safe???

marinelife · 02/08/2006, 05:51 PM

if you get the right ones, mine never bother anything other than those pain in the butts

bronco7777 · 02/08/2006, 05:55 PM

I'm not very familiar with them since I'm dedicated towards wrasses. It seems like there are a few too choose from:

Heniochus diphreutes
Heniochus acuminatus
Heniochus chrysostomus
Heniochus singularis

What would you say is the right one to choose?

marinelife · 02/08/2006, 06:01 PM

Heniochus diphreutes if I remember right

bronco7777 · 02/08/2006, 06:09 PM

thank you marinelife.

Anyone else out there?

Anything in the area of invertebrates???

marinelife · 02/08/2006, 06:11 PM

Pacific Cleaner Shrimp most say do but I never got them to do anything, I guess it is all in where the shrimp came from

Freed · 02/08/2006, 06:13 PM

Can you post a pic or two of the correct bannerfish to get? Pics of the others to avoid as well. Thanks.

Kahuna Tuna · 02/08/2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Heniochus diphreutes if I remember right

Yep, thats the reef safe one. The problem is telling them from the Heniochus acuminatus which look almost identical. Vivid sells both species, take a look at the pics.

http://www.vividaquariums.com/10Brow...AButterflyfish

The most reliable way to tell them apart is the mouth, the diphreutes has a much shorter "beak" and a more rounded profile to the head. HTH

aggie03 · 02/08/2006, 08:01 PM

I had about the worst infestation possible and got two peppermint shrimp now those guys are 100% gone

marinelife · 02/08/2006, 09:30 PM

I meant pepperments not cleaner shrimp

brad23 · 02/08/2006, 10:02 PM

My peppermint will not touch them.

chucksta1 · 02/09/2006, 03:20 AM

Sometime my mind wanders and stray thoughts enter and I entertain them. It seems the problem is to kill something without killing anything around them. How far does voltage spread in water if the negative and positive are really close, like say, the width of a mojano apart? Think capacitive discharge (bug zapper) it works on unwanted hair, how far would the "kill zone " extend? What about really hot water delivered in an insulated tube? The flow wouln't have to be much, and the heat would dissapate really fast? What about light? You know that thing the dentist sticks in your mouth to make a ceramic filling harden? is there a light spectrum they can't stand? Is a mojano really that bullet proof? There's got to be an easier way.

huladaman · 02/09/2006, 05:35 AM

I dont know if I'd try that bug zapper idea..... you might get permanently curly hair!! What about trying to use suction to remiove them. Take a big syringe and if you suck slow enough hopefully it will suck them out by the foot? I dont know but I started out with about 5 of them and slowly but surely they are spreading.

bllfish · 02/09/2006, 06:02 AM

I have peppermint shrimp and they don't touch them. Got rid of mine by making a Kalk past and covering them.

Freed · 02/15/2006, 08:26 AM

Marinelife, did you order your Heniochus diphreutes on line or did you get them in a LFS? Thanks.

Pandora · 02/15/2006, 08:58 AM

My peppermints also don't touch them, I think they only get rid of very small anemones (incl. aiptasia too, they don't do a good job on large ones). I only had 2 majano, and I got them easily with kalk injection. Do you have that many that you can't get them by hand? They don't spread nearly as fast as aiptasia.

izmullives · 02/15/2006, 01:52 PM

Berghia nudibranchs eat any pest anenomes but peppermint shrimp eat them

www.berghia.net

bronco7777 · 02/16/2006, 11:55 AM

izmullives,

Well it seems like these nudi's can do a job on aptasia but what about majano? I didn't see any reference that mentioned how they do with these.

Besides are nudi's dangerous to have in a system? If they die they can poision your water much like sea cucumbers????

BodiBuilt · 02/16/2006, 04:37 PM

I recently had to help a buddy move his 135g-reef tank.In the process,we transported all his live rock, submerged under tank water, in large (aprox.42g)plastic tubs with lids from kmart. It was a long-sucky process that took several hours to complete. While transporting the L.R. back from transport containers to tank again, I noticed a lot of majanos had released themselves from the rocks!(I bagged 26 of them, and gave them to an eager newbie...is that wrong?)After the move, he has only found{2}left in his display!

Psyire · 02/16/2006, 05:31 PM

"gave them to an eager newbie"

LOL - There has to be some sort of Karma at work here...

02/08/2006, 12:22 PM	#1
bronco7777 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 775	Majano - List animals that eat these Okay, I know that Joe's Juice is pretty good at zapping majano anenomes. I also know that some butterfly fish will eat them like popcorn. But my question is this. Are there any invertebrates that I can place in a reef that will eat majano naturally. For example, I've heard peppermint shrimp will peck away at small aptaisia. Well, what about majano? Surely there has to be natural predators to this annoying little oragnism Any suggestions greatly welcomed.

02/08/2006, 05:40 PM	#3
marinelife Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,590	Bannerfish __________________ I'm a SaltGeek are You? All LED since 2010. Current Tank Info: 375 Gallon Reef with siporax, all LED lighting, and Red Dragon 3 and Abyzz A200 on 2 closed loops.

02/08/2006, 05:46 PM	#5
marinelife Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,590	my 120 was 100% full and a few bannerfish ate them all in a few weeks __________________ I'm a SaltGeek are You? All LED since 2010. Current Tank Info: 375 Gallon Reef with siporax, all LED lighting, and Red Dragon 3 and Abyzz A200 on 2 closed loops.

02/08/2006, 05:51 PM	#7
marinelife Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,590	if you get the right ones, mine never bother anything other than those pain in the butts __________________ I'm a SaltGeek are You? All LED since 2010. Current Tank Info: 375 Gallon Reef with siporax, all LED lighting, and Red Dragon 3 and Abyzz A200 on 2 closed loops.

02/08/2006, 06:01 PM	#9
marinelife Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,590	Heniochus diphreutes if I remember right __________________ I'm a SaltGeek are You? All LED since 2010. Current Tank Info: 375 Gallon Reef with siporax, all LED lighting, and Red Dragon 3 and Abyzz A200 on 2 closed loops.

02/08/2006, 05:18 PM	#2
bronco7777 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 775	Bump. Anyone with some info on this?

02/08/2006, 05:41 PM	#4
Sports Girl Moved On Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Turlock, Ca. Posts: 369	Bronco- I posted a thread a few weeks ago on majanos and all I got was people telling me to use joe's juice; no known live predator. Someone suggested a bicolor angel, but those are not always reef safe and are only 50/50 on eating them. A LFS employee told me to try lemon juice but I'm wondering if the acidity will screw with pH/water parameters...? (Plus I have a lot of them and would use a lot of juice...) Just wanted to let you know. Maybe someone with different experience will post some new helpful info.

02/08/2006, 05:48 PM	#6
bronco7777 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 775	marinelife, But I don't believe bannerfish are reef safe???

02/08/2006, 05:55 PM	#8
bronco7777 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 775	I'm not very familiar with them since I'm dedicated towards wrasses. It seems like there are a few too choose from: Heniochus diphreutes Heniochus acuminatus Heniochus chrysostomus Heniochus singularis What would you say is the right one to choose?

02/08/2006, 06:09 PM	#10
bronco7777 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 775	thank you marinelife. Anyone else out there? Anything in the area of invertebrates???

02/08/2006, 06:11 PM	#11
marinelife Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,590	Pacific Cleaner Shrimp most say do but I never got them to do anything, I guess it is all in where the shrimp came from __________________ I'm a SaltGeek are You? All LED since 2010. Current Tank Info: 375 Gallon Reef with siporax, all LED lighting, and Red Dragon 3 and Abyzz A200 on 2 closed loops.

02/08/2006, 06:13 PM	#12
Freed It's what it's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 41° 2' 45" N 85° 8' 43" W Posts: 7,579	Can you post a pic or two of the correct bannerfish to get? Pics of the others to avoid as well. Thanks. __________________ Freed Current Tank Info: 180gal(1120 watts of MH/VHO light), 60gal "sump", Deltec 601 calcium reactor, Euro Reef CS8-3+ skimmer, 20 gallon QT

02/08/2006, 08:01 PM	#14
aggie03 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bay City, Tx Posts: 26	I had about the worst infestation possible and got two peppermint shrimp now those guys are 100% gone __________________ I will cut the horns off of all the wicked! Current Tank Info: 29gal glass, 40lbs live sand, 31 lbs live rock 250w MH ballast w/ 20K EVC Tech Bulb 1 Clownfish named Clyde, Colt Coral, Candy Coral, Brain Coral, Hammer Coral and a Bunch of Polyps Also a 10gallon in the works with a AC110 HOB fuge

02/08/2006, 09:30 PM	#15
marinelife Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,590	I meant pepperments not cleaner shrimp __________________ I'm a SaltGeek are You? All LED since 2010. Current Tank Info: 375 Gallon Reef with siporax, all LED lighting, and Red Dragon 3 and Abyzz A200 on 2 closed loops.

02/08/2006, 10:02 PM	#16
brad23 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bloomington IL Posts: 2,959	My peppermint will not touch them. __________________ Ye old English Current Tank Info: 75g reef

02/09/2006, 03:20 AM	#17
chucksta1 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mississauga ont. Posts: 490	Sometime my mind wanders and stray thoughts enter and I entertain them. It seems the problem is to kill something without killing anything around them. How far does voltage spread in water if the negative and positive are really close, like say, the width of a mojano apart? Think capacitive discharge (bug zapper) it works on unwanted hair, how far would the "kill zone " extend? What about really hot water delivered in an insulated tube? The flow wouln't have to be much, and the heat would dissapate really fast? What about light? You know that thing the dentist sticks in your mouth to make a ceramic filling harden? is there a light spectrum they can't stand? Is a mojano really that bullet proof? There's got to be an easier way.

02/09/2006, 05:35 AM	#18
huladaman Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincy, Oh Posts: 81	maybe.... I dont know if I'd try that bug zapper idea..... you might get permanently curly hair!! What about trying to use suction to remiove them. Take a big syringe and if you suck slow enough hopefully it will suck them out by the foot? I dont know but I started out with about 5 of them and slowly but surely they are spreading.

02/09/2006, 06:02 AM	#19
bllfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,818	I have peppermint shrimp and they don't touch them. Got rid of mine by making a Kalk past and covering them. __________________ "I fish by myself because lots of people don't like me, and the ones that do like me, well, I don't want them to know my spots." ><)))))*>--- Current Tank Info: 72 bow, 36" stand, 4 54W T5, vantec stealth fans, eheim 1260, mj 1200 & 2 Koralia #1 to WaveMaster Pro, CPR 24" Aquafuge HOB & 7100K PC, JBJ Arctica chiller, LiterMeter III

02/15/2006, 08:26 AM	#20
Freed It's what it's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 41° 2' 45" N 85° 8' 43" W Posts: 7,579	Marinelife, did you order your Heniochus diphreutes on line or did you get them in a LFS? Thanks. __________________ Freed Current Tank Info: 180gal(1120 watts of MH/VHO light), 60gal "sump", Deltec 601 calcium reactor, Euro Reef CS8-3+ skimmer, 20 gallon QT

02/15/2006, 08:58 AM	#21
Pandora Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland near DC Posts: 1,706	My peppermints also don't touch them, I think they only get rid of very small anemones (incl. aiptasia too, they don't do a good job on large ones). I only had 2 majano, and I got them easily with kalk injection. Do you have that many that you can't get them by hand? They don't spread nearly as fast as aiptasia. __________________ Where are we going... And why am I in this handbasket? Current Tank Info: 75gal reef tank, 30 gal octopus tank, Other: 75gal planted Amazon tank

02/15/2006, 01:52 PM	#22
izmullives Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MT. HOLLY NJ Posts: 147	Berghia nudibranchs eat any pest anenomes but peppermint shrimp eat them www.berghia.net

02/16/2006, 11:55 AM	#23
bronco7777 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 775	izmullives, Well it seems like these nudi's can do a job on aptasia but what about majano? I didn't see any reference that mentioned how they do with these. Besides are nudi's dangerous to have in a system? If they die they can poision your water much like sea cucumbers????

02/16/2006, 04:37 PM	#24
BodiBuilt Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,326	I recently had to help a buddy move his 135g-reef tank.In the process,we transported all his live rock, submerged under tank water, in large (aprox.42g)plastic tubs with lids from kmart. It was a long-sucky process that took several hours to complete. While transporting the L.R. back from transport containers to tank again, I noticed a lot of majanos had released themselves from the rocks!(I bagged 26 of them, and gave them to an eager newbie...is that wrong?)After the move, he has only found{2}left in his display! __________________ Tell Them Dave Was Here Current Tank Info: 280g In Progress

02/16/2006, 05:31 PM	#25
Psyire Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,870	"gave them to an eager newbie" LOL - There has to be some sort of Karma at work here...